The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 2

[Tacit Ronin]

I think there was no budget for it.

Whatever excuses you can come up with doesn't rectify those flaws.

 

[moviedoors]

I think there was no budget for it.

200 million dollars and they couldn't feature a massed Corp for more than 5 minutes of screen time and one tacked on "battle"? Yeah, sure. Avatar cost $240 million and it had a 40 minute battle scene! Hell, District 9 cost $30 million and look at what they were able to pull off!

And that still doesn't change that I was massively let down at the lack of action on a "cosmic scale," a term plenty of people involved in the production had no problem bandying about.

 

[The Morningstar]

I guess Marvel Studios skipped that class.

Aww look at the butt hurt DC fan bringing Marvel into this.

And Marvel didn't skip that class. All their movies, except Iron Man 2, are movies that stand on their own two feet. Maybe Avengers or SHIELD references here and there, but they certainly don't seem to be saving things for sequels.

 

[moviedoors]

I had the feeling that he was flying around space at highspeed and then he later went around the sun.

Then chalk it up to poor editing. They hit that cloud of rocks not 5 seconds after exiting the Earth's atmosphere. Hell, it takes 8 minutes for light to go from the sun to us, let alone from the Earth to the astroid belt.

 

[akfj]

Aww look at the butt hurt DC fan bringing Marvel into this.

Ugh, such a stock answer. Why do you come to that conclusion? I never said anything about DC being superior, and happen to enjoy Marvel quite a bit. But, you can't say that saving things for a sequel doesn't work, when Marvel's approach has been to use their movies as a build-up to a big team-up event movie.

 

[LadyVader]

Aww look at the butt hurt DC fan bringing Marvel into this.

And Marvel didn't skip that class. All their movies, except Iron Man 2, are movies that stand on their own two feet. Maybe Avengers or SHIELD references here and there, but they certainly don't seem to be saving things for sequels.

To this I would add that Marvel Studios has a long term strategy for their properties and they know the material through and through. WB has always struggled with what to do with the DC library of characters and how to properly use them. Say what you want about Marvel Studios movies, they always know how to give fans exactly what they want.

 

[jmc]

Yeah but with the exception IM2 the films have worked individually. Avengers is essentially a different movie altogether, it's not a direct sequel to any film, it can't be.

 

[The Morningstar]

Marvels films are no where near perfect. But they know what they are doing. The movies stand on their own. Sure they have plans for Avengers etc, but apart from parts in Iron Man 2, they don't seem to be looking ahead to the future to the extent that it damages the solo movies.

From what i've read about Green Lantern it seems WB/DC is so desperate for this to be a new franchise they've focused more on marketing (which has been huge and desperate) instead of actually focusing on making this movie worthy of a franchise in itself. It's kinda nefarious really. The marketing campaign, all this talk of the Star Wars of superheroes, big cosmic drama with loads of space aliens (when the Corps get about 20 minutes screen time) etc, is basically just flat out lying to all of us.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

just came back from the movie and i'd give it a solid 7/10

i think the critics are blowing this way out of proportion. it's almost as if they expected a Dark Knight or something. sure, the movie has its flaws but it's not overly exaggerated bad as the critics say. it was better than Superman Returns that's for sure.

 

[The Sage]

I'm glad that y'all remained mostly civil...

Nice to see some positivity. A friend of mine saw it and said he loved it. Needed to see that after the funeral dirge that was yesterday.

Green Lantern was bad ass.

Good night.

Short, concise.

To this I would add that Marvel Studios has a long term strategy for their properties and they know the material through and through. WB has always struggled with what to do with the DC library of characters and how to properly use them. Say what you want about Marvel Studios movies, they always know how to give fans exactly what they want.

Very true. But with Harry Potter ending, WB will have no choice but to learn if they want to capitalize on the potential.

 

[moviedoors]

Can there be a moratorium on critic critics accusing everyone who didn't like it of expecting The Dark Knight? Good grief.

 

[SuperDaniel]

Then chalk it up to poor editing. They hit that cloud of rocks not 5 seconds after exiting the Earth's atmosphere. Hell, it takes 8 minutes for light to go from the sun to us, let alone from the Earth to the astroid belt.

Oh yeah...they were going to take 8 mins of screentime just to suit your scientific mind.

 

[SuperDaniel]

jit was better than Superman Returns that's for sure.

FTW!!!

GL was as good as Iron Man to me.

 

[craigdbfan]

To this I would add that Marvel Studios has a long term strategy for their properties and they know the material through and through. WB has always struggled with what to do with the DC library of characters and how to properly use them. Say what you want about Marvel Studios movies, they always know how to give fans exactly what they want.

I agree.

They have a pretty good track record with their home brewed movie's they've been releasing through Paramount and will soon be Disney.

Iron Man, TIH, IM2, Thor and now hopefully Captain America and Avengers as well.

We may be in the middle of something very special and it should act as a proper example for DC/WB to study and slightly model themselves after.

Marvel is succeeding and WB/DC shouldn't be ashamed to not copy but emulate the formula that's allowed Marvel studios to do what it's done.

Get to know your characters (for real) and make cohesive well planned out interconnected stories. Marvel has it way harder due to some of their biggest properties being at other studios.

WB/DC have quite frankly little excuse as they own all their heroes and don't have that obstacle like Marvel has.

