The Official Flash Thread

[luca_frontino]

My idea is to make Flash able to slip to different time speeds instead of simply running faster than light (we wouldn't even been able to see him on screen, ha!).
I remember an episode of Futurama where Philip, after having drank a lot of coffee, gets the ability to move in a time slowed world and adjusting things in a relaxed manner, by just walking around.
That would give the freedom to not use concepts like The Speed Force, clearly stolen from Star Wars, to explain how does he get the energy to run like a photon.
Also, in The Matrix Reloaded, we saw how much destruction can bring flying at moderate speed just a little above a city street; imagine running at light speed on the ground.
Seeing Flash moving in a slowed world would have a more poetic feel and could match a narrative coming from his thoughts.
It would also feel different from the crappy TV series.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Its Flash he does not need to be made beleivable.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

No he does. I would love to see Flash run thorough a time slowed world with soft piano music playing as people float through the air and explosions go off in slow motion....

Cinematic porn...

 

[Webhead2006]

well yea in slow mo it would look cool but i wouldnt want the whole film to see his speed done like that, I would like to see the speed and quickness in him and see him zip around.

 

[luca_frontino]

Yes, of course. Seeing him just as a blur every now and then is a must, but I want it to be that he moves at a different time speed and not fast for real.
How could you explain the friction, the air concussion that would destroy everything in his racing path if he moved really faster than light?
And how could you explain his brain been able to see and react at that velocity?
I say "no" to Speed Force and "yes" to Time Speed.
And now that I think about it, Kingdom Come Flash is very suited for my idea.

 

[Webhead2006]

well doesnt he via the speed force have some aura deal that protects himself?

 

[Changeling]

I love luca's idea. Sounds believable and awesome visually. But we'd have to see ihm zip around a lot more than the slowed world idea.

 

[Flash Facts]

How is "Time Bending" any more believable than The Speed Force?

Time bending would still be superspeed and have the same effect as it. Speed is relative. While time might be slowed relative the Flash's perception of the world, the world itself would still perceive the Flash as moving at superspeed.

And before Johns made his horrible retcon to the Speed Force it actually was believable. The Speed Force had its roots in science which was much more suited to the Flash universe than it is now. Quantum theory, String theory, and the Higgs field could all be used to explain the Speed Force from my understanding.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Yes, of course. Seeing him just as a blur every now and then is a must, but I want it to be that he moves at a different time speed and not fast for real.
How could you explain the friction, the air concussion that would destroy everything in his racing path if he moved really faster than light?
And how could you explain his brain been able to see and react at that velocity?
I say "no" to Speed Force and "yes" to Time Speed.
And now that I think about it, Kingdom Come Flash is very suited for my idea.

The speed force accelerated his perception and his mind, it's already explained, when he's in speed mode everything is on the same page.

 

[luca_frontino]

What I'm trying to say is that a Flash moving at a different time speed is different from a Flash moving faster than light.
My Flash doesn't create friction and air concussion because he's slips into some sort of inter or extra-dimensional state.
He is capable to accelerate his subjective time and interact with the world like in normal speed, so (example) he can catch a falling glass of water without burning the air and fusing the glass itself because he's not moving at superspeed, but in a time slowed environment.
He doesn't create vortex behind him when running because he's not using superspeed, he's moving at a different time clock.
He uses more a Time Force than Speed Force, but it's not really like that: just to make it more understandable to you Flashfans.
To me it's more acceptable my concept than some sort of unnatural force ripped off from Star Wars.

 

[Bren]

I think physics-based challenges should exist in the film to a certain extent. The fact that he has to use his brain as well as speed to solve and save. There's a bomb he can stop, but if he runs there fast he kills pedestrians along the way - Hmmm, He has to THINK!

In addition to that, I then think that even semi-mundane criminals can pose a threat to him because he has to hold back.

I think there would be some fantastic shots (funny and scary/almost tragic) of him learning what he can and can't do. I certainly agree though, that to his perpective, everything else is in slowmo, but that might be considered a rip-off of Smallville?

 

[solidsnake86]

I think thats one of the biggest challenges with the film. How to make the speed effect look good. I would really like if there was lighting around him when he runs, not that it does anything, it just looks good.

 

[Young Superman]

Scott Porter for Barry Allen / The Flash

 

[Octoberist]

again, why Scott Porter? People bring him up all the friggin' time.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well he is a popular young fresh actor, loves the comics genre and from some posters here say dc does want to get him attached to one of these films one of these days. I dont know his work much myself, only seen him in pics and a few clips online. But he seems to be a very nice guy, and someone who could do a barry allen, or some other character to justice.

 

[terry78]

I'm still on Adam Brody for this. Blonde his hair up, bam.

 

[Octoberist]

I wouldn't mind Brody either, to be honest.

 

[Webhead2006]

back during the whole jl mortal mess yea brody, and common i wasnt to against them being flash and green lantern, it was more batman being to young and far to big compared to their superman pick. And visually i would have liked gale for ww she had the look, but she didnt have the acting credits to back up this important character. As for the others i didnt know who the guy was for MM or his work, and i didnt think the painter guy from heroes was the best pick for aquaman, though i did like him in heroes and seen him appear in that merlin show from bbc and aired this past summer on nbc.

 

[Octoberist]

I followed all of that mess, and how iesb.net was campaigning it so much on their site (more hits).

If it were to be made back in 2007, it would have been a writer's strike movie, so I think it would have been a massive failure.

 

[Webhead2006]

Oh yea i am sure it probably would have been a big mess too, i still dont know what the true story of the film was going to be, their was that one rumor of a very good story, then their was the rumors of it being more superfriends then jl like rumor, etc..... It was such a mess. Though with the non status of superman, flash, aquaman, etc.... it would have been nice to finally get those guys on the big screen. But if it failed we would have to be waiting like another decade or so before they would likely try those characters again.

 

[Octoberist]

yeah.

BTW, you guys should check this Flash comic out..it's a part of DC's Wedesday Comics.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/07/wedc1-13-copy.jpg

I think it gives off a great idea on how Barry's humor should be...

 

[Webhead2006]

As of right now the only thing i would ever like to see come out of the jlm mess is those test costumes we heard most of the actors were actually getting fitted for so we could have at least viusally seen what direction on looks they were going to go with.

 

[SuperAl]

Chris Evans is perfect for the flash. Since fantastic four is gettin rebooted, he wont be playing the torch anymore. The characters basically got the same sense of humor.

 

[TheWatcher]

I would rather have him running

 

[Octoberist]

Okay, some of you guys have heard how I'm liking a dude like Edgar Wright for The Flash right?

I doubt he'll do it since his plate is fairly full, unless he's willing to drop everything else for a project like The Flash (which does happen in Hollywood all the time).

How about Greg Motolla (Superbad, Adventureland) for The Flash? I think he can handle drama/comedy well, and visually, he's great. All he needs is to work on action, but I'm thinking he might be a natural.