The Official Flash Thread

Your Preferred Flash For This Movie (Regardless who it ends up being officially)

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen


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My ideas for The Flash movie:

For starters, let's go with the basics: The Flash is all about speed. Everything about him literally is about speed and its related forms. His whole life is about speed. That's the premise of the film, and in the age of technology where everyone wants everything instantly, instant communications, etc, speed is an incredibly relevant concept. Barry Allen is slow, The Flash is fast. That is the movie.

Now I know that people like Wally West because he took over for Barry (and acts like a less jerky Anakin Skywalker) and I don't mean any disrespect to the character because frankly, despite my Barry fandom, I do like Wally too, but The Flash was never supposed to be about a guy trying to fill a dead guy's boots (which is a cool concept, it works for Wally and Bucky and will probably work for Robin, but honestly, what else were they gonna do with those characters?). It was always supposed to be about speed. That's what the character is supposed to be about, that's what the book was always supposed to be about (which is a fact I think people have forgotten or are just completely oblivious to with Wally and the legacy aspect so prevelant in the last few years), and that's what the movie needs to be about: the fastest man alive. And that man is Barry Allen.

Barry Allen is not only the only MAJOR DC character to have his powers because of an accident, but is the only one who has powers because of his one, major flaw. Hal Jordan has the Green Lantern ring because he is brave and honest, because of his good character traits. Barry Allen has super speed because he is lazy/late for everything, and by extension uncommited or easily distracted (a classic attribute of the absent minded professor syndrome), he has powers because of his character flaws.

The whole reason he is a forensics scientist is because he wants to help people, but he also wants to take his time at it - and chemistry takes time to get right. Had he not been late for work/everything else, he would not have had to work late in the forensics lab to make up for lost time the night he got hit by lightning/electrically charged chemicals (at age 24) and gained superspeed. Barry Allen is essentially fast because he is slow. He goes from being the guy everyone is waiting on to the guy waiting for everyone else. In a complex sense, this is like how Jon Osterman became Doctor Manhattan in Watchmen, because he was a watchmaker and could reassemble things. That is what's so great about Barry Allen, it's not his accomplishments, it's not his emoluments, it's not the fact that he was The Flash longer than anyone else, it's not that he's the iconic Flash that makes him the greatest Flash, Barry Allen is the definitive Flash because he is the only one who is all about speed. He is fast because he is slow. He's all about speed.


Characterization:

Barry Allen is 24 years old and has had his job as a forensics scientist for the Central City Police Department for about a year. He is easy-going, optimistic and humorous, intelligent and inventive, and a bit of a law and order type, but he is also lazy and late for everything; he's slow, this is his major character flaw. Been that way all his life. Barry is easily distracted or uncommitted. He has a super hot reporter girlfriend he met in college. She really likes him, and he her, but she is career driven and doesn't like to be kept waiting, which is unfortunate considering who her boyfriend is.

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Structure/Story (beginning):

I'd say start the beginning of the film with the actual scene of the accident, with a tall, young, strawberry blonde haired, blue eyed man that we could otherwise care less about getting hit by lightning alone in his lab, we know nothing about him. (This is how someone who doesn't care about characterization may have done The Flash film for all we know) But right before the lightning strikes the man, a centimeter away from his chest, everything, the lightning, the broken glass falling through the air, it all stops. A voice begins to speak. It's Barry Allen (but we don't know that yet). He says something to the effect of "You know that feeling you get right before something happens, usually life threatening, that will change your life forever? That feeling where your whole life flashes before your eyes? That's what happened to me on the night of the accident. The night my life changed forever". He could say something like that, and then the camera swirls around his body, still paused in mid air with everything else, and travels toward the lightning almost touching his chest, electrified chemicals swirling around it, and the camera climbs up the lightning and out the window, into the night sky, all the way into the storm cloud from which it came and then the credits could begin here and go on for about 2 minutes.

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After the credits sequence, we could see a child reading comics in bed. We find that it is Barry when his mother calls into him, asking him to shut off the lights and stop reading comics so he can get to sleep so he can get to school early tomorrow.

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We also find that this is Barry because he is narrating. They could cut to a series of scenes, one showing Barry in school, alone, because he was late again, where he finishes his papers last and gives them to the teacher where he says something like his grades are better than most everyone's in the class, but he's just so slow. Also cut to child running on track, maybe pan up, we are meant to think it is Barry Allen, but it isn't, the camera then drags all the way to the back of the track revealing Barry Allen, the last to cross the finish line. They could do stuff like that, to establish that he's late for everything, even that early in his life.

Also show him in college, getting his degree in forensics and meeting Iris. He is late for his first date with her because he's lazy, he gets distracted doing something else and keeps putting off getting ready to leave. A series of scenes could be done to convey that he's late for nearly every date he's had with her, every seminar in college, etc.

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He eventually gets his job at CCPD, where he is also late, despite making every effort to be on time, for his first day on the job. He is slow and pragmatic and a bit of a doormat for the other cops there, but he is eventually also the best forensic scientist CCPD has, he is dependable and has solved cases for every cop that's laughed at him and they respect him for that.

