The Official SDCC Coverage Thread

[Matt]

Matt, it looks like you should take your own advice because there was nothing about Pickle's post that has warranted this response.

What response? I explained what I meant and told him not be so sensetive and defensive. Not as if I insulted his mother or something.

 

[Pickle-El]

You actually believe they didn't know what Singer was doing from November 2004 to June 2006? Now, that's funny....

You're right nothing has been approved. But a number was still thrown out in the middle of this whole 'If there's a sequel' fiasco. Which, your side of the fence will ignore in favor of 'Why they should remove Singer and start anew' posts.

You're speculation is no more relevant than mine, quit acting like you know what's going on more than anyone else.

 

[Naite22]

That's a good point. 175 Million only seems low because of the previous films 204 Million budget (which I think was way too high), but it's actually a pretty solid budget for movies of this type.

It's a VERY solid budget!
Here's my bet! The next superman movie will LOOK a lot more expensive than SR did... They know that the main thing will be incorporating a hell of a lot more action, and with supervillains this time around, it shouldn't be a problem! They can make it look absolutely HUUUUGE if they're smart about it! Cut a wee bit down on the fancy sets, to start with! People can say what they want about a director like Michael Bay... But just look at what he did with a budget of 130mill within TransFormers!... Each of the Lord of the Rings movies costs 150mill... The sequel to Superman Returns will cost 175mill (maybe a bit more, who knows). That's 25mill MORE than one of the LOTR's movies! And remembering what was seen in Return of the King, the Supes-sequel could look WIIILD! Depends on how they choose to spend the money they're given!

 

[Pickle-El]

Matt, it looks like you should take your own advice because there was nothing about Pickle's post that has warranted this response.

Don't worry about it, somehow I tend to make that 'side' of the argument angry for some reason....it's not like I'm making fun of his avatar or anything.

 

[Matt]

You actually believe they didn't know what Singer was doing from November 2004 to June 2006? Now, that's funny....

Of course not, but they weren't exactly demanding like most studios, hell, I don't think Warners tried to exercise any control over the movie.

You're right nothing has been approved. But a number was still thrown out in the middle of this whole 'If there's a sequel' fiasco. Which, your side of the fence will ignore in favor of 'Why they should remove Singer and start anew' posts.

You're speculation is no more relevant than mine, quit acting like you know what's going on more than anyone else.

I never said I did. In fact, I constantly say quite the opposite. That no one knows what is going on so we should all probably just shut up to avoid eating our words.

 

[Pickle-El]

 

[GreenKToo]

yep, nobody knows whats gonna happen.

Personally, my money is on a J.L. film happening instead, but if we got a S.R. sequel, that would be great too.

 

[Naite22]

^ We'll get both!!! at some point... but no way will a JL movie happen BEFORE we see at least another superman sequel... and I'm hoping to see the sequel in 2009, just the rest.

 

[Matt]

^ We'll get both!!! at some point... but no way will a JL movie happen BEFORE we see at least another superman sequel... and I'm hoping to see the sequel in 2009, just the rest.

Well, being as Warners commissioned a script for JLA, they must atleast entertaining the idea, so there clearly is some chance it will happen before SR2.

 

[Qwerty©]

^ We'll get both!!! at some point... but no way will a JL movie happen BEFORE we see at least another superman sequel... and I'm hoping to see the sequel in 2009, just the rest.

I have my doubts. Anything can happen at this point. WB is waiting for something to help them make their decision... but what is it?

 

[Naite22]

^... I hope not... not if its at the expense of not seeing a supes sequel in 2009. I WANT THAT!!!

 

[Lighthouse]

I have my doubts. Anything can happen at this point. WB is waiting for something to help them make their decision... but what is it?

Insurance. They want something to make sure there investment is going to see returns. That could be an amazing script, or possibly really big casting for the new villian. If Singer could cast someone like Tom Cruise as Brainiac, then I think they'd greenlight it in no time. (I'm not saying I want Tom Cruise in the movie, I was just using him as an example because he's working with Singer right now).

