The Official Joker Costume Thread

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Jodo, I bought the coat from that company, they didn't answer my questions :csad:, still I bought that coat and with the proper modifications (wich i still need to do) it will work .

Do you mean hellocosplay or the eBay seller? If it's from hellocosplay, is it the old or new version? I'm going to guess it's the new one since it has the stitching on the lapel edges, which is (according to them) the only difference between the two (though I'm suspicious about that being the only reason for the price difference).

I actually own both the Magnoli and the Hello Cosplay full outfits. So far, I can not believe I am saying this, I prefer wearing my Hello Cosplay coat over my magnoli. As soon as I get home, I will post pictures of why. Which is sort of good because I have a few questions to ask for support.

I can't wait for pictures and/or a more detailed review!

I got my entire base costume from an Ebay seller last Halloween cause I had like no money and went with the cheapest I got: http://cgi.ebay.com/Joker-Cosplay-C...270598525031?pt=US_CSA_MC_Suits#ht_3005wt_911 . The coat thankfully looks so much better in person (and more-so that I've broken it in and dirtied it) but it's like so thin and has no insulation which I kinda like since it's a nice year round coat, not to heavy for spring/summer but I can easily wear a hoodie under it in winter. So I might just upgrade to the hellocosplay coat and not magnoli considering how positively it's being discussed. I also gotta find me some quality gloves and a better vest not to even mention a proper tie, shoes, accurate color blazer and buttons.

From the pictures, it looks about as thin and flimsy as the Rubies one! Considering that it costs about as much as hellocosplay's offering (when you include the ridiculously high shipping cost), I'd much rather go with the latter, which is made of a wool blend. I'm looking for a coat that will also serve me well as a winter coat.

By the by, has anyone here bought a Joker coat (or anything else) from cosplaysky.com?
 
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Do you mean hellocosplay or the eBay seller? If it's from hellocosplay, is it the old or new version? I'm going to guess it's the new one since it has the stitching on the lapel edges, which is (according to them) the only difference between the two (though I'm suspicious about that being the only reason for the price difference).



I can't wait for pictures and/or a more detailed review!



From the pictures, it looks about as thin and flimsy as the Rubies one! Considering that it costs about as much as hellocosplay's offering (when you include the ridiculously high shipping cost), I'd much rather go with the latter, which is made of a wool blend. I'm looking for a coat that will also serve me well as a winter coat.

By the by, has anyone here bought a Joker coat (or anything else) from cosplaysky.com?

Well, I still do not have those pictures yet, but I can give a bit of a review. :awesome:

My Harley got me the Hello Cosplay four piece set almost exactly a year ago and for the price, well heck. It wasn't bad at all. I mean it naturally is not as accurate as Magnoli, my Magnoli excluded, but it's nice all the same. I like the fact the coat is actually sort of light, yet it keeps you warm and is rather durable. As a matter of fact I used the Hello Cosplay coat as my main winter coat all this past winter season. Thing looks amazing with a green scarf. Sorry I am digressing here. The color is a bit darker then what I feel is the right violet for a replica, and the lining is a bit off. And of course if we really want to get picky the stitching is not as accurate if you are a die hard like some of us here. XD But it's super nice all the same. Oh and I like how the back of the coat actually has more accurate princess seam lines then the magnoli. It's just missing the four separate panels. Now the things I did not like about the full outfit was, the fabric of the shirt seems to be very thick and almost uncomfortable to wear, the vest is very thin, almost like a canvas fabric, with shoulders way to wide to be accurate, and the pants. Well they feel like you are wearing some sort of very thick paper based fabric. Not really that comfortable at all. Not too mention they are a very dark blue, almost jet black, instead of purple. But, for what it's worth... I won a costume contest on halloween in the entire outfit, so to the untrained eye, I suppose it works.