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Because Barry is always late to see Iris and sometimes can't see her at all, he just shows up at her job, and although she loves to see him, this is during her work hours, and it pisses her off because she can't be with him everytime there's a commercial break or see him once shooting has wrapped for the tv station. By the time we get to the few weeks before the accident, Barry's chronic lateness has escalated into this; he has been late so many times to his work that he may lose his job, "best" at it or not, because he's been late so many times, and because he's been late so many times, he has to work late in order to make up for all the lost time, and because of this, he has to keep canceling dates with Iris, which pisses her off because he is not only late whenever he comes to see her but now it's like he doesn't want to see her at all. She sets up another date with him, one last time, and she wants him to be on time. She's thinking that maybe they should take some time away from each other for a little while or until he gets a better handle on his life at least. But Barry cancels this because of work, if he doesn't make up for everything by that night/next day he loses his job, he hopes she understands that, because the police depo doesn't want him to lose his job either. This is the night of the accident that gave him superspeed. We are now taken to the same scene we were at at the beginning of the film, only now we care about the man being hit by lightning and know his background and his wants and life.

Anyway, this ^ is just an idea for what they could maybe do with it to get people interested.

In short, begin with the scene of the accident, then after the credits (if they have them) show his life up until that point in a flashback - which we come to find out he's having as he's about to be hit by the lightning. He is narrating ala Forrest Gump, and the whole flahback sequence of his life up until that point should take about 20 minutes of screen time.


Now here's a couple other random ideas I'd like to point out that might work:

Barry is narrating into his own, personal log/journal or recording, which he keeps as he does tests on himself after he gets his super speed, but we don't know that until later in the film when we see it with him for the first time. I always imagined that Barry Allen, a man of science, would probably keep some sort of private record for himself documenting his super speed. He certainly did enough tests on himself in the comics like when he tested himeslf to make sure that he and Iris could have kids. This could also be played up in the sequel, where in the far future Eobard Thawne has this device which is now/or was a relic in a museum dedicated to The Flash. He listens (or watches) Barry recount the accident that gave him super speed and tries to recreate it, and after several tests, he is successful.

The costume ring is something Barry came up with while in college, a sort of unstable material that expands with contact with air, like an inflatable raft. He could probably make a lot of money if he sold this but he doesn't and instead cans the idea because he's just too lazy to market it. Also, the ring, even when he is Flash, has no lightning logo on it like it's depicted in some versions. I always thought that was kinda stupid considering it might give away his identity.

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At some point in the film the "Ballad of Barry Allen" by Jim's Big Ego should be played. Barry is the only Flash to have song written about him. :D

The film is a combination of Iron Man, Back to the Future, and CSI. Iron Man for the superheroics, Back to the Future for the time travel, and CSI for Barry's forensics job.

The Flash needs to do more than just run fast. They need to establish that he has complete control over his molecular structure and can literally do anything fast. Think fast, talk fast, read (and retain what he reads) fast, see fast, he has complete control over his body mass when he runs, etc. He has "speed mode" which he has to kick into when he uses his super speed - this way everything isn't moving super slow to him all the time, only when he wants it to. At first it could be done as a sort of accident.

At first Barry has no intentions of being a superhero. He ends up wearing a suit super hero like stylized suit because (although not complete yet) one, he likes comic books. Always has. Having these powers is so cool to him, of course he's gonna dress up, he's like us - what would you do if you had superpowers? Two, his ordinary clothes, because they're loose fitting, burn and tear when he runs, they aren't exactly protected by the aura around his body that shield him from friction.

One day, Barry ends up stopping one random crime he notices, then another, and all this escalates and one thing needs to another, next thing he knows he's now got a complete costume and is listening to a police scanner and is somewhat of a hometown hero, a celebrity, the city seems to love him. Eventually he ends up giving Iris West the first tv interview with The Flash, but he blurs his face so she can't recognize him.

Also, when Flash speaks, his voice should sound like speed incarnate, sort of electrical and crackley, but we can still understand him, he also talks a little fast. Oh, talking fast - this is a bother to him sometimes, because while he can understand what he's saying, no one else can. He must remember this when he speaks.

The reason for the white circle on his chest is because his life feels complete. Having this speed just "feels right", which will be explained in later films as at the time of his "death" when he runs many hundreds of times faster than the speed of light and turns into a sort of energy when he stops the Anti Monitor, he becomes the lightning bolt/speed that hit himself.

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Also, The Flash never walks. He is always seen either running or standing still, never walking. Barry walks, The Flash does not.

There could be a scene in the movie where Barry runs to the track where he'd lose many a race as a child, now as Flash, back in Iowa, and before leaving, he runs the track faster than we can blink and chuckles to himself. If only he knew then what he does now.

Also, at some point in the film, probably one of the first times he turns into The Flash with the suit ejecting from the ring, he puts the suit on but before running off he stops and looks behind him and sees all his civillian clothes on the ground (which he picks up at super-speed).

