The Official Recommendations Thread

[Ben Urich]

Mark Millar is a ****ing hack. Ultimates thrives purely on shock value, Marvel Knights Spider-Man was unreadable and Trouble is arguably the worst comic ever written. The only readable work from his name was Chosen.
Overrated and untalented.

 

[GNR]

Thought I'd do a little summary of the list Eli posted.

Everything from this thread I have or haved checked out:
7-Daredevil
14-Superman: Red Son
18-Kingdom Come
19-Spider-Man/Human Torch
27-Young Avengers
28-Marvels
61-JLA: Year One
68-Top Ten
69-Batman: The Dark Knight Returns
76-DC: The New Frontier
77-Watchmen
81-Astro City
82-Batman: The Long Halloween
85-Ultimates
96-Batman: Year One
107-The Golden Age
108-Wolverine: Enemy of the State

Stuff from this thread I'm going to check out:
36-Green Arrow
37-Green Lantern/Green Arrow
74-Arkham Asylum
91-The Ring, the Arrow, and the Bat


Quiver is deifnitely at the top of my list right now.
Are the GL/GA trades by Adams readable though?I don't usually go back that far because I can't stand alot of the cheesy dialogue.I love these 2 characters though so I'm torn.
Asylum has some sweet ass art.One of the trades I always glance at in my shop.(damn monthlies)
That last trade sounds awesome,but is it out of print?Those are 3 of my fav DC peeps so it sounds very inticing.

 

[GNR]

Mark Millar is a ****ing hack. Ultimates thrives purely on shock value, Marvel Knights Spider-Man was unreadable and Trouble is arguably the worst comic ever written. The only readable work from his name was Chosen.
Overrated and untalented.

Thanks for the laugh.I needed it.t:

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I dont believe I called him a bad writer, I said his work presents a pretentious and holier than thou attitude. Like Ultimates is really "Mark Millar hates America". Wanted just represented a trend within his writing which is pretty much anti-establishment hidden within big explosions and **** and ass. Its him trying to do something deep and important, and failing miserably doing it.

Jesus Christ, I just love it when people say you hate the country if you hate the people running it and what they're doing.

The Ultimates is a superhero political thriller. It deals with issues going on today if the superheroes we read about existed. I can see these kinds of things happening if we had guys like Captain America and Iron Man in our world.

And I love how you say that it's just explosions with **** and ass--when we don't see any in the story. At all.

To me, Wanted was a story about a boy turning into a man...a twisted one filled with guns and gore. To best describe it would be "Fight Club with supervillians in it."

 

[Elijya]

Are the GL/GA trades by Adams readable though?I don't usually go back that far because I can't stand alot of the cheesy dialogue.I love these 2 characters though so I'm torn

Neither can I, but it's one of the few peices from greater than 20 years ago that can still stand up for me.

see if you can find the colected edition in a store, and read the fiirst couple of pages, see if you can make it through

 

[Ben Urich]

Thanks for the laugh.I needed it.t:

Hahaha, your username is pretty ****ing funny too, punchy.

 

[GNR]

Hahaha, your username is pretty ****ing funny too, punchy.

Oh god,I'm hurt,you used an obscenity against me.

 

[GNR]

Neither can I, but it's one of the few peices from greater than 20 years ago that can still stand up for me.

see if you can find the colected edition in a store, and read the fiirst couple of pages, see if you can make it through

Well dang,if you liked it,chances are I will since you're always right.

 

[The Hero]

I would be tempted to write off Millar as a total hack if it weren't for The Ultimates,which is the kind of book Millar writes best: pure popcorn entertainment with no redeeming social value. That said, the guy is seriously ****ed in the head (and not in the usual good way).This is the man who actually thought it was essential to the Spider-Man mythos that Peter be an attempted abortion spawned from an orgy between Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and the rest of the Parker family. Not to mention that the whole obsession with people threatening to tear each other's eyes out makes me wonder if he's been to therapy.

 

[Elijya]

Well dang,if you liked it,chances are I will since you're always right.

thanks, but my opinion is just my own I will say I've never brought myself to RE-read it since I went through it a few years ago, and I primarily respect it because I know the history and relevence, what those stories meant at the time they came out, and plus I love the characters, but the stories themselves are still very 1970

 

[GNR]

I would be tempted to write off Millar as a total hack if it weren't for The Ultimates,which is the kind of book Millar writes best: pure popcorn entertainment with no redeeming social value. That said, the guy is seriously ****ed in the head (and not in the usual good way).This is the man who actually thought it was essential to the Spider-Man mythos that Peter be an attempted abortion spawned from an orgy between Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and the rest of the Parker family. Not to mention that the whole obsession with people threatening to tear each other's eyes out makes me wonder if he's been to therapy.

I'm pretty sure he was joking about that.

And yes,Mark is a lunatic and I love it.