As for Magnoli, the guy is amazing. His patterns, so far, are the closest I have seen to being accurate. With the right touch ups, it's like bringing it right out of the movie. Hell, take Woodstro for example. Not to mention Chris, but then again I am not sure all of Chris's is Magnoli now? Either way his work on the outfit is breathtaking too!

Back to what I was getting at.

All the pieces I have received from Indy I have been highly impressed with, excluding some small nit picking. All except for the damned over coat and gloves. For some reason, things have changed from what he used to be selling. The glove pattern has changed, there is now a seem on the outer index finger that was never there and the color has changed. Which isn't bad, I feel it is a bit more accurate with the color, but that seam makes no sense to me. His shirt, for some reason, went from that very dark grey almost violet lined look like in the movie, to a very light blue with dark blue pattern. Actually if you were to fade the Hello Cosplay shirt, it would look exactly like the shirt I got from Indy. Now for the over coat. Now I may be going more insane here then I already am... that is why I am praying I can get my camera to work so I can get some advice from some of our experts... just to see if I really am correct on this or not. Any who, as stated earlier... the color of my Magnoli coat is just way too light. I mean it is really almost like a pale purple. The color almost looks spot on with the color of Ledger's promo shots, under certain lighting, but for the rest of the outfit... it just does not work. The coat really stands out when you put the entire uniform together. If you notice, the accurate look has gloves and pants that seem to be a tad bit lighter then the coat. With this outfit, the coat is a hell of a lot lighter then the gloves and pants. It doesn't math in uniform at all. Aside from that, some of the seem work is a bit odd. There is not that princess seam like there is on the actual real coat along the back, my cuffs are cut in a rather odd way... to which they do not hang down like the real coat. They want to stick out from the inside of my wrists rather then the bottom. If that makes any sense. The coat, as you can see is my main problem. :dry: Which sucks, because I have already paid close to $675 for it and god knows I don't want to purchase another.

Well there you have it, hope that helped, and sorry for the very long post!

And one last thing, well two things really. Some one mentioned the price of the Hello Cosplay coat going up because of the correct stitching. Really? Mine had the correct stitching, which was a year ago, was it cheaper before then?

Also, woodstro, Chris if I remember correctly, mentioned the stitching that goes all around the back of the neck being non accurate. My Magnoli coat has that stitching that goes around the back of the neck too. Did your's?
 
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And one last thing, well two things really. Some one mentioned the price of the Hello Cosplay coat going up because of the correct stitching. Really? Mine had the correct stitching, which was a year ago, was it cheaper before then?

Hellocosplay is now selling two different coats:

http://www.hellocosplay.com/purple-trench-coat-halloween-costume-p-161.html

http://www.hellocosplay.com/the-purple-wool-long-coat-p-658.html

Both of them are also available at a lower price at joker-shirt.com, which states that the more expensive coat is a newer version (which hellocosplay.com neglects to clarify). I e-mailed them to ask what the difference between the two coats were, and received the following reply:

One has the needlework on the collar,the other one doesn't. Foe other part ,they are the same. The material of the two costume actually are the same one. If you order it ,you can wear it during your daily life.No matter which website you order the costume ,you will receive the same service. You can choose by yourself.
As for the vest:

...the back of the vest is upgraded,and now it is much near to exactly the same. The picture on our website about the vest is showing an older version, the real one will be more beautiful.
(Those quotes were actually cobbled together from two separate e-mails from hellocosplay.com, but each sentence is quoted verbatim.)

Am I right in thinking that your coat is the old version?
 
Hellocosplay is now selling two different coats:

http://www.hellocosplay.com/purple-trench-coat-halloween-costume-p-161.html

http://www.hellocosplay.com/the-purple-wool-long-coat-p-658.html

Both of them are also available at a lower price at joker-shirt.com, which states that the more expensive coat is a newer version (which hellocosplay.com neglects to clarify). I e-mailed them to ask what the difference between the two coats were, and received the following reply:

As for the vest:

(Those quotes were actually cobbled together from two separate e-mails from hellocosplay.com, but each sentence is quoted verbatim.)

