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we also learn that, because Peter and MJ never made the deal with Mephisto (although, they still must have because otherwise how would Mephisto have magically let Electro's fat slob of stooge out of the cop car which lead to Peter and MJ not getting married?), Aunt May was saved after she flatlined...by Peter performing CPR on her.

Um...okay...I guess this means:

1. It didn't matter whether or not Peter and MJ would have made the deal or not, because since Peter was "destined" to save his Aunt after returning to the hospital after seeing Dr. Strange. Thus underscoring that Mephsito is a colossal d***.

2. As other reviews elsewhere have pointed out, Aunt May must have an adamantium-laced skeleton like Wolverine in order for her not being crushed by Peter's spider-strength powered chest compressions.

3. Just by the mere fact Peter saved Aunt May through mere CPR--despite One More Day stressing over and over again that no medical science or magic could save her from dying from a gunshot wound--it pretty much invalidates the entire reason why "One More Day" had to take place.

4. It's magic!

Brain exploding in three...two...one...BOOM!

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I think you misunderstood that scene with Peter saving Aunt May. I believe he ONLY had the power to do that BECAUSE of the deal with Mephisto. It's also seems as if that happened the exact same time that they made the deal with him in the first place. If Peter still gave her that cpr without the deal, I believe she would've died.
 
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I do think he should have developed beyond the Lee/Ditko years, I would have preferred had it been in concert with the interesting character they established rather than what in fact happened with it. And sure, they simply re-wrote MJ to serve a particular purpose. It's not like her character organically "evolved"--they just re-wrote her. But, its hard to maintain any arc over 48 years. I'm sure he'll be different 48 years from now than he is today.
 
I understand. And like I implied in my take on this issue, one of the positive aspects about this story was MJ
coming to the realization of how unfair, selfish, and wrong it is of her to demand that Peter must give up being Spider-Man for them to be together, comparing to, as she said, "like asking me to stop loving you." It just underscores not only how deep their love for each other actually is, but that these two do need each other. I would even argue that the framing device of this story--Peter and MJ's conversation in his apartment during the present--also indicates this. After all, just the fact that MJ wants to remain friends with Peter and wants to still be part of his life despite being his ex and thinking they can't be a couple anymore suggests there is some of that love and need which still remains. I just didn't exactly buy the rationale behind why she wouldn't marry Peter.

I think it's just that she realized she doesn't have to be married to him to love him and live with him.
The thing I don't get is why Peter wouldn't at least try to quit. He's vowed to quit, and tried, many many times. And then he misses his wedding day, and after a couple days of not talking to MJ he is a complete and utter mess. I am shocked he wouldn't even toy with the though of quitting Spider-Man.
 
I think you misunderstood that scene with Peter saving Aunt May. I believe he ONLY had the power to do that BECAUSE of the deal with Mephisto. It's also seems as if that happened the exact same time that they made the deal with him in the first place. If Peter still gave her that cpr without the deal, I believe she would've died.

That's possible. I think there really should have been a hint that it was Mephisto though. Like when the red pigeon came in the cop car and let that guy go.

I like iloveclones take on it though. Maybe the point is is that he could have brought her back, and Peter and MJ should not have made the deal with Mephisto.
 
I haven't bought the second issue. I got the first after only dipping in and out of ASM for the last few years simply because of "the promised answers". But given how wishy washy the first issue seemed to me, it now feels like the entire arc is simply damage control for a controversial move rather than a well told, well conceived story.

And then it occurred to me that from my point of view it really doesn't matter what answer is given for the method by which the marriage never happened, or what continuity changes that mechanism affects. Because the how it happened still does not explain the why it had to happen satisfactorily enough to be able to enjoy the regressed Peter Parker that now graces the pages. The answers of how are not going to bring me back into the fold, no matter how acceptable they might be. I do not relate to this Parker, I do not find a common man element in him any longer. If he were in college, then sure. If Aunt May were dead and he had never picked himself up from that, then maybe. But I cannot respect or relate to him while he persists in being only responsible as Spider-Man, and essentially a late 20's (whatever way you cut the MU sliding timeline, that's around the age he is now) bum. The not being able to find a job, not being able to keep a job, or a date. Not being able to make rent or be on time for anything - hilarious back in the 60's and 70's. Fitting for a college student or finding his feet 22yr old. But not for a 27ish yr old - its more pitiful. And I don't like to pity heroes.
 
I love the "I can't relate to THIS Peter Parker" comments... :woot: :woot: :woot:

It's just too laughable to warrant explanations...

:yay:
 
I think more specifically I mean that while part of the appeal of Peter Parker has always been how he isn't perfect like the archetype superhero, and that he can't catch a break half the time; it has also been that in addition to those characteristics he is the kind of person Joe Public can relate to because the personal things he goes through are the same kinds of things many young men do. The core of Peter is something I think has been talked about to death. But I do believe that in order for him to remain a relate-able yet slightly enviable character, he needs to progress through life in much the same way that most of us aspire to. And so to be like he is written now is not a character I would want to identify with any longer.
 
