The Official Flash Thread

[protocida]

I do and I hope so.

 

[Timstuff]

I'd also like to add that Warner Bros. apparently ran a dummy teaser of The Flash with an early screening of Watchmen as a way to gauge audience interest. Multiple people posted it on youtube, which seems to vouch for it's authenticity (as well as some other misc. reports of it around the net).



BTW, in the trailer, Flash identifies himself as Wally West, so it would seem that someone at Warner Bros. has him in mind for the film. There may be hope yet for Wally Fans.

 

[protocida]

It's fake. The guy who made it said he did it Bootleg-style to add authencity.

 

[Drakon]

Too bad. It doesn't seem half bad.

 

[Timstuff]

Yeah, too bad. It was definitely smartly made.

Still, I wouldn't rule out Wally being in the movie just because Johns is currently writing the treatment. Once upon a time he wrote comics about Wally, and ultimately it's at Warner Bros. discretion as to whether or not they want Wally on film. Personally, I don't see why both characters can't be in the movie (the first one, at least). I just don't want a Barry Allen origin movie, because I think it'd be kind of boring.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

But David Dobkin is no more the Flash director?

 

[Octoberist]

i don't think so. for the better, i say.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I hope they get Kathyrn Bieglow to direct.

 

[TheWatcher]

barry-micheal c hall
wally-jensen ackles
iris-evangiline lily
linda park-kristin kreuk
captain cold-neal mcdonough
weather wizard-paul bettany
zoom-ralph fiennes
more later

 

[Sawyer]

i don't think so. for the better, i say.

Same.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i do hope like i said last night flash is next up after green lantern for 2011 with hopefully a 2012/2013 release. As for superman i do wonder what they will do since they do have that deadline and then the possibly they could still loose the rights fully in 2013.

As i said before i still would like to start flash film out with barry and have wally be there too like i said. I do like the idea maybe he was there with barry if they go the route and say barry is already with iris west at the start of the film. They both get hit by the lighting/chemicals but wally doesnt develop any speed stuff during the film and it gets hinted at the end of the film. So then they can have two flash's in the sequel do the whole death of barry deal and the passing the torch thing. Another question in the comics when barry started up he was around 24 yrs old right? how old/age difference is wally to barry when wally started up?

 

[Saint]

Geoff Johns producing is, quite literally, the best news that has ever been spread across the internet. That news burns with the light of ten thousand suns.

 

[Webhead2006]

even better news would be an actual director to stay invovled with the project and its actually rolling on film.

 

[SuperAl]

i always liked the guy who played the human torch as the Flash

 

[Kevin Smith]

Johns? It'll definetly be Barry! t:

I'm REALLY happy with this.

I bet in an 2012 release.

Me too!!!

I want a Barry origin with Mirror Master as the villain. I think that'd be awesome.

 

[cerealkiller182]

What could have been an original and creative take on superhero movies is now going to be a run of the mill superhero movie. This is pretty depressing.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Ryan Reynolds for the Flash.

 

[Timstuff]

What could have been an original and creative take on superhero movies is now going to be a run of the mill superhero movie. This is pretty depressing.

We don't know what to expect just yet. I will be disappointed if it's just a run-of-the-mill origin movie about Barry Allen becoming the Flash, but we don't know if that's the direction Warner Bros. wants to move in yet. Johns being involved doesn't necessarily mean that's what we're getting, and seeing as the movie doesn't even have a director yet it's too early to make any assumptions about it. I'm sure that if Johns had a totally free hand to do whatever he wanted he'd probably go for a Barry Allen flick, but again, he's not going to be the only voice dictating what happens with this movie.

I'm going to try and remain optimistic, whatever is in store for this movie. I'd rather have a predictable by-the-numbers Barry Allen Flash movie than none at all, but it's still possible that something better than that is in store. Even with Johns being involved, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Wally to be in the mix.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well if they can put wally and barry in the picture and do something good with both characters i wouldnt mind seeing them both in the film. But like i said perferably i still like to see barry first, include wally and maybe have him also get the speed force powers in the first film, but he doesnt become flash to second film deal. Like some said doing the whole sidekick/passing the torch thing hasnt really happened in a hero film before. Hopefully we will know soon what they will be doing with the film if its getting in real pre production stage.

 

[Octoberist]

What could have been an original and creative take on superhero movies is now going to be a run of the mill superhero movie. This is pretty depressing.

Thats not fair to say that, man.

 

[The Guard]

Why on Earth would anyone think that a Flash movie, about either Wally or Barry, would be boring?