Am I right in thinking that your coat is the old version?


Huh. Yeah mine is the older coat, however the stitching around the collar and the lapels is actually there. Maybe... I have no idea. Lol, I mean the stitching is the exact same as the newer one, but it's the older one that I ordered. *Shrugs.* However, is it just me or does the fabric look different? By the way, I can not wait to order their classic joker. That coat looks spiffy as a super long trench with a belt.

Edit: I am a idiot. I should have read the descriptions before I posted this. I have no idea why they bsed that line with the stitching with you. XD They are two different materials, mine the original, is a cheap wool hybrid fabric where as the new one is a high quality wool. The new one also has shoulderpads, which mine is missing. Hope that shines some light on the subject! Hooza!
 
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I actually have the first coat made by Hellocosplay years ago. I always thought they had done a really good job on it. Unfortunately I bought the entire package and the pants were waaaaaaay off (they were blue with striping), the vest was made of a very cheap material as well. Was and am pretty happy with their shirt though. I also bought a blazer from an ebay tailor off of ebay, I believe the same one that Shaw mentioned. It was ok. Was a bit tight and wish it had a bit more blue in it.

Getting back to that Joker coat, it is fairly thick and durable. What is interesting is that so many years later and 135 pages later in this thread, and countless other threads, is that the coat that everyone wants has yet to be made! I'm wondering if board (or is it bored) members of this thread could perhaps compile a definitive list of what needs to be done to make a screen accurate version of this coat. I do understand that over the course of 135 pages this information exists, but perhaps with Halloween coming, a final to do list of specific details, with perhaps photo evidence could be complied. Anyways, just an open challenge to all the members on here to work together and we could finally make this happen!
 
I actually have the first coat made by Hellocosplay years ago. I always thought they had done a really good job on it. Unfortunately I bought the entire package and the pants were waaaaaaay off (they were blue with striping), the vest was made of a very cheap material as well. Was and am pretty happy with their shirt though. I also bought a blazer from an ebay tailor off of ebay, I believe the same one that Shaw mentioned. It was ok. Was a bit tight and wish it had a bit more blue in it.

Getting back to that Joker coat, it is fairly thick and durable. What is interesting is that so many years later and 135 pages later in this thread, and countless other threads, is that the coat that everyone wants has yet to be made! I'm wondering if board (or is it bored) members of this thread could perhaps compile a definitive list of what needs to be done to make a screen accurate version of this coat. I do understand that over the course of 135 pages this information exists, but perhaps with Halloween coming, a final to do list of specific details, with perhaps photo evidence could be complied. Anyways, just an open challenge to all the members on here to work together and we could finally make this happen!

Oh no! *gasp!* We have a thinker on our hands! Some one grab a chainsaw quick!

I have to agree with you, that is one hell of a good idea. Yet, I think the problem is no one has been brave enough to hand out the money to some one who, well let's say, they know nothing about when it comes to their ability to make such a masterpiece. At least that is my excuse.
 
Huh. Yeah mine is the older coat, however the stitching around the collar and the lapels is actually there. Maybe... I have no idea. Lol, I mean the stitching is the exact same as the newer one, but it's the older one that I ordered. *Shrugs.* However, is it just me or does the fabric look different? By the way, I can not wait to order their classic joker. That coat looks spiffy as a super long trench with a belt.

Edit: I am a idiot. I should have read the descriptions before I posted this. I have no idea why they bsed that line with the stitching with you. XD They are two different materials, mine the original, is a cheap wool hybrid fabric where as the new one is a high quality wool. The new one also has shoulderpads, which mine is missing. Hope that shines some light on the subject! Hooza!

Okay, first of all, I did originally mistake the "new" coat for a classic Joker jacket because the color looked so bright. However, if they were telling me the truth about the two coats being identical in every way besides the stitching on the edges, then the color difference can probably be attributed to the lighting.