Still working on the villain, but I want it to be Mirror Master. He can be done scary and can negate the Flash's abilities.

^ These are just some ideas of what they could do with The Flash film. They aren't perfect, and many of them probably need rethinking, but I hope you liked them and would love to hear your thoughts. I know it's a long post and thank anyone who read. :)
this was great idea and I would pay good money to see this movie.
 
The Flash intro, by way of the X-Men credits sequences.

LIGHTNING FLARES across the screen. Again. And SUDDENLY, we find ourselves SUCKED INSIDE one of the lightning bolts, and RACING through a brilliant void of PURE ENERGY. So this is what it's like to ride the lightning. We SPEED onward through the void.

MALE VOICE (V.O.)
There are those who ride the lightning...the speedsters, gifted individuals throughout time, a chain of neverending motion. Their legacy, one of speed and vigilance.

GHOSTLY FORMS coalesce in the void; former SPEEDSTERS. A blonde woman. A Native American. A cowboy. Persons from the past and the future. Dozens of cultures represented. Each MERGES back into the lightning storm as a new forms. Spectral forms of powerful energies.

(V.O.)
They live in the moments between each second. And for these speedsters, time itself...is relative. Every moment...an eternity.

We are moving faster now through the void, if that's even possible. And then, even FASTER. ENERGY BLURS around us as the end of the void swirls into a VORTEX, a tornado of electrical impulses and lightning. There's chaos here, but also a strange calm, like the center of a hurricane.

SUPER TITLE: THE FLASH

Lord I want a Flash movie like no other...

Interesting beginning. Didn't you make that Flash script on the Fanfiction part of the page a few years ago or was it some one else. I remember you made either a Green Lantern or a Flash script. what do you think of this as a flash poster
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Interesting beginning. Didn't you make that Flash script on the Fanfiction part of the page a few years ago or was it some one else. I remember you made either a Green Lantern or a Flash script. what do you think of this as a flash poster
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thats a great one, that was one of my choices too

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^^I really like this one too
 
I would so love for Jay Garrick to be Barry's childhood hero...
After the credits... we get the poignant scene where the two meet...
Basically Green Lantern (yes ... him and he... do in fact meet)
 
Interesting beginning. Didn't you make that Flash script on the Fanfiction part of the page a few years ago or was it some one else. I remember you made either a Green Lantern or a Flash script. what do you think of this as a flash poster.

You're thinking of my 2-day GREEN LANTERN script. I wrote a treatment and a partial FLASH script about a year and a half ago when the project was supposedly went into development hell. The main problem for Flash writers and even fans seems to be the story to use. Everyone knows what Flash should be, but people keep saying things like "The villain should be this, and there's no concrete plot.

In my version of THE FLASH...it opened with the credits sequence posted above. I love Barry Allen, but I love the legacy aspects even more.

I'm pretty sure what I came up with was about what David Goyer was shooting for on some level. It had all the important elements, the origin/discovery of powers stuff, Barry as a forensic chemist, his eating habits, the slow/fast stuff, The Speed Force, etc al. The Flash had already been operating for quite a while, had already fought the Rogues for years, etc. In the opening sequence, which was a bank robbery (pre-TDK days, mind you), The Flash stops bank robbers and ends up in a car chase with them. This introduces all the main players in various ways. Barry, Iris, Wally, Linda, the police and Tina McGee.

The majority of the script was about the impact being a superhero has on one's families and friends, because no superhero script had gone that route yet. It was very much about the burden of his particular kind of abilities on himself and others. There was "friction" between Barry and Iris, who were married, and settled. Jay Garrick was Barry's friend and mentor, and a slightly older version of Wally West then usual (college age) featured as the young man who idolized the Flash and his exploits, and wanted nothing more than to be a hero himself. Linda Park had her usual role, and a developing friendship/mentorship with Iris. Essentially, Iris tried to prep her for the relationship issues that come with duty, because Wally wanted to be a cop. This ended up important in the end.

The villain was Eobard Thawne, a misunderstand professor/scientist in a world that valued metahumans and physical power over intelligence and the spirit of discovery. The Flash Museum was huge, there was a massive Flash legacy throughout history. Thawne, a descendant of Barry Allen, was disgusted by society's approach to intellectualism in the wake of metahuman inspiration, and wanted to essentially sully The Flash's name, to prevent people from relying on The Flash and other speedsters so heavily. With the help of a version of Chronos, he recreated Barry Allen's accident and created a version of the Cosmic Treadmill and went back in time to undo The Flash's legacy. Basically he became a version of The Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom and framed The Flash, running him ragged until events climaxed with Thawne accidentally killing Iris, at which point, this became a revenge/justice story. Wally had an arc through all this, and ended up in an accident similar to Barry's, becoming a version of Kid Flash to help The Flash clear his name and track Eobard Thawne to the 25th Century. All the requisite set pieces, The Flash Museum was destroyed in two times, etc. The film ended with Thawne's time machine malfunctioning and creating an entropy rift, which threatened the fabric of space time. Barry sacrificed himself a la his death in the CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, but not before revealing that he was The Flash to Wally, and that "There will always be a Flash". Naturally, Wally took up the mantle at the end of the story, and would be the Flash in the second and third stories, which were to feature The Rogues and Grodd.
 