 

[JackIvyGB]

I personally don't see a Barry Allen Flash film being boring at all. When was the last time you saw a movie about a cop that was a superhero, let alone a CSI cop? Also, after buying and watching the TV series, I personally wouldn't have it any other way than Barry first t:

I do agree that the legacy angle would be one of the factors that makes a flash film different from the rest (other than the fact that it is a flash movie and what I mentioned above). I do believe that if a Kid Flash were introduced in the movie and done in a serious (as in taken seriously, not necessarily Dark Knight serious. He can be funny and still be a character that is taken seriously) and respectable manner, it would cahnge the playing field and who knows, maybe pave the way for Robin (don't listen to the fanboy drones, he can be done to fit with the current bat-films. I'm personally working on it now t.

And for those who just plain can't stand Barry, how's this: The large part of the film is about Barry as Flash. We see his accident, follow his origin, but part of a secondary plot is the speed force has suddenly chosen a few people to carry the power (I hope that sounds right or at least plausible. I haven't read many flash comics ) Barry meets Jay Garrick, the man that held the title before him and helps him to grow into his new found abilities. However, Jay knows something is up when Wally West is shown to have the powers as well. The speed force is shaking things up.

(Insert plot/shenanigans/more plot/ stir in generous amount of shenanigans)

Anyway, at the end of the movie, Barry and Wally team up against the main villain. Imagine the end of Spiderman 3 when Spidey is teamed up with Harry and they're both on Harry's glider trying to save MJ. Imagine Barry and Wally using both of their speeds together to stop whatever the villain is trying to do. Wally is in front with Barry pushing. When Wally takes off to deliver the final blow, he somehow takes Barry's energy with him, and that's how he dies. His body catches up with all the speeding he's been doing and a brilliant red flash goes off.

Wally beats the bad guy but realizes what's happened and is upset. Jay says that for whatever reason the speed force wanted Barry and he's been absorbed into it. End the movie with a voice over about the Flash legacy or the title being in good hands or something as we see Wally in his new Flash suit speed away.

I don't know, to people that have actually read more than 5 Flash comics that probably sounds horrible. Just trying to think of something to satisfy the Barry haters. I guess now that I've written it, it doesn't even really make any sense. If you wait til the last scene of the movie to have Wally become the Flash, why not just wait until the Flash 2 (or Justice League, whichever comes first)? It would fit better for it to happen in the climax of a JL film. Of course, there seems to be some lack of creativity plaguing the film makers and not allowing them to see how the film versions of characters to work together...

The best and easiest way to handle this is to just let Barry have the first film, and near the end introduce Wally as his sidekick/partner. Allude to something bad possibly happening to Barry in the sequel and how Barry is training Wally to take over should anything happen to him. Then, at the end of the second act of Flash 2, Barry dies, the third act starts and the villain thinks that the flash is dead and out of the way and he can wreak havoc. Cue Wally to show up, dressed as Flash, and save the day on his own.

On a side note, would anyone rather just have all the "Kid Flashes" use the name Impulse and have that name passed down from Wally to Bart as opposed to Kid Flash? I don't know, nothing against the "Kid Flash" name, but Impulse sounds just a little bit cooler.

Now that I think about it, by the time Flash comes out, will the legacy angle really be that big a deal? If you've read the Green Lantern script (at least the first draft), you know that

Spoiler

it reveals that one of the characters in the movie is Alan Scott, who speaks to Hal at the end about how he was a Green Lantern before him, and even has a cameo from Guy Gardener in the beginning. It's just as much a legacy story as Flash, minus the part where some of the Flashes are family and Green Lanterns are on more than just earth.

Anyway, to sum up my post:

Barry first.
It's what Jesus would do.
t:

 

[protocida]

I'd make the Justice Society members, like Alan Scott and Jay Garrick, World War II heroes whom the government covered saying they were just comic-book characters and urban legends, and now, secretly protect the word and take the new generation that arised (Hal, Barry, Diana...) under their wings.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Thats not fair to say that, man.

I know, but i got vent

Why on Earth would anyone think that a Flash movie, about either Wally or Barry, would be boring?

Never used the word boring. I said Run-of-the-mill, I consider it very different. This will end up being Iron Man with superspeed instead of armor. It wont push any barriers, wont do anything different, but will be good in its own right.

Just the fact that a Sidekick trying to step outside of his mentor's shadow hasnt been done yet in this medium makes it exponentially more creative and interesting. Even if it sucks, they would at least go down trying something different.

And I know someone's just gonna say. "They can still do that in a sequel," but a sequel isnt guaranteed. Im so sick of hearing directors saying things similiar to how excited they are about making the sequel because they can skip exposition. What's stopping them? Its like all the rules of filmmaking get thrown out the window because of comics.

And if they end up just combining the characters like they have in the past I'll be ****ing pissed cause thats a waste of both of them.

 

[protocida]

1°, 2° and 3° movies: Barry.
4°, 5° and 6° movies: Wally.