I've noticed that the descriptions on the two websites (hellocosplay and joker-shirt) are neither consistent nor clear (the latter partly due to their poor command of the English language). On the front page of joker-shirt.com, both coats are listed as made out of "wool + terylene" (but then again, when you click on the links, the descriptions for both coats state that they are made out of cotton! LOL). Given the discrepancies on the website, I would tend to take what they told me personally by e-mail as the truth (why lie?). Having said that, I have no idea how the stitching has changed, since it is present in the older coat, as you stated. (I haven't seen either coat, nor decided which to order. I should probably decide soon if I want to beat the Halloween rush.)

I actually have the first coat made by Hellocosplay years ago. I always thought they had done a really good job on it. Unfortunately I bought the entire package and the pants were waaaaaaay off (they were blue with striping), the vest was made of a very cheap material as well. Was and am pretty happy with their shirt though. I also bought a blazer from an ebay tailor off of ebay, I believe the same one that Shaw mentioned. It was ok. Was a bit tight and wish it had a bit more blue in it.

Would dunking the pants in some purple dye do the trick? Their shirt has the wrong pattern (hexagons facing the wrong way) and they've stated that they will not change it any time soon, so I've pretty much decided to go with Utopia Base's shirt. For those of you who don't know, Utopia Base has updated their shirt with the correct (or more correct, at least) pattern, even though the pictures on their website still depict the older shirt. You can find pictures of their updated shirts on eBay (sold by seller gladius_mart). I e-mailed them to verify that I would be getting the same updated shirt if I ordered from their website instead of on eBay, and they said yes.

What is interesting is that so many years later and 135 pages later in this thread, and countless other threads, is that the coat that everyone wants has yet to be made!

I agree. Even if I could afford a Magnoli coat, I probably wouldn't get one because of how inaccurate it is; for that price, one would expect perfection.
 
Now for the over coat. Now I may be going more insane here then I already am... that is why I am praying I can get my camera to work so I can get some advice from some of our experts... just to see if I really am correct on this or not. Any who, as stated earlier... the color of my Magnoli coat is just way too light. I mean it is really almost like a pale purple. The color almost looks spot on with the color of Ledger's promo shots, under certain lighting, but for the rest of the outfit... it just does not work.


The trouble with it all is unless we see his suit with our eyes, we will never know the exact shades of purple. Purple is notoriously difficult to photograph and often comes out blue. I have to mix a purple up on Photoshop for my trousers and gloves to match as close to how they look in the flesh; as they look like proper blue when i photograph them. Even though they are a shade lighter than my coat and are in the dirty purple we all know so well.

You must remember the promo shots are under studio lighting, they will have also been edited in a photo package too for quality. His suit appears more vibrant to those images in the film. We just have to accept its a git to get the colours right on this one!! That is unless someone on here steals one of the suits so we can get a colour match...and that begs the question 'Why are you still on SHH Joker Costume Thread, if you posess his real suit'...:woot:

Also, i only possess gloves, vest, shirt, and trousers from Magnoli. And also a tie which i have replaced.

I dont own a blazer from the Chinese tailors Ryan, its from a place in England. Just thought i'd clear that up just incase i get questions i wont be able to answer about it.
 
My mistake about the blazer Shaw. I forgot that yesterday you mentioned you bought it elsewhere. As for the pants I received from Hellocosplay, I really can't see how dying would do the trick. I'd have to look for the pants as I think even the pinstripping was off. In any event, the pants were so bad, I don't even remember where they are.
Currently I have the (older styled)gloves, pants, tie, and new vest from Magnoli. I also got a pair of pants from Mueller as well. Tabio socks. Turnbull and asser tie,Albert Thurston braces, Utopia base hexagon shirt. Those were all the upgrades I've done so far to my original complete Joker outfit I bought from Hellocosplay years ago. Still have settled on the purple overcoat or blazer yet as I don't want to keep shelling out over and over again that kind of money to get something inaccurate and unlike alot of the really gifted members of the board, I wouldn't know how to improve them on my own. Also the fact that Magnoli (from reports I'm reading) keeps changing his product (and apparently not for the best)...worries me about making a new purchase.
One person I had been in contact with quite a few months ago, (Meuller) had been doing research on this coat in attempt to make one. I think he got busy with a lot of side projects however. Anyways, colour of purple aside for now, I think a list of specifications could still be made.
 