You're thinking of my 2-day GREEN LANTERN script. I wrote a treatment and a partial FLASH script about a year and a half ago when the project was supposedly went into development hell. The main problem for Flash writers and even fans seems to be the story to use. Everyone knows what Flash should be, but people keep saying things like "The villain should be this, and there's no concrete plot.

In my version of THE FLASH...it opened with the credits sequence posted above. I love Barry Allen, but I love the legacy aspects even more.

I'm pretty sure what I came up with was about what David Goyer was shooting for on some level. It had all the important elements, the origin/discovery of powers stuff, Barry as a forensic chemist, his eating habits, the slow/fast stuff, The Speed Force, etc al. The Flash had already been operating for quite a while, had already fought the Rogues for years, etc. In the opening sequence, which was a bank robbery (pre-TDK days, mind you), The Flash stops bank robbers and ends up in a car chase with them. This introduces all the main players in various ways. Barry, Iris, Wally, Linda, the police and Tina McGee.

The majority of the script was about the impact being a superhero has on one's families and friends, because no superhero script had gone that route yet. It was very much about the burden of his particular kind of abilities on himself and others. There was "friction" between Barry and Iris, who were married, and settled. Jay Garrick was Barry's friend and mentor, and a slightly older version of Wally West then usual (college age) featured as the young man who idolized the Flash and his exploits, and wanted nothing more than to be a hero himself. Linda Park had her usual role, and a developing friendship/mentorship with Iris. Essentially, Iris tried to prep her for the relationship issues that come with duty, because Wally wanted to be a cop. This ended up important in the end.

The villain was Eobard Thawne, a misunderstand professor/scientist in a world that valued metahumans and physical power over intelligence and the spirit of discovery. The Flash Museum was huge, there was a massive Flash legacy throughout history. Thawne, a descendant of Barry Allen, was disgusted by society's approach to intellectualism in the wake of metahuman inspiration, and wanted to essentially sully The Flash's name, to prevent people from relying on The Flash and other speedsters so heavily. With the help of a version of Chronos, he recreated Barry Allen's accident and created a version of the Cosmic Treadmill and went back in time to undo The Flash's legacy. Basically he became a version of The Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom and framed The Flash, running him ragged until events climaxed with Thawne accidentally killing Iris, at which point, this became a revenge/justice story. Wally had an arc through all this, and ended up in an accident similar to Barry's, becoming a version of Kid Flash to help The Flash clear his name and track Eobard Thawne to the 25th Century. All the requisite set pieces, The Flash Museum was destroyed in two times, etc. The film ended with Thawne's time machine malfunctioning and creating an entropy rift, which threatened the fabric of space time. Barry sacrificed himself a la his death in the CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, but not before revealing that he was The Flash to Wally, and that "There will always be a Flash". Naturally, Wally took up the mantle at the end of the story, and would be the Flash in the second and third stories, which were to feature The Rogues and Grodd.
that was a great idea tell me would there have been any reference to Bart Allen
 
Not yet. I wanted to use a time travel story, a regular story, and then another time travel story in the third film with Bart showing up.
 
So can someone tell me why they want Barry in the film, besides the Flash that he was the first Flash
 
10 motives why Barry is the best choice:

1°: He was the "first" Flash.
2°: His origin is simplier.
3°: He's got an attractive job for youngster (Forensic scientist), which could help the box office.
4°: He's the fastest Flash.
5°: He was the one who discovered the special tricks of supervelocity, like the intagibility and the invisibility.
6°: He's witty, yet serious, which is the perfect mix.
7°: His supporting cast is great.
8°: His Rogue Gallery is great.
9°: He can also provide some phisical humor, thanks to his cronical slowness.
10°: He's awesome.
 
So can someone tell me why they want Barry in the film, besides the Flash that he was the first Flash

funny enough is that...Barry being the MAIN Flash isn't official at all. I haven't read one thing from the producers/Warner Bros that indicates that Barry is the main star.
 
I really think WHY WB/DC is holding back on The Flash is BECAUSE of the BARRY ALLEN situation.

WB ultimately went with Hal Jordan (with fan support) because the character is back as the main Green Lantern and there was ENOUGH time for Hal to re-establish himself in DC Comics.

So..with the Green Lantern movie, Hal's been around since 2004/2005 already so there's enough arcs and stories in the past 4-5 years to establish his own movie in 2010.

Barry's barely back, so it would be too early to just cook a SCRIPT now. I think the producers/writers are talking to DC and Geoff Johns to see where they're taking the character (now and in the future).

So even though there's a script being written now for The Flash movie, I'm expecting a movie until maybe 2012-2013.
 
yeah maybe.

I also think...if they want to, they could kinda merge Barry Allen with the personality of Wally West. I really think that's what they will do.
 
I think the WB needs GL to go well to give them the confidence to move forward.