 

[Matt]

I have my doubts. Anything can happen at this point. WB is waiting for something to help them make their decision... but what is it?

My money is honestly on the buzz created by The Incredible Hulk. Like it or not, the two scenarios are very very comprable. We will likely see a trailer either in the winter or at least with the super bowl. They will be able to do market studies, pick up on the buzz created by it, etc. Then they will be able to make their call with plenty of time to get either a late summer or winter release in 2009.

 

[Qwerty©]

Insurance. They want something to make sure there investment is going to see returns. That could be an amazing script, or possibly really big casting for the new villian. If Singer could cast someone like Tom Cruise as Brainiac, then I think they'd greenlight it in no time. (I'm not saying I want Tom Cruise in the movie, I was just using him as an example because he's working with Singer right now).

Obviously. But what is this insurance? WB likes Singers ideas, because they greenlit SR and entrusted him with 200 million. So they aren't waiting for Singer to dazzle them. They were pleased with JLA's script.. but there has been no development. So what is stopping them from choosing one? Obviously they are waiting for something else to show them which will be more profitable.

 

[GreenKToo]

Well, being as Warners commissioned a script for JLA, they must atleast entertaining the idea, so there clearly is some chance it will happen before SR2.

thats my point. All i'm saying is that for the guys that have their hearts set on a S.R. sequel, you need to at least prepare for the possibility that a J.L. film *MAY* happen instead.

 

[Qwerty©]

My money is honestly on the buzz created by The Incredible Hulk. Like it or not, the two scenarios are very very comprable. We will likely see a trailer either in the winter or at least with the super bowl. They will be able to do market studies, pick up on the buzz created by it, etc. Then they will be able to make their call with plenty of time to get either a late summer or winter release in 2009.

So if The Incredible Hulk is well received, then we might get a Superman reboot which promises more action. If we are lucky, we'll get a film that pleases everyone, but there is a risk of the film being terrible, but that's true for all movies.

However, lets say a Hulk reboot is not well received.. would we get a sequel instead? Will Justice League be put in production? Or worst case scenario.. nothing at all?

 

[Qwerty©]

thats my point. All i'm saying is that for the guys that have their hearts set on a S.R. sequel, you need to at least prepare for the possibility that a J.L. film *MAY* happen instead.

A JL fim with Superman in it is better than nothing. At least there is a chance Routh could reprise his role.

 

[GreenKToo]

I must say that the Hulk concept art looks miles better than the Hulk did in the first film, IMHO.
Its a good start, no doubt.

 

[Matt]

So if The Incredible Hulk is well received, then we might get a Superman reboot which promises more action. If we are lucky, we'll get a film that pleases everyone, but there is a risk of the film being terrible, but that's true for all movies.

However, lets say a Hulk reboot is not well received.. would we get a sequel instead? Will Justice League be put in production? Or worst case scenario.. nothing at all?

Thats the million dollar question, isn't it? What if market studies reveal there is practically no interest among the general public in seeing another Hulk movie so soon and they are still feeling sour from Ang Lee's? Then what? Probably more market studies, see what the public wants, if Singer can deliver it, if JLA can deliver it, etc. I personally think they'd go with an action packed Justice League movie, because even though there would be a huge risk involved (just as there would be with a reboot or SR2)...if it doesn't pay off, they have at least laid down the ground work for 3 or 4 smaller budget spin-off movies. Where as if SR2 or a reboot doesn't pay off, they are pretty much just S.O.O.L.

 

[Crook]

So if The Incredible Hulk is well received, then we might get a Superman reboot which promises more action. If we are lucky, we'll get a film that pleases everyone, but there is a risk of the film being terrible, but that's true for all movies.

However, lets say a Hulk reboot is not well received.. would we get a sequel instead? Will Justice League be put in production? Or worst case scenario.. nothing at all?

Hopefully the first scenario.

I wasn't