I'm curious to see what people are going to say when Pete "progresses" as people like to say. It seems like Dan the Man wants to get Pete a job, and get his professional life on track. I'd imagine there are going to be screams from people saying he's not relatable anymore. Bank on it. I called it here.
 
I'm curious to see what people are going to say when Pete "progresses" as people like to say. It seems like Dan the Man wants to get Pete a job, and get his professional life on track. I'd imagine there are going to be screams from people saying he's not relatable anymore. Bank on it. I called it here.

People are already saying that. I've seen a lot of talk about this "manifesto" that was done where Peter Parker has to stay a single, jobless loser and that Quesada is back pedaling because of the "lower sales".

It's not back pedaling if Peter Parker is still single.
 
I'm curious to see what people are going to say when Pete "progresses" as people like to say. It seems like Dan the Man wants to get Pete a job, and get his professional life on track. I'd imagine there are going to be screams from people saying he's not relatable anymore. Bank on it. I called it here.

I'm looking forward to the new direction. Parker as a loser has been over done ad nauseum. I understand Spidey getting in the way of Parker's postgrad studies and all that, but there was really no reason to drop the idea of Parker being brilliant. I'm not a JMS fan, but one thing I liked was Parker becoming a teacher for a while, at least that was something progressive that made some sense.

I'm waiting for OMIT to be over, I"m sort of curious, but we all know the reason for this story: to straighten out the timeline and so that they can lead Spidey into a new direction. I'd be really surprised if OMIT turns up anything interesting to be honest.

My one concern now is baby May. However Marvel wants to go with it is fine by me. Just don't leave us hanging! Wrap it up quickly or the Clone Saga becomes, god help us, even more complicated.
 
One thing I've never understood is the seeming impossibility of Peter to get a research job. He had that one with Tricorp or something, but thats about it. Working for a commerical company wouldnt work and yes he would get fired in no time for ducking out as much as he does. But if he were a researcher in academia, then he would have more freedom, be able to work to his own timetable, and as long as he was productive he would keep his job.
 
In my opinion, and it's a tad drunky for a Friday afternoon.... ya gotta love unemplyment...lol... the relatability of Peter Parker is the simple fact that no matter how many times that ****er gets kicked in the nuts, he stands up again knowing that he's going to get kicked in the nuts again... we all want to aspire to be that guy that can keep going in spite of the inevitable kick in the nuts...

And that's all I'm going to say about that...

:yay:
 
Man, I wish I was unemployed and trashed. In fact, I think I may leave work early....
 
Oh, and it may be that I haven't started drinking yet, but I can't recall ever aspiring to being kicked in the nuts.......but ask me again in a few hours.....
 
You don't aspire to being kicked in the balls.... you just know it's gonna happen... :o

:yay:
 
I think it's just that she realized she doesn't have to be married to him to love him and live with him.
The thing I don't get is why Peter wouldn't at least try to quit. He's vowed to quit, and tried, many many times. And then he misses his wedding day, and after a couple days of not talking to MJ he is a complete and utter mess. I am shocked he wouldn't even toy with the though of quitting Spider-Man.

And that's just it: We also have been told that since Peter and MJ stayed together anyway, all the stories leading up to One More Day happened pretty much the same way, right? And we now know Mary Jane said that as long as Peter is Spider-Man, they shouldn't have kids, and if they can't have kids, then there's no reason to get married according to her.

Well then, during that time in which Peter and MJ were together, Peter quit being Spider-Man, not once, but TWICE.

First was during the Clone Saga when he passed on the mantle to Ben Reilly (although that was because MJ was also pregnant, which, as I mentioned in an earlier post, is now completely in doubt), and the other time at the end of "The Final Chapter" and right before the Howard Mackie/John Byrne reboot. Heck, Peter BURNED his costume during each of those times, saying he was done being Spider-Man. So I guess, on both of those occasions, Peter and MJ had enough of an opportunity to go ahead and get married and start raising a family since Peter, temporarily anyway, wasn't Spider-Man anymore.
 
Maybe we can assume that when they moved to Portland and have their family, they would get married...

:yay:
 
I donno. I think all this stuff works, really. All the stories still happened. They just weren't married. They were still together. But not married.
 
WAIT!!!!
What about the "100 days" time-span that was between OMD and BND?
didn't he quit then too?
Will that be addressed in the next 2 issues of OMIT?
 
WAIT!!!!
What about the "100 days" time-span that was between OMD and BND?
didn't he quit then too?
Will that be addressed in the next 2 issues of OMIT?

He didn't quit.... he just laid low to avoid the SHRA and all that... he had a lot of heat on him during that time...
 
well, a little over 3 months he was gone, he wasn't Spider-Man so MJ should've been happy... When in rellation to the 100 missing days did they actually split up..?
 
I guess we'll see what happens... I would think that something occured shortly after Back in Black that drove MJ away... and Peter was probably too busy trying to make his identity secret again to focus his attention to her...

:huh: :huh: :huh:
 
I love the "I can't relate to THIS Peter Parker" comments... :woot: :woot: :woot:

It's just too laughable to warrant explanations...

:yay:

well that's not my argument. I could care less what fictional characters I can relate to as long as Im entertained. However ths Brand New Day garbage has only been entertaining, because it's been too laughable to warrant buying
 

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