Comics The Official GAMBIT Discussion thread

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

#22 was supposed to be out in two weeks, but it got delayed.

F****n august.

 

[squeekness]

Nah, the editors just are taking the heat on this one. Rather they be the bad guys then the artists. Smart move, really. Although whether or not it fools many people is an entirely different story.

But regarding the Cassady comments, ask any fan of Planetary. Took like, what, 5-6 months between two issues?

It will still never be as bad as All Star batman and Robin. We get a new issue like every five months or so.

 

[Canemacar]

It will still never be as bad as All Star batman and Robin. We get a new issue like every five months or so.

That comic is so hilariously bad that that's probably a good thing.

 

[iamlegend]

On the Gambit front...

I saw somewhere in a recent Carey interview that Gambit's heritage MIGHT be explored in 2008. A fan directly asks if we'll hear about it and Carey says 2008 is a possibility.

The question was driven by some line of dialogue between Gambit and Apocalypse in BoA.

Two things...

1. Does anyone know exactly what Apocalypse said that fueld the question? I can't remember for the life of me?

2. Does this confirm that Gambit's going to make it through the crossover not only alive and well, but as a regular character again?

 

[Canemacar]

1. Does anyone know exactly what Apocalypse said that fueld the question? I can't remember for the life of me?

He was trying to flatter Gambit. He said something to the effect of: "Someone with your heritage should be a leader."

I think that was a reference to that stupid Clan Akkuba thing going on at the time that they made Chamber and Blink part of (ruining Chamber in the process).

I'm not hopeful at Marvel's plans to explore that avenue: there's too great a chance it'll be screwed up for my tastes either by connection him to someone he shouldn't be connected to (Apocalypse for example) or making his backstory even more convoluted.

2. Does this confirm that Gambit's going to make it through the crossover not only alive and well, but as a regular character again?

Seems like it. Though I'm leaning more towards the belief that they'll just end up giving him a mini rather than put him on a team.

 

[iamlegend]

He was trying to flatter Gambit. He said something to the effect of: "Someone with your heritage should be a leader."

I think that was a reference to that stupid Clan Akkuba thing going on at the time that they made Chamber and Blink part of (ruining Chamber in the process).

I'm not hopeful at Marvel's plans to explore that avenue: there's too great a chance it'll be screwed up for my tastes either by connection him to someone he shouldn't be connected to (Apocalypse for example) or making his backstory even more convoluted.



Seems like it. Though I'm leaning more towards the belief that they'll just end up giving him a mini rather than put him on a team.

Eh. Even if they give him a whacked out heritage it'd pry be enough to tie him into the greater scheme for awhile... Good with the bad, no?

As for the mini... I wouldn't complain about that. Though I'm fairly sure he's going to wind up on a team after the crossover. There's been too much demand for him during his absence.

 

[Canemacar]

Eh. Even if they give him a whacked out heritage it'd pry be enough to tie him into the greater scheme for awhile... Good with the bad, no?

Didn't work too well last time they tried something like that. In Uncanny #350.

As for the mini... I wouldn't complain about that. Though I'm fairly sure he's going to wind up on a team after the crossover. There's been too much demand for him during his absence.

I'm less optimistic, but then again thats just me. I find it hard that they'd bother putting him back on a team after expressing as much contempt for him as they have (both deliberately and unintentionally).

 

[iamlegend]

Didn't work too well last time they tried something like that. In Uncanny #350.



I'm less optimistic, but then again thats just me. I find it hard that they'd bother putting him back on a team after expressing as much contempt for him as they have (both deliberately and unintentionally).

Ah, c'mon, we all know Marvel learns from their mistakes, right? t:

To be fair though, they were just trying to tie him into X-history a little more. Just didn't turn out well.

About now though... I think that the fans have just complained too much for Marvel to dump Gambit off in limbo or something. He may not be written very well, but I think he'll be a regular somewhere or the other.

 

[Canemacar]

Ah, c'mon, we all know Marvel learns from their mistakes, right? t:

Xorneto. Nuff said.

To be fair though, they were just trying to tie him into X-history a little more. Just didn't turn out well.

He's been FUBAR ever since.

About now though... I think that the fans have just complained too much for Marvel to dump Gambit off in limbo or something. He may not be written very well, but I think he'll be a regular somewhere or the other.

I'm not so sure of that. Not very many people really care about the character. He's been mired in a soap opera so long that the majority of X-fans have given up with the character or started claiming he's a shallow, pointless character and creators take potshots at him either in their work or in interviews and whenever the X-men are adapted to a new media, he's always ignored or tacked on well after the fact.

At this point, I'm doubting he'll ever become more than just a background character.

But, to keep from being a total drag, I bring up a preview of #200 and what looks like a shot of Gambit confronting Cable.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/798/798935p1.html

 

[iamlegend]

I'm not so sure of that. Not very many people really care about the character. He's been mired in a soap opera so long that the majority of X-fans have given up with the character or started claiming he's a shallow, pointless character and creators take potshots at him either in their work or in interviews and whenever the X-men are adapted to a new media, he's always ignored or tacked on well after the fact.

At this point, I'm doubting he'll ever become more than just a background character.

And I thought I was a pessimist...

Canemacar, I assure you Gambit has a very dedicated fan base. A very loud one too.

Mike Carey said in an interview that he'd received countless questions about one of the MIA characters as soon as he took over... Trust me, he was talking about Gambit. Hell, his views on the character have even changed since he's started writing adjectiveless, if only because the fans have implored him to give Gambit a try.

Is Gambit in a lot of the X-Men new media? No, but Joe Q and Avi Arad love the 80's characters to death, so that's not a surprise to me. Besides, Gambit is by and far THE character fans say should have been in the triology of fans.

Lighten up man. It may take awhile, but Gambit's coming back.

 

[Canemacar]

Lighten up man. It may take awhile, but Gambit's coming back.

Look at the link I provided. All three of the pages.t:

 

[iamlegend]

Look at the link I provided. All three of the pages.t:

I did... and I'm even more excited now then I was when the cover first came out... Not only does it officially confirm that Gambit's back to his old self (though he is kept rather shrouded in the preview pages), but we get to see him go one-on-one with Cable? I'm loving it.

On a side note... Seems like Karima's the X-Member that goes Marauder against her will then?

 

[Canemacar]

I did... and I'm even more excited now then I was when the cover first came out... Not only does it officially confirm that Gambit's back to his old self (though he is kept rather shrouded in the preview pages), but we get to see him go one-on-one with Cable? I'm loving it.

A hint of who dies, perhaps? t:

On a side note... Seems like Karima's the X-Member that goes Marauder against her will then?

Malice the computer virus!

 

[iamlegend]

A hint of who dies, perhaps? t:

Hmm... I doubt they'd kill off Cable, though I think we can assume someone thrashes him hard, seeing as how he's not around to help Bobby and Sam try to save the day in #201.

But hey, we're gonna get Gambit/Cable AND Gambit/X-Men to be named later in the same book? I love it.

 

[Canemacar]

Not to mention that Gambit will appear in Cable&Deadpool 42 that comes out the same day. I'm guessing it'll replay the scene we just saw, Carey hinted as much.

 

[iamlegend]

It'll be a good day, regardless.

I like the way he seems to be re-introduced... First we get his boot and a hint of his duster... Then the "Dat's," and finally... BANG.

 

[LadyVader]

I'm not sure that's gambit. Everybody seems to be wearing trenchcoats there days.

 

[Canemacar]

Nothing like some good news to beat back the tides of despair.

I'm not sure that's gambit. Everybody seems to be wearing trenchcoats there days.

You're right! We don't want to freak out over some random guy with a Cajun accent and kinetic mutant powers, now do we?

 

[iamlegend]

Nothing like some good news to beat back the tides of despair.



You're right! We don't want to freak out over some random guy with a Cajun accent and kinetic mutant powers, now do we?

It would be Carey's style to trick everyone by having someone else in a trenchcoat... But to have a guy with that accent and those powers NOT be Gambit? That'd just be, well, idiotic.

 

[Canemacar]

I like how cold he comes off: he just stands there mocking Cable about being comrades in arms as he stares at a doll left by a small child who either died in the attack or had to flee, then casually charges it and brings the building down. This bodes well.

 

[iamlegend]

I like how cold he comes off: he just stands there mocking Cable about being comrades in arms as he stares at a doll left by a small child who either died in the attack or had to flee, then casually charges it and brings the building down. This bodes well.

Hey, anytime you can keep "brings the building down" and "doll" in the same setence is a good thing, right? t:

 

[Coldqueen]

I love Gambit, and I'd love to learn more about his heritage...

As long as those *****es don't even mention the SUMMERS NAME WHEN THEY DO IT.

 

[iamlegend]

I love Gambit, and I'd love to learn more about his heritage...

As long as those *****es don't even mention the SUMMERS NAME WHEN THEY DO IT.

Well, considering the situation NOW, I agree with you.

However, had they done it back in the 90's sometimes, it would have worked. I mean, in all reality, it makes sense. Gambit is essentially Cyke raised under different circumstances. Orphans who grew up into somewhat similar looking adults who both have emotional AND power control issues?

Hell, you could make the argument that they're more alike than Cyke and Havok.

That said, it'd be stupid to do it now, seeing as how we've already gone through the rather crap-tastic Vulcan saga.

 

[Coldqueen]

Yeah...but wouldn't it be a HUGE shock if we found out that Gambit was the...*GASP*...FOURTH SUMMERS BROTHER? OOOOHHHHH!!!

And if they do it I will never buy another Marvel comic again.

 

[iamlegend]

Yeah...but wouldn't it be a HUGE shock if we found out that Gambit was the...*GASP*...FOURTH SUMMERS BROTHER? OOOOHHHHH!!!

And if they do it I will never buy another Marvel comic again.

That's why I said they really missed any opportunity to do it when they published the Vulcan story... Calm down Queen.