 

[The Hero]

I'm pretty sure he was joking about that.

Which part?

 

[hippy fascist]

slash is awesome, but guns and roses... not so much.

Axl's a rascist redneck and what the **** is this supposed to be...

yeah!!!! That's beats a guy who is probably the greatest example of a rock star that has ever walked the earth. Let's replace slash with a kabuki dude with a kfc bucket on his head!

GNR, if you like guns and roses have you checked out the darkness? They are teh awesomeness!

 

[The Question]

I would be tempted to write off Millar as a total hack if it weren't for The Ultimates,which is the kind of book Millar writes best: pure popcorn entertainment with no redeeming social value. That said, the guy is seriously ****ed in the head (and not in the usual good way).This is the man who actually thought it was essential to the Spider-Man mythos that Peter be an attempted abortion spawned from an orgy between Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and the rest of the Parker family. Not to mention that the whole obsession with people threatening to tear each other's eyes out makes me wonder if he's been to therapy.

Dude, why is everyone forgeting Red Son?

 

[The Hero]

Dude, why is everyone forgeting Red Son?

Damn,I forgot all about that one.I'll refrain from any more criticism of Millar until I read it.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I would be tempted to write off Millar as a total hack if it weren't for The Ultimates,which is the kind of book Millar writes best: pure popcorn entertainment with no redeeming social value. That said, the guy is seriously ****ed in the head (and not in the usual good way).This is the man who actually thought it was essential to the Spider-Man mythos that Peter be an attempted abortion spawned from an orgy between Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and the rest of the Parker family. Not to mention that the whole obsession with people threatening to tear each other's eyes out makes me wonder if he's been to therapy.

Actually, Trouble was all Quesada's idea--Millar just wrote the words. If there's anyone to blame for the bastardization (damn near literary, in this case) of Spider-Man, it's yet another one to ole' Joe.

 

[The Hero]

Actually, Trouble was all Quesada's idea--Millar just wrote the words. If there's anyone to blame for the bastardization (damn near literary, in this case) of Spider-Man, it's yet another one to ole' Joe.

It was also his idea that Norman be the father of Gwen's twins. In JMS's original plan the kids were Peter's. I'm not entirely sure which direction would have worked better.

 

[Ben Urich]

Oh god,I'm hurt,you used an obscenity against me.

Why don't you go read one of your ****ty Millar books?
Fanboy.

 

[Darthphere]

Actually, Trouble was all Quesada's idea--Millar just wrote the words. If there's anyone to blame for the bastardization (damn near literary, in this case) of Spider-Man, it's yet another one to ole' Joe.

Sorry, but no. I realized after defending Beechen for the Cassandra thing I was wrong all along. You can always say "No".

 

[Mr. Green]

slash is awesome, but guns and roses... not so much.

Axl's a rascist redneck and what the **** is this supposed to be...

yeah!!!! That's beats a guy who is probably the greatest example of a rock star that has ever walked the earth. Let's replace slash with a kabuki dude with a kfc bucket on his head!

GNR, if you like guns and roses have you checked out the darkness? They are teh awesomeness!

Buckethead is a WAY better guitar player than Slash. He can shred way better and writes way better stuff than the crap that Slash has been writing lately with Velvet Revolver. You should actually try LISTENING to him instead of judging his appearance. That's the key to MUSIC. LISTENING. NOT LOOKING.

And The Darkness is just rips off AC/DC.

 

[Mr. Green]

Mark Millar is a ****ing hack. Ultimates thrives purely on shock value, Marvel Knights Spider-Man was unreadable and Trouble is arguably the worst comic ever written. The only readable work from his name was Chosen.
Overrated and untalented.

That is pretty ridiculous. The Ultimates has a lot more to it than shock value, but you don't even read it so...

 

[Darthphere]

That is pretty ridiculous. The Ultimates has a lot more to it than shock value, but you don't even read it so...

Yeah, I hate America!

 

[Anubis]

Actually, it's more like if you read Ultimates, then you hate America.

 

[Darthphere]

That too.

 

[Not Jake]

Oh shut up you guys. If you're going to hate on Millar hate on him for his general crappiness as a writer, like I do. Don't be all Millar hates America. As if you guys are super-patriots. I don't like America. I don't hate it either. It's just where I have always been. I don't appreciate it, and I've seen those infomercials about starving AIDS kids in Africa, and that doesn't make me appreciate America anymore. I just don't really care about it that much, and the only reason I vote is to prevent another human as verbally incompetent as our president from becoming the head of our "great nation". I don't hate America, but I don't love it either, and I certainly don't condemn art for its political stance.

Millar sucks, with occasional bursts of entertaining reading (Wolverine). Yeah, The Ultimates vol 1 was pretty decent too. Not good enough for me to warrant buying vol 2's five issues per year, but I might pick it up in trade.