I do think Flash or Shazam will sneak up out of nowhere to become the next script.
 
i guess Green Lantern WILL be the testiment to WB and DC; if that becomes a hit, then Flash, Wonder Woman, and Shazam it is.
 
this was great idea and I would pay good money to see this movie.

Cool! Hey, thanks for reading, man! :D I'm so glad you liked that, and I'm also glad that somebody read it, lol.

I have other ideas I'll be posting sometime. There are some things I'd like to add, like some of the things in Flash: Rebirth, such as why Barry went into forensics.

Still working on the villain. I want it to be Mirror Master. Like I said, he can be very scary in the film. Flash is a Superman type character with Batman type villains, IMO.
 
MY IDEAS FOR THE FLASH 2



The second film would be all about meeting your heroes and fandom. I'd have Iris and Barry in a more steady relationship, gearing up for marriage later in the film. Early on I'd have Barry, doing a charity show like the original Flash of Two Worlds story, while performing a stunt he'd accidentally vibrate himself into another dimension - earth 2. There he meets his childhood comic book hero Jay Garrick, who is real and comes out of retirement because of Barry.



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Together they face some of Jay's old enemies and Barry learns how to use his dimension hopping ability and comes back to his own reality. This could be the first half hour of Flash 2.



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Meanwhile in the future, a mad scientist obsessed with The Flash (Eobard Thawne), specifically the Barry Allen Flash, recreates the accident that gave Barry his powers (he has the afformentioned "log" Barry kept on his abilities) and comes to the present to be The Flash. Barry meets him early on and is like "what the hell is this?". He tells him he needs to settle down and is puzzled as to why he has super speed and is dresed up like him. Thawne tells him he's his biggest fan and wants to be just like him.



Barry has a gut feeling that something is terribly wrong and senses the man is unstable when he says "I want to be you" and zips away to "fight crime". Barry doesn't know where he went. Barry goes to stop a bank robbery and Thawne shows up and helps him take out the robbers. Zoom is especially brutal to the criminals, even after they've surrendered. While Barry is a forensics cop and there are only two kinds of people to him - guilty or not guilty - Zoom's behavior is a little extreme. Barry tells Zoom to back off and let him handle things. Zoom then criticises Barry for being to soft on criminals, and tells him he will never stop and that he will be a better Flash than Barry. Everything goes downhill from there. Before Zoom zips away he calls The Flash "Barry", letting him know that he knows who he is. Barry's life basically goes to hell from here. Zoom wants Barry's life, he wants to be Barry Allen. Zoom not only is dressed as Flash, now committing crimes and extreme acts of brutality, he also frees the Rogues that Barry had locked up to reek havoc so he can defeat them himself later.



Zoom makes himeslf look like Barry Allen and replaces him on his wedding day after he sets a trap for Barry Allen and transports Barry to the future in a high tech prison he created. In the present, everyone hates The Flash. Barry's loved ones are endangered, his secret identity is useless against this foe, his other enemies are running amok, and he's locked in a space age prison desgined just for him somewhere centuries away from the day he's supposed to be marrying his college sweetheart, who is unsuspectingly marrying Zoom - all this because of his "biggest fan". Barry is aware of the darkside of fandom - obsession. Just when things couldn't get any worse, his childhood hero, Jay Garrick shows up and helps Barry escape from the prison and get back to the present. He somehow knows Barry is endanger and wants to help Barry like he helped Jay earlier in the film, the reasons for this and how he finds Barry I'll probably flesh out later.



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Jay and Barry get back in the present, Jay subdues the Rogues while Barry goes after Zoom, who is disguised as Barry right about to kiss the bride. Barry zips in and grabs Zoom and moves to beat the **** out of him far away. Zoom switches into his Flash suit (still Barry's suit) and before they continue, they have some dialogue. Barry tells Zoom that he will never, ever be him and with that something snaps in Zoom. What he can't have, he'll destroy. He draws lightning down from the sky/Speed Force, his costume is now the iconic Reverse Flash suit with the inverted Flash colors. Barry and Zoom fight, Zoom taunts Barry, telling him first he'll go after Iris, he'll "hurt her" and then kill her when he's done, and then he'll go after Barry's extended family, and then destroy Central City and everything else. The Flash name will go down in history cursed. Zoom is obviously out of his mind. All this really pisses off Barry, especially what he says about Iris, and they race around the world beating the crap out of each other.



Anyway, Jay eventually shows up and helps Barry, Zoom does something that distracts Barry like maybe something that will hurt civillians or Iris to get Barry to stop fighting him so he can take Jay. He and Jay fight, Jay bashes Zoom with his helmet, after Zoom makes some derogatory comment about how dumb Jay's helmet is. Zoom eventually breaks Jay's legs and is going to kill him, Barry is about to watch his hero die, Barry saves Jay and sends Zoom into the speed force. The two fight in the speed force, Zoom gets sucked into a vortex and Barry escapes.



Anyhooo, to wrap things up quickly, Barry helps Jay back to Earth 2, a Flash museum is made, honoring Barry and Jay, Flash has redeemed himself in the eyes of the people. Half the Rogues are locked up, half are still roaming, Barry has some cleaning up to do.