My mistake about the blazer Shaw. I forgot that yesterday you mentioned you bought it elsewhere.

No problem :yay:

Also, i had the trousers you mentioned a while back before my Magnoli ones, and they were utter crap. It would be useless trying to dye them as they're most likely polyester which requires 'disperse dye' instead of traditional dyes which use either salt or vinegar depending on the fibre type (plant fibre uses salt, protein fibre uses vinegar).

The problem with dyeing polyester is you need to dye it in hotter temperatures than simple boiling water, and sometimes pressure too; and this can often be a problem for the structure of the garment, especially if its dry clean only which is a big no no.
 
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Also, i had the trousers you mentioned a while back before my Magnoli ones, and they were utter crap. It would be useless trying to dye them as they're most likely polyester which requires 'disperse dye' instead of traditional dyes which use either salt or vinegar depending on the fibre type (plant fibre uses salt, protein fibre uses vinegar).

The problem with dyeing polyester is you need to dye it in hotter temperatures than simple boiling water, and sometimes pressure too; and this can often be a problem for the structure of the garment, especially if its dry clean only which is a big no no.

Hellocosplay's website currently states that the pants are made of 50% wool. Is wool dye-able? I don't know if they've changed their product since you bought them; by their own admission, they've updated their vest, at least, so it's possible that some of their other offerings may have been upgraded too.
 
Hellocosplay's website currently states that the pants are made of 50% wool. Is wool dye-able? I don't know if they've changed their product since you bought them; by their own admission, they've updated their vest, at least, so it's possible that some of their other offerings may have been upgraded too.


Well if they now have wool in them, the dye will take to them. But not as well as if they were of 100% wool ofcourse. They most certainly weren't wool when i bought them.

You must use an acid like white vinegar with wool when dyeing it instead of salt. Wool is a protein fibre like silk.
 
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Personally whe I was trying to keep my Joker costuming to a minimum, I bought one of the Grand Hertiage Joker costumes (Rubies) at a discount price, threw out everything but kept the pants. They were more of a match then the Hellocosplay version and at least they were the right colour. The vest was ok. Its a basic material vest nothing fancy but it did the trick at the time.
 
Do you mean hellocosplay or the eBay seller? If it's from hellocosplay, is it the old or new version? I'm going to guess it's the new one since it has the stitching on the lapel edges, which is (according to them) the only difference between the two (though I'm suspicious about that being the only reason for the price difference).

Its the newer hellocosplay coat:cwink:
 
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...I've pretty much decided to go with Utopia Base's shirt. For those of you who don't know, Utopia Base has updated their shirt with the correct (or more correct, at least) pattern, even though the pictures on their website still depict the older shirt. You can find pictures of their updated shirts on eBay (sold by seller gladius_mart). I e-mailed them to verify that I would be getting the same updated shirt if I ordered from their website instead of on eBay, and they said yes.

I have that shirt from utopia base and the pattern in 95% correct. it is great for its price


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i'm not sure, I don't have the shirt with me to check it. I suppose it's cotton
 
The trouble with it all is unless we see his suit with our eyes, we will never know the exact shades of purple. Purple is notoriously difficult to photograph and often comes out blue. I have to mix a purple up on Photoshop for my trousers and gloves to match as close to how they look in the flesh; as they look like proper blue when i photograph them. Even though they are a shade lighter than my coat and are in the dirty purple we all know so well.

