The Official Flash Thread

[jmc]

Good news about Flash.

 

[Timstuff]

JMC, might we be seeing an awesome Flash manip from you any time soon?

 

[NotFadeAway]

Not Fade,

I think an MM supernatural detective show would be great on HBO. A one hour once a week show would be great if done by the write people.

If TRUE BLOOD can become a success, than an edgy, yet witty, supernatural MM show can certainly be successful.

Skaarsgard is a good choice for Green Arrow as well.

Sorry I haven't responed to this yet, I haven't been in the Flash thread until I read the greenlight news.

I think MM would be a great, on HBO, or even and ABC or NBC. On any of those networks, it would require the right people, and that can be said for anything, but ecspecially in this case. You would a combonation of writers like the True Blood creative team, Joss Whedon's Mutant Enemey team of guys like Tim Minear or David Fury, Ronald D. Moore of Battlestar Galactica, Darlton of Lost fame, writers that have made successful, long lasting genre shows that the public has taken to, and teaming them with a comic book writer or two, preferably Jeph Loeb. Jeph Loeb should be involved in everything lol. But seriously, MM is so underrated as a character and his abilities. I believe it was Superman himself that once called MM that most powerful creature on Earth. I'd keep him John Jones form the majority of the time, but play up the telekinesis, shapeshifting, etc. You could have him stop both everyday crime, more common supernatural threats, and even some low end DC villians that you know will never see the light of day. And I would go the route of having MM being teleported away from Mars through space AND time, with Mars being a dead planet for millenium. But, I would find a way to work in MM's brother Ma'alefa'ak, Martian mythology, the Hyperclan, the Sabotage of Evolution storyline. In terms of supporting characters, I'd work in Jason Blood/Etrigan as an ally of MM. And then, with the right acting and writing, you could get some pretty emotional character work with MM. He isn't like Superman, who lost his race when he was an infant. MM had a wife and children, a life. And then he was just ripped away, and not only ripped away, but ripped away to a time that saw Mars as dead, baron planet. Thats completely different than Superman. Also, you can have fun with MM's love of Eastern philosphy, although I might be saying that because I personally find eastern philosphy fascinating. Now, I don't have any clue as to who I would cast as MM.

And yes, Skarsgaard would be a bad ass Green Arrow. I think DC should seize the day and make up for the mistake of Skarsgaard not being Thor. The guy has every single trait you could look for in Green Arrow, he is by far and large my first choice. I would accept Skarsgaard as Aquaman and then Josh Holloway as Green Arrow because Skarsgaard does have that regal feel about him, but I'd rather he play Green Arrow.

Anyway, this is a Flash thread. Long live the true Flash, WALLY WEST.

 

[Webhead2006]

hopefully we will be hearing some good stuff for flash and hopefully ww to in the next few months/yr. Counting when they will be pegged for possible releases. I agree best place would be summer 2013 for flash probably try to grab one of the prime may spots early may or late may. If not may probably july would be good to place it. As for ww as much as i would love to see it in 2013 unless things really get moving with her i dont see her happening to soon. But hopefully they can get things rolling now.

 

[Octoberist]

Paul Rudd for Barry allen. Paul Rudd for Barry Allen

 

[NotFadeAway]

Paul Rudd for Barry allen. Paul Rudd for Barry Allen

Paul Rudd would be a kick ass Barry Allen.

 

[Octoberist]

start the RUDD movement! (chanting Rudd)

 

[Webhead2006]

i would be down with him. i have enjoyed his films i have seen.

 

[Green Ghost]

Never thought of Rudd, but it could really work!

 

[TheWatcher]

Awhile back,i suggested Paul Rudd. I was not sure with the choice. Then i watched Chuck and BOOM. Zachary Levi for Barry Allen and Yvonne Strahvoski for Black Canary.

 

[Webhead2006]

levi would be another pick i would like. Rudd, levi, and porter are 3 guys i would love to see test/possibly land the role.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Here is my thing with using Wally West......

Was Barry Allen the original, yes.( not counting Garrick, although I would use him in a movie) Will the film likely be about Allen, yes, with Johns in charge that is a yes. Is it safer to do a straight origin flick, yes, hence Barry again.

But Wally West is the most developed character in the DCU, atleast I think so and atleast out of the big seven JLA heroes. With that, you can make a memorable franchise. One, instead of going the run of the mill origin route, having a Legacy movie about Barry dying and Wally stepping in could create something special, something fresh. And there is so much depth to Wally that can lead to watching the evolution of a hero over 3-4 films, hell there is so much character there that he could have a television show. Dumbass loser to goofball superhero, though quietly reluctant, to living in Barry's shadow, to getting sick of Barry's shadow, with love, by being a better hero, to maturing, to finding Linda Park, to becoming one of the greatest heroes of all time. Could be riveting if done right.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea get your feeling fade about wally, and for you wally fans out there. For me i dont have any deep love to any of the flashs. But i think each are all good characters and they all deverse their due and all that. But it would be best in my mind to start with barry, have wally be a key supporting character. So then it sets up the character to be flash later. Then some how to also throw in gerrick and all that.

 

[NotFadeAway]

yea get your feeling fade about wally, and for you wally fans out there. For me i dont have any deep love to any of the flashs. But i think each are all good characters and they all deverse their due and all that. But it would be best in my mind to start with barry, have wally be a key supporting character. So then it sets up the character to be flash later. Then some how to also throw in gerrick and all that.

With Jay Garrick, I'd work him into a Barry OR Wally movie. It's well known that originally with Barry Allen, he developed the Flash persona in part due to his love of a comic book about Jay Garrick. So Garrick was originally fictional in Allen's life.

