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DC basically has Nolan, other than him their cinematic future and present is in a dump.
Problem with Burton is the 'making a good movie' part, though. He has visual style, sure....but style doesn't seem to be the troubling issue with GL.
Want to be it's better than GL?
Hopefully you'll see this message before it gets buried
Studio's believe the negative buzz of the film comes from Comic Con.
Studio's also aren't getting the money they invested back from promoting at comic con. People find out the movie's going to stink and don't go to the theater.
So the studio's pull out of comic con.
DC basically has Nolan, other than him they're cinematic future and present is in a dump.
burton has made many GREAT movies so what are you talking about?
Iron Man, X-men, and Spiderman didn't have overly stylized 'looks'...they were all good and did really well...so....It seems the color correction or key scheme of the movie doesnt suit the compositing style they used...remember in sin city how the entire movie was stylized? watchmen (saturated film noir gamma), Speed Racer (overly exposed color saturation), Sucker punch (extra gamma, flim noir), Transformers (hot key), Sky Captain (nuff said) etc have a look to them that fit and blend the FX well. GL seems like Campbells average filming style was applied to a movie that needed a LOOK
I'm one of Snyder supporters but this would have been a career ender for him.
Just look at the script. I'd he escaped.
If Snyder had Goyer or JJ ABRAMS who have proven to deliver GREAT screenplays for sci fi/comic booky type movies behind him then there would have been no issue. The entire movie would have kicked ASS
If Snyder had Goyer or JJ ABRAMS who have proven to deliver GREAT screenplays for sci fi/comic booky type movies behind him then there would have been no issue. The entire movie would have kicked ASS
Goyer is a mediocre writer. He has worked on great films, but films where he did most of the work tend to suck. He is great at plotting how a movie should play out (outlining how things happen) but when it comes to development and dialogue, ugh.
if I remember correctly, all nolan did to goyers Begins script was spell check it and direct it as subtle as he could.
He's made a lot of striking visuals, but not a lot of great movies. He made two good ones in Ed Wood and Edward Scissorhands, but that's about it.
To each their own...I really don't consider him a very good filmmaker outside of his visual shtick, which in and of itself gets pretty tiresome as well.tho this is all subjective lets go look at the tomatoe meter which i agree with as far as burton...here ure being really unfair. even though u didnt like some other ones of his he has had a pretty damn good career overall...
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street 86%
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride 84%
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 82%
Big Fish 76%
Sleepy Hollow 67%
Ed Wood 91%
Batman Returns 79%
Edward Scissorhands 91%
Batman (1989) 71%
Beetlejuice 81%
Pee-wee's Big Adventure 92%
not too shabby...id trust him if he got creative control as with all these movies he did
I think it's surprising batman 89 has only a 71%. I personally consider it to be in the top 5 superhero movies of all time.
I put it in the top 10 out of respect for its success/popularity and for being the only real comic-based franchise of its era...but as a film, it doesn't break the top 10 for me. I remember when it came out and I really wanted to like it....but it was like WTF?
lol maybe it's just my nostalgia
but I did watch it recently and I really just dig the personality and the look of it
You know what is laughable? It's you continuously being a tool by talking down to a friggin' movie that you haven't even seen yet.