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Oh, and Barry and Iris set up another wedding date (I'll flesh all this out later sometime). Iris tells Barry that her nephew will be coming to visit, and that she's going to pick him up and drop him off with Barry for a few hours because she's got reporting to do - she tells Barry to try not to bore him. A short while later Barry is in his apartment, reflecting on everything that has just happened. Remembering meeting Jay, his childhood comic book hero (whom he had no idea existed in some other reality), who helped inspire him to become The Flash and thinking about Zoom, his greatest enemy to date and how he was obsessed with Barry. Just then, the doorbell rings. The doorbell rings again. "Coming" calls Barry. Barry then zips around his apartment cleaning everything up, changes his clothes, and prepares dinner. The doorbell rings again. Barry opens the door. It's Iris. "Even when you're where you're supposed to be you're late" she says, then she promptly introduces Barry to her nephew, Wally West (about ten). He's a major Flash fan and is wearing a Flash t-shirt. Iris tells the two to have fun and not to stay up too late and then leaves. Barry talks to Wally "So, this your first time in Central City, kiddo?" Wally says "yeah. I was hoping to see The Flash while I was out here, I'm a big fan". Barry smiles. He's just met his real biggest fan. End movie.

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EXCLUSIVE: Former ‘Flash’ Director Shawn Levy Explains Departure, Runs From Comic Book Movies

Published by Larry Carroll on Monday, April 13, 2009 at 6:13 pm.


If you’re a comic book fan, a movie fan, or pretty much anybody with a pulse, it was hard to not have an immediate opinion when the news broke that “Night at the Museum” filmmaker Shawn Levy had been handed the keys to “The Flash” movie at Warner Bros. Barely eight months later, he was just as quickly gone from the project.

What happened in-between? And why was Levy’s controversial involvement with the film every bit as speedy as the fastest man alive? For the answers, I went straight to the source.

“Let me tell you the full, exact story,” laughed Levy, whose “Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian” hits theaters May 22nd. “I forget when this was; it was sometime before the Writers’ Strike. ‘Justice League’ was cranking up, ‘Night at the Museum 2’ was cranking up, the ‘Flash’ movie was in development.”

“Collectively, the producers realized that movie needed a leader who could focus exclusively on bringing it to the screen,” continued the director, whose long string of comedy hits includes “Just Married,” “Cheaper by the Dozen” and “The Pink Panther.” “And because ‘Justice League’ was looking like it was going to get made, there was this time sensitivity to move ‘Flash’ forward.”

Levy recalled telling the “Flash” producers, “If you’re looking for someone who can devote himself only to ‘The Flash,’ I can’t be your guy, because I’m the shepherd of my own franchise — ‘Night at the Museum’ — and I’m going to need to pay attention to that.”

“That’s really what it was,” continued Levy. “We were doing development, and getting interesting places on the script, but they wanted someone with more time and focus than I was able to promise.”

As a result of the “Flash” collapse and an in-demand schedule that has him rolling cameras on the Steve Carell-Tina Fey romantic comedy “Date Night” next week, Levy says he’ll most likely never make a superhero film.

“You know what? It’s not a yearning for me,” he explained. “It’s a thing I’d love to try my hand at, but as I look at the work of guys like [Jon] Favreau, [Christopher] Nolan and Zack Snyder, it occurs to me that there are guys who are genuinely naturals at those sort of films. And I may or may not have that muscle.”
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/04/1...plains-departure-runs-from-comic-book-movies/
 
^Well at least he admitted he isn't capable of directing a comic book movie. It's a good thing we didn't get that train wreck of a movie.
 
10 motives why Barry is the best choice:

1°: He was the "first" Flash. I thought Jay Garrick was
2°: His origin is simplier. Simpler doesnt mean better
3°: He's got an attractive job for youngster (Forensic scientist), which could help the box office. ????
4°: He's the fastest Flash. I heard other wise
5°: He was the one who discovered the special tricks of supervelocity, like the intagibility and the invisibility. Wally discovered the Infinite Mass punch and is a better master of the speed force
6°: He's witty, yet serious, which is the perfect mix. So is Wally in fact Wally is more witty and funny
7°: His supporting cast is great. So is Wally's or even Bart's for tha tmatter (but I dont want a Bart movie)
8°: His Rogue Gallery is great. I mean they have so similar rogue galleries that it can go either way for me
9°: He can also provide some physical humor, thanks to his cronical slowness. Sounds like Marty McFly from back to the Future...and I dont mean that in a good way.
10°: He's awesome.