Well, you can use some creativity here and play with that. In a Barry movie, in which an original spin is put on the story, set it up in a similiar fashion. Jay Garrick wouldn't need to be a comic book character, but make his time as The Flash into some kind of folk hero or modern day Robin Hood/King Arthur type myth that called himself the Flash. So once Barry gets his speed powers, he decides to adapt a Flash persona out of his love for that story. Low and behold, an older Jay Garrick seeks out and finds Barry Allen after he debuts as the Flash or even beforehand. You could say that when Barry got his powers, Garrick felt it somehow via the Speedforce. And then write that Garrick operated as The Flash, but during that time he avoided becoming a public figure, hence being a tall tale-esque deal. He could then help mentor Barry behind the scenes.

BTW, my choice for an older Jay Garrick is Michael Biehn. And I'm still behind Peter Krause as an older Barry in a Wally-centric movie, with James Frain as the Reverse Flash.

God, I would love to make a Flash movie or television series. That has always been my fanboy fantasy. I love Superman, I do. Webhead, you know this. But it would just be to much. I can give out Superman ideas, but thats about it, I don't envy anyone has to work on such an iconic character with such a polarized fanbase. I mean look how much everyone fights in the Superman forums, and this next film is pretty much make or break. But a Flash film, I would love to have full control of The Flash and I think there is a way you can make a movie that uses the entire Flash Legacy and pleases everyone. My Flash idea/ideas reek of elseworld, but I think that at times, the best way to go about a comic book movie is making an elseworld story.

Wally, Barry, Jay, Linda Park, Tina McGee, Iris Allen, Reverse Flash, black flash, the Rogues, the SpeedForce and characters like Max Mercury, I think it can all be molded and worked into a franchise without being a cluster. All of these characters and elements would be there, except Gorilla Grodd. The first villian I would use is Reverse Flash, a Reverse Flash that is a combination of the three different Reverse Flashes. The movie would be a super speed affair. The sequel would have the rogues, and it would be done Godfather 2 style. Wally West trying to stop the group as a whole in modern day and flashbacks to Barry stopping each one individually as a way to go about the storyline of Wally being in Barry's shadow.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Has anyone suggested him for Wally West?

I'm still a Barry supporter, but I'm more interested in seeing Flash get the best movie possible, if that's with Barry, fine, if it's Wally, fine.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Has anyone suggested him for Wally West?

I'm still a Barry supporter, but I'm more interested in seeing Flash get the best movie possible, if that's with Barry, fine, if it's Wally, fine.

I like Seann William Scott, I think he is a funny guy, but it just wouldn't work.

When it comes to casting Wally West, In my mind I see either a younger Joshua Jackson or a younger Alexis Denisof. For what I want to see done with the Wally West character, I think you need the range of someone like Denisof, who went from a complete goofball to an utter bad ass over the course of 5 seasons and never once felt forced, the guy made it believable. Now, Wally West is obviously not some cold, utter bad ass, I aware of this. But he has to go from goofball to a hero that the audience truly believes in, so I think an actor is needed with that kind of range to do so without it seeming forced.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i would easily have jay be a comic character or maybe a 50s/60s tv star like adam west style batman deal for film. yea it has to be tough to work on iconic characters like these for certain folks. And i made this point before two it has to be even more harder for characters to be adapted in film/tv/cartoons to which one they will go with if its been multiple folks.

 

[OwlBoy]

I don't see why Jay can't just be the first Flash, you can have comics of him but why can't he also be a really real superhero that was out an active. There were tons of comics and pulps that featured fictionalized version of real life people; I think making Jay an old TV star cheapens the idea of the Flash legacy.

 

[Octoberist]

the problem with Seann William Scott is that, thus far, I haven't seen too much range from his acting. Say what you will with Ryan Reynolds and Chris Evans, but both have been in a number of dramatic roles, despite their 'comedic' backgrounds. I just can't see Seann having a whole lot of depth, and he's been around since 1998.

 

[Octoberist]

I don't see why Jay can't just be the first Flash, you can have comics of him but why can't he also be a really real superhero that was out an active. There were tons of comics and pulps that featured fictionalized version of real life people; I think making Jay an old TV star cheapens the idea of the Flash legacy.

I just think again, that it'll be too much if Jay was the 'first' Flash.

 

[batlovescatDC]

I still say that the main character should be Wally West, with Barry Allen being a mentor, etc., etc. and then dying within the first half hour or so. Kind of like a Batman Begins type thing. Show Barry dying eary on in the film and then (through the eyes of Wally) pepper in flashbacks to Barry training him and... well, you know. IMHO Barry is not developed or current enough to make it as the main character of a movie.

 

[HighFivingMF]

the problem with Seann William Scott is that, thus far, I haven't seen too much range from his acting. Say what you will with Ryan Reynolds and Chris Evans, but both have been in a number of dramatic roles, despite their 'comedic' backgrounds. I just can't see Seann having a whole lot of depth, and he's been around since 1998.

"Southland Tales" is a pretty different role for him, somewhat serious, though the movie is terrible, he's easily the best part. And Kevin Smith is casting him as the lead in his hockey movie, which is supposed to be a dramatic movie. I guess we'll see once that comes out.

 

[Octoberist]

that's the problem; the movie was terrible so it doesn't really help him.

and with Kevin Smith, we'll see what happens with that one.

 

[OwlBoy]

I just think again, that it'll be too much if Jay was the 'first' Flash.

Why? Just say there was a guy calling himself the Flash in the 40s, then Barry then Wally. Legacy is a huge part of the Flash mythos we shouldn't throw that out because some people might get "confused".

 

[Webhead2006]

i still say its better to start with barry, give his origin and all that. Ther eis alot we can do with barry and the whole csi job and all that. The like i keep saying have wally be a key supporting character. Like we start off with barry and iris dating/engaged and soon to be married and all that. So we can have wally be around and develop him out.