Love DC and WB but they need to step their game up. They won't always have Nolan.

 

[moviedoors]

Oh yeah...they were going to take 8 mins of screentime just to suit your scientific mind.

I didn't say that, but some sense of scale would've been nice. The speed at which everything happened was pretty silly. If it had taken longer we could've gotten a more epic battle. As is, it was woefully short. Of all the things I was expecting from this flick, underwhelming action was not one of them.

When you stick a cloud of rocks right in Earth's back yard and call it the astroid belt, you might as be making a Michael Bay movie.

 

[akfj]

From what i've read about Green Lantern it seems WB/DC is so desperate for this to be a new franchise they've focused more on marketing (which has been huge and desperate) instead of actually focusing on making this movie worthy of a franchise.

Yes, I agree, if you put a lot of attention into planning ahead and mapping things out you can avoid the typical "don't save things for a sequel" rule. DC has not been good at this. But what do I know? I'm apparently just a DC fan whose rear end is really hurting or something of that nature.

 

[jmc]

Can there be a moratorium on critic critics accusing everyone who didn't like of expecting The Dark Knight? Good grief.

Seriously, it's like having standards is a bad thing. Let's just all accept mediocrity!

 

[Ultimatehero]

I thought some parts were entertaining. Other parts were, "where the hell did this come from? Did we skip a scene?" Hal showing up when Hector attacks his father, for instance. Or I just wasn't able to pick up how he just showed up. Sometimes scenes just didn't work, like Kilowog's training sequence seemed like an awkward cut as well as the location. When Sinistro showed up however, it became really bad ass seeing all those constructs at play. The inter-cutting between GL and Hector was, I seriously think editors can learn from that sequence. Two opposing forces at play. We should have got more of that. I got an overall Iron Man 2 feeling. Some scenes and moments were phenomenal, others showed what could have been. It was like a teeter-totter, awesome to losing momentum to awesome again. I think that's the disappointing part for me. It could have been epic. I'll have to see it again to make sure, I usually can't judge a movie after first viewing (even X-Men: First Class, which now after seeing a second time is a clear 10/10) but right now it's a struggle between a 6 and a 7. It may improve, Iron Man 2 did in my mind as well.

One thing stands out in my mind though: it wasn't the directors and actors faults, most of these problems, although Campbell should have paid more attention to the script and ordered re-shoots or re-writes to certain parts. Or maybe it was that some scenes that would explain things got cut out a la Daredevil. If, hopefully sequel, keep Campbell, crew and cast - ditch the writers.

 

[jmc]

I agree.

They have a pretty good track record with their home brewed movie's they've been releasing through Paramount and will soon be Disney.

Iron Man, TIH, IM2, Thor and now hopefully Captain America and Avengers as well.

We may be in the middle of something very special and it should act as a proper example for DC/WB to study and slightly model themselves after.

Marvel is succeeding and WB/DC shouldn't be ashamed to not copy but emulate the formula that's allowed Marvel studios to do what it's done.

Get to know your characters (for real) and make cohesive well planned out interconnected stories. Marvel has it way harder due to some of their biggest properties being at other studios.

WB/DC have quite frankly little excuse as they own all their heroes and don't have that obstacle like Marvel has.

Love DC and WB but they need to step their game up. They won't always have Nolan.

It's not the formula, it's the execution. You take away the single universe elements and the Marvel films work on their own (except IM2).

 

[The Morningstar]

Yes, I agree, if you put a lot of attention into planning ahead and mapping things out you can avoid the typical "don't save things for a sequel" rule. DC has not been good at this. But what do I know? I'm apparently just a DC fan whose rear end is really hurting or something of that nature.

Well i apologise for that. But it just came across as though you was bitter at Marvel in your first post i responded to.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

FTW!!!

GL was as good as Iron Man to me.

there are definately some similarities between GL and IM

the two friends that i went with liked GL as well

hopefully WB does not pull the plus on GL and it does well enough to bring in a sequel. i'm sure WB will take heed of the critics and deliver a vastly superior sequel.

 

[SuperDaniel]

The action was not underwhelming at all to me. It was the perfect amount, imo. The only flaw of the movie was to me the speech at Hal`s apartment with Carol and Tom. That was really cheesy but Spider-man and Batman Begins had those too so i can forgive it. The first hour was probably one of the best adaptations ever and a GL comic brought to life. Seeing OA in 3D was awesome.

It wouldve been cool to see the corps fighting Parallax with Hal but maybe that would take way Hal`s heroism. My friend is not a GL fan and he loved it. He thought it was much better than First Class and so did I. I dont care that much for X-men so i didnt like it as much.

 

[mace1]

http://moviereviewintelligence.com/movie-reviews/green_lantern/

 

[craigdbfan]

It's not the formula, it's the execution. You take away the single universe elements and the Marvel films work on their own (except IM2).

They've designed a formula in terms of approaching their properties nonetheless and it's been executed well.

It's not just one or the other it's both, and I agree they do mostly work as independent films for the exception of IM2 and even then it's still a good movie just nowhere near as good as the first.

Although I have high hopes for IM3. Marvel got the point, they're over the Avengers hurdle in aligning everything so they can dedicate the third IM film well to IM far more.

 

[jmc]

The end credit sequence is online at youtube if people wanna check it out before it gets taken off.