10 reasons for Wally
1. The Flash of this generation (Been the Flash for about the last 20 years)

2. Just to reply to your job thing, his job is more relatable to people. One of the first heroes not to have a "cool" job (mechanic)

3. Hes has the weight of a legacy on his shoulder built by two other heroes

4. Is the fastest Flash according to dc database and flash wiki

5. He's funnier and clearly more interesting since most Flash media (tv shows, etc.) have only been Barry Allen by name but have used the mannerisms and personality of Wally

6. Their Rogue galleries would be a tie except Wally's reverse flash (Zoom) isnt some time traveling guy who made it so that when he wears the suit it gives him superspeed. Wally's Zoom is a former friend of Wally and a mentally sick guy who doesnt want to kill Wally, but make him a better hero by giving him a tragedy; he's like a crazed fanboy

7. He is more liked by fans. Check the scoreboard here and most other sights (yahoo answers, etc.) and he is more of a fan favorite especially since the mediocre reviews of Flash: Rebirth

8. Wally is different. Barry just seems like hes from the average superhero cookie cutter

9. "Wally's personality matches his power. He is youthful even as a father. He works on fast cars, likes to run, he's a racer. Barry Allen is a detective like Elongated Man." I read this on another site and I would have to agree

10. His "origin" story is so different from the average superheroes
 
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maybe cast ryan gosling. i think he could pull off barry allen. since everyone seems to think that wally and barry similar in character(aside from both being the flash) he could also dye his hair red and play wally west.
 
10 motives why Barry is the best choice:

1°: He was the "first" Flash.
2°: His origin is simplier.
3°: He's got an attractive job for youngster (Forensic scientist), which could help the box office.
4°: He's the fastest Flash.
5°: He was the one who discovered the special tricks of supervelocity, like the intagibility and the invisibility.
6°: He's witty, yet serious, which is the perfect mix.
7°: His supporting cast is great.
8°: His Rogue Gallery is great.
9°: He can also provide some phisical humor, thanks to his cronical slowness.
10°: He's awesome.

Ha! Good post, my man.

My reasons are similar to that:

1. Barry Allen is the DEFINITIVE Flash

Barry Allen is all about speed which is what The Flash is supposed to be about. He matches the powers. Everything about him literally is about speed and its related forms. His whole life is about speed. That's the premise of his comics, and in the age of technology where everyone wants everything instantly, instant communications, etc, speed is an incredibly relevant concept. Barry Allen is slow, The Flash is fast. That is the character.

Now I know that people like Wally West because he took over for Barry (and acts like a less jerky Anakin Skywalker) and I don't mean any disrespect to the character because frankly, despite my Barry fandom, I do like Wally too, but The Flash was never supposed to be about a guy trying to fill a dead guy's boots (which is a cool concept, it works for Wally and Bucky and will probably work for Robin, but honestly, what else were they gonna do with the "legacy" characters?). The Flash was always supposed to be about speed. That's what the character is supposed to be about, that's what the book was always supposed to be about (which is a fact I think people have forgotten or are just completely oblivious to with Wally and the legacy aspect so prevelant in the last few years), and that's what the movie needs to be about: the fastest man alive. And that man is Barry Allen.

Had he not been late for work/everything else, he would not have had to work late in the forensics lab to make up for lost time the night he got hit by lightning/electrically charged chemicals (at age 24) and gained superspeed. Barry Allen is essentially fast because he is slow. He goes from being the guy everyone is waiting on to the guy waiting for everyone else. In a more complex sense, this is like how Jon Osterman became Doctor Manhattan in Watchmen, because he was a watchmaker and could reassemble things. That is what makes Barry Allen the definitive Flash, it's not his accomplishments, it's not his emoluments, it's not the fact that he was The Flash longer than anyone else, it's not that he's the iconic/greatest Flash that makes him the definitive Flash, Barry Allen is the definitive Flash because he is the only one who is all about speed. He is fast because he is slow. He's all about speed. No other Flash has that. Barry Allen is to Flash as Hal Jordan is to Green Lantern.


2. Barry Allen is the only MAJOR DC characters to have powers because of an accident

Look at every other major DC character (the big 7). None of them are formed by acts of randomness. Yes, I know Wally has an origin similar to Barry's but it's lame. First, Wally was a sidekick, second, his "origin" is a complete ripoff of Barry Allen's. Like the accident that gave Barry his powers would suddenly just re-occur in the exact same place Barry got his powers and it would work on a kid. Hokey and stupid. Done once it makes sense, twice and it only works in a comic book (barely) and is unoriginal. They should have done something else.

3. Barry Allen is the only MAJOR DC character to have his powers because of his FLAWS

Hal Jordan has the Green Lantern ring because he is brave and honest, because of his good character traits. Barry Allen has super speed because he is lazy/late for everything, and by extension uncommited or easily distracted (a classic attribute of the absent minded professor syndrome), he has powers because of his character flaws. He is fast because he is slow.

4. Barry Allen isn't bogged down by years of continuity and a legacy to scare new readers. He is his own person

Why aren't there any new Star Trek fans? Because Trek for the longest time has had its doors closed to regular people. If you weren't there from the start, then you missed it. The Flash is a similar case. It isn't simple for people and the overwhelming continuity/legacy, frankly, doesn't attract newcomers. "Well he was the Flash before this Flash and he was the Flash before this Flash and he was The Flash before this Flash, etc" scares newcomers and makes their heads spin. They need something quick and self contained as a jumping on point, the foundation/definitive version of it all, and that is Barry Allen.