You must remember the promo shots are under studio lighting, they will have also been edited in a photo package too for quality. His suit appears more vibrant to those images in the film. We just have to accept its a git to get the colours right on this one!! That is unless someone on here steals one of the suits so we can get a colour match...and that begs the question 'Why are you still on SHH Joker Costume Thread, if you posess his real suit'...:woot:

Also, i only possess gloves, vest, shirt, and trousers from Magnoli. And also a tie which i have replaced.

I dont own a blazer from the Chinese tailors Ryan, its from a place in England. Just thought i'd clear that up just incase i get questions i wont be able to answer about it.


You couldn't be more correct and yes, I have noticed it is really odd how the purple always turns out on camera. Speaking of seeing the costume in person, this group has claimed to seeing it up close and going over every little detail. http://cgi.ebay.com/JOKER-clown-dark-purple-jacket-coat-costume-knight-BEST-/380260617800?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0#ht_6709wt_911
Their work on Jack Sparrow is breathtaking, but when it comes to the joker coat... well, sadly, you can see for yourself.
 
So colour aside, what do we feel the overcoat should have in terms of stitching (kinds and location), back panels, lining, buttons, or any other details? I think we should exclude weathering as that would be something that the buyer would probably have to do.
 
If its cotton Joky then you'll be able to dye it a touch to knock the white down from Daz level to more like it appears on screen and in the display photo's. Synthetics are a git to dye.
Also, Joky I'd change that tie knot for a Half Windsor just as the Joker wears it.

Sadistic, i saw that ad on eBay a week ago or so and thought about how bad it was!! The audacity they have aswell to use someones picture from the Motion Picture Costume Design Expo too, like as if its their own costume on display.

On the coat. All the reference i've seen shows it has the finishing pick stitching on the lapels and down the front, on the cuffs right up to the top of the split at the back and on all the pocket edges. No pick stitch on the collar. I believe there should also be four panels (something i must correct on my own suit), and the panels should be about 2 to 3 inches shorter than the side/front panels of the coat, depending on the overall size of the coat.

I have a website who has the same style of frock coat buttons as used on the Joker coat for sale, although you will have to spray them black as they are dark blue in colour. PM me for details.
 
Thanks for supplying the info Shaw, much appreciated as usual.
Not that its any reason to buy that coat from ebay, but I remember the seller selling those coat either at or above magnoli's prices a few years ago. Times have changed.
 
If its cotton Joky then you'll be able to dye it a touch to knock the white down from Daz level to more like it appears on screen and in the display photo's. Synthetics are a git to dye.
Also, Joky I'd change that tie knot for a Half Windsor just as the Joker wears it.

Sadistic, i saw that ad on eBay a week ago or so and thought about how bad it was!! The audacity they have aswell to use someones picture from the Motion Picture Costume Design Expo too, like as if its their own costume on display.

On the coat. All the reference i've seen shows it has the finishing pick stitching on the lapels and down the front, on the cuffs right up to the top of the split at the back and on all the pocket edges. No pick stitch on the collar. I believe there should also be four panels (something i must correct on my own suit), and the panels should be about 2 to 3 inches shorter than the side/front panels of the coat, depending on the overall size of the coat.

I have a website who has the same style of frock coat buttons as used on the Joker coat for sale, although you will have to spray them black as they are dark blue in colour. PM me for details.

Chris, your attention to detail marvels me. I want to cross ocean just to shake your hand.

Ryan, also on top of what chris has stated, the seams on the back of the coat for the panels, are to my understanding, called princess seams. They have that sliming curve to them. Also something I have noticed, that no one's coat seems to do, is that whole tapered look on the back as well, the way the fabric sort of flows out and curves. That is a terrible job in explaining. Chris what would you call that? I am sure you know what I am talking about.:woot:

Edit: On a side note Chris, what do you think would be the dangers of attempting to dye the entire Magnol overcoat? Do you think it could be done?
 
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Thanks Sadistic, i'm chuffed :)

These pictures might help explain a little better what you're getting at, since i dont know the correct 'haberdashery terminology' lol. Although i do know that to bring a jacket in at the back, a tailor skillfully adds what they call 'darts' where they pinch the material at the waist and sew it together to bring it in.

