Oh, and I'm definitely pro-BND. I didn't love the mystical mumbo-jumbo that ended the marriage--I always thought that MJ should have gotten hit by a car or had some other decidedly non-super-hero-related demise. I thought that would have carried greated emotional weight than the business with Mephisto. I disliked the Other and the Totem, and all the other spider-mysticism.
I actually thought Pete's marriage to MJ was a far greater betrayal to my vision of the character than the alleged "deal." The specter of Spider-Man, Pete's responsibility should have kept him apart from marriage. He had a choice to use his powers and not live a fully "normal" life, or renounce those powers for a regular life. The tension of those choices provided a great deal of interest for me, and shaped Pete's character. Once he "had it all," (uper hero, married to a piping hot model actress) I just thought it was dull. Marvel couldn't age him or let him have kids (well, it COULD do that, but for economic reasons, there's no way it WOULD), so we'd see Pete stuck forever in marrage--a marriage which had gotten pretty stale because Pete and MJ couldn't really do the things normal married people do (age, have kids, etc).
With respect to Mephisto, however, Pete was trying to make things right--things he believed HE had screwed up. And he was willing to sacrifice something dear to him--his love for Gwen--erm, MJ--to save his Aunt. Yet, even so, he wouldn't do it without MJ's acquiescense. So, to me at least, that's a heroic act, even if it might have been a "bad choice." That is at least in character in a way his decision to marry MJ was not. Not to mention just what MJ represented--the quintessential party-girl, a model/actress, not even a fellow science student (Gwen) or a person of more humble origins and work (Betty or Liz). But hey, I understand others disagree with that view. It's just how I see it. So, I'm pro-BND, but I wish they had ended the marriage differently. If there had been an internet back when Pete got married, the younger version of myself probably would have been flaming these boards too.
I actually thought Pete's marriage to MJ was a far greater betrayal to my vision of the character than the alleged "deal." The specter of Spider-Man, Pete's responsibility should have kept him apart from marriage. He had a choice to use his powers and not live a fully "normal" life, or renounce those powers for a regular life. The tension of those choices provided a great deal of interest for me, and shaped Pete's character. Once he "had it all," (uper hero, married to a piping hot model actress) I just thought it was dull. Marvel couldn't age him or let him have kids (well, it COULD do that, but for economic reasons, there's no way it WOULD), so we'd see Pete stuck forever in marrage--a marriage which had gotten pretty stale because Pete and MJ couldn't really do the things normal married people do (age, have kids, etc).
With respect to Mephisto, however, Pete was trying to make things right--things he believed HE had screwed up. And he was willing to sacrifice something dear to him--his love for Gwen--erm, MJ--to save his Aunt. Yet, even so, he wouldn't do it without MJ's acquiescense. So, to me at least, that's a heroic act, even if it might have been a "bad choice." That is at least in character in a way his decision to marry MJ was not. Not to mention just what MJ represented--the quintessential party-girl, a model/actress, not even a fellow science student (Gwen) or a person of more humble origins and work (Betty or Liz). But hey, I understand others disagree with that view. It's just how I see it. So, I'm pro-BND, but I wish they had ended the marriage differently. If there had been an internet back when Pete got married, the younger version of myself probably would have been flaming these boards too.
.The whole point of OMD was that Mephisto HATED the love that MJ and Peter had for each other. To break that up was all the satisfaction M was looking for. Again, I agree with Meehaul, it was not the smartest decision but it was one done out of love for his wife and his aunt(mother).It was an act of desperation.As far as my statement- it was made to draw a distinct line between single men and how they think and married men and how WE think.You can substitute "basement" with any other room in the house you like
.Again, OMIT is an attempt at answering the questions brought about as the result of OMD. If you start from the premise that OMD was (in your words) CRAP.Then OMIT was CRAP before you ever picked up the book.
But still, if you really wanted to enjoy OMIT, you would have to accept OMIT Chapter One Something Old, as the start of filling in the gaps of OMD.I've always wondered why folks were willing to accept Loki playing it straight and honoring his debt to Spider-Man but not being able to deal with Mephisto who has a longer history with Spidey than Loki and a much greater reason to HATE him.You say AWFUL! what parts of the story so far are you saying don't fit? Pete and MJ almost got married in 1987. Did they have hand size cell phones back then?
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