5. Barry Allen is the only Flash who has a PERSONAL LIFE

Does Wally even have a job? Wally is a full time superhero, no one can relate to that. Barry is more of a person than he is a super character. He didn't have powers for most of his life like Wally, Barry was the most inexperienced when he became Flash. Wally had years of training and had been Kid Flash before he became Flash, so did Bart, yet none of them have surpassed Barry Allen. A personal life is what The Flash needs so people can identify with the character. If people want a character with a public identity and super kids they can read/watch Fantsatic Four.

6. FORENSICS are COOL

Does anyone really need proof of this? Barry Allen is even more relevant not just because of the popularity of shows like "CSI" but because the forensics technology itself has advanced so much. It would me a mistake to pass up the chance to have a superhero on the big screen with a job this cool.

7. Barry Allen is the GREATEST Flash

Let's see he:

- He co-founded the JLA, even suggested the "Justice" part of the moniker.

- Created the lagacy that Wally and Bart carry as The Flash

- Discovered the Multiverse, a HUGE part of the DC mythology

- Sacraficed his life in Crisis on Infinite Earths, saving the universe

- Without him, there would be no Wally West (nephew (or at least a superpowered Wally West anyway)) or Bart Allen (grandson from the future), they are related to him and are wearing his suit

As a publication material, Barry Allen jump-started the Silver Age and saved comics. If we are to speak in biblical terms, Superman would be Adam, the first man, but Barry would be Noah, the preserver of mankind. Barry as The Flash reignited interest in superheroes; had it not been for him there would never have been:

Green Lantern Hal Jordan and by extension the GL Corps
JLA
Fantasic 4
Spider-Man, Iron Man, and all the other current and major Marvel heroes
Science Fiction would not have been a major focus in superhero stories if not for The Flash
Was the Flash longer than anyone else (Barry was Flash for 30 + years, Wally was Flash for 22 years, Jay was Flash for 11, and Bart was Flash for 1 year and a month)

If it weren't for him, we'd probably still be reading comics about romance or cowboys or horror stories. Also, I think he's important because he stayed dead longer than any other mainstream, A-list superhero. So that's why Barry Allen is important to comics as a publication material.


8. Barry Allen is the FASTEST Flash

I don't care what anyone else's opinion is on this. I don't care what some update lacking site that you or anyone else runs says. Barry is the fastest Flash, that is a Flash Fact. Fastest Wally has ran is slightly over the speed of light. I've read all the comics, I know. Fastest Barry ran before COIE was TEN TIMES the speed of light with minimum strain. He went OVER 100 times faster than the speed of light in Crisis on Infinite Earths, I don't care how many times Mark Waid or someone puts on panel "Wally is faster" because it's ********. It's the equivelant of how many times they told us Kyle Rayner was "better" than Hal Jordan with the ring. Wally's never gone that fast. Barry went into/became the speed force when he did this, and he survived.

9. Barry Allen is INTELLIGENT

He's the smartest. There's no question. Dude's been to college and is a forensic scientist. He deals with things in scientific terms. He's not just smart because of that, it's his whole approach to things as The Flash.

10. Barry Allen is witty and serious

This is a balance that will be needed in The Flash movie to keep it from being a complete joke as the suits at WB wanted to make it. Barry has a good sense of humor. He is sarcastic. He doesn't make himself look like a jackass like Bart and Wally occasionally, he makes other people look like jackasses. There are two kinds of people to Barry: Guilty or Not Guilty. It's very simple fact. Barry is fun to be around, but when things get serious, so does he. He has the perfect mix.

11. Great supporting cast

12. Great Rogues Gallery

13. Barry's blue eyes just look better in the red and gold suit than green or yellow eyes. I'm serious. It goes perfect.

14. Barry Allen is the current/lead Flash

15. Barry Allen has been The Flash LONGEST

Barry was Flash for over 30 years and is adding to it. Wally was Flash for 22 years, Jay 11, and Bart 1.

16. Barry Allen is in the same league (pardon the pun) as Superman, Batman, and Hal Jordan. No sidekicks here.

17. Barry Allen is the most compatible for movies and the way DC is doing things

18. HE IS AWESOME

19. Barry Allen is The Flash who has been used most in alternate media in terms of story and character

JL/JLU: Barry Allen in story with Wally West name and likeness and Bart Allen's personality

The Batman: Barry Allen

The Flash TV show: Barry Allen with Wally West story elements

Justice League: The New Frontier: Barry Allen

DC Super Hero Cartoons from the 60s-80s: Barry Allen

1970s Legends of the Superpowers tv movie: Barry Allen

Crappy JLA movie: A ****** version of Barry Allen a la "Friends"

20. He's the BEST
 
YEa even though i dont read flash, i personally rather have barry be the first flash on the big screen, keep all barry traits and then in sequels include wally and all that. Barry is more then likely going to be flash for flash film if it does happen in the next few years. Wally was more likely going to be flash for a solo film if the whole jl film had happen.
 
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