Here are the pics, ironically one of them is from an old Magnoli coat bashing session about a year and a half ago. I remember saving it for future reference.

coattails.jpg


JHQ.jpg


Note: In the first picture, the coat has been pushed back under the arms of the display mannequin on the left in order to show the vest and blazer detail when viewing from the front. This is not how the coat is all the time, as the second (cheesy) picture illustrates.

The coat i have looks like that from the side, although the rear panel needs splitting and shortening as mentioned before.

I hope that helps???

Also, Sadistic if the coat you want to dye has any wool content then do not under any circumstances use hot or even warm water in the dye bath. The result will be a coat large enough for a child, whilst the lining will stay the original size. However, it will hopefully be the correct colour!!! .

And, do not stirr or agitate wool excessively, it will cause the air in the fibres which give wool its springyness to escape also causing shrinkage (although it happens more so when agitated in warm water).

I dyed my wool vest in cold water, firstly soaking it gradually to introduce it to moisture before dying to limit any form of shrinkage.

:)

Edit: I perhaps wouldn't dye the Magnoli coat. If you look at the top pic, the colour seems very similar, even after factoring the colour debate i mentioned earlier. It almost wouldn't be worth potentially drowning the best part of $600 in a bath of blue and red dye...
 
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Thanks Sadistic, i'm chuffed :)

These pictures might help explain a little better what you're getting at, since i dont know the correct 'haberdashery terminology' lol. Although i do know that to bring a jacket in at the back, a tailor skillfully adds what they call 'darts' where they pinch the material at the waist and sew it together to bring it in.

Here are the pics, ironically one of them is from an old Magnoli coat bashing session about a year and a half ago. I remember saving it for future reference.

coattails.jpg


JHQ.jpg


Note: In the first picture, the coat has been pushed back under the arms of the display mannequin on the left in order to show the vest and blazer detail when viewing from the front. This is not how the coat is all the time, as the second (cheesy) picture illustrates.

The coat i have looks like that from the side, although the rear panel needs splitting and shortening as mentioned before.

I hope that helps???

Also, Sadistic if the coat you want to dye has any wool content then do not under any circumstances use hot or even warm water in the dye bath. The result will be a coat large enough for a child, whilst the lining will stay the original size. However, it will hopefully be the correct colour!!! .

And, do not stirr or agitate wool excessively, it will cause the air in the fibres which give wool its springyness to escape also causing shrinkage (although it happens more so when agitated in warm water).

I dyed my wool vest in cold water, firstly soaking it gradually to introduce it to moisture before dying to limit any form of shrinkage.

:)

Edit: I perhaps wouldn't dye the Magnoli coat. If you look at the top pic, the colour seems very similar, even after factoring the colour debate i mentioned earlier. It almost wouldn't be worth potentially drowning the best part of $600 in a bath of blue and red dye...

First off, god I have always loathed that Harley Quinn.

Now that that is out of the way... Yes that was my biggest fear. God knows I do not want to sink any more money then what I already have. I mean three years ago I would have already considered myself crazy over this costume endeavor. Well at least I fit in right? XD I mean the magnoli coat, aside from everything we have stated, is really a beautiful coat. I just wish it had been a bit more accurate for the price. Either way I am going to stick with it. My biggest fear is the weathering; like if the indian ink is going to stand out way too much with the light color. Also I am thinking about seeing if I can get a pair of gloves from the original material Indy's people used. I think that might help with the contrast as well. Aside from that, I think the pants will fade down a bit once I weather them up a tad. Soon hopefully either I, or some one on here, shall discover some one who can take what we have here and use it to make the perfect coat. Until then, I shall make due I suppose. Going to have to do this all over again in a year any way thanks to weight lose. Here's hoping at least. Well, for the weight lose, hopefully I can get all this stuff adjusted once I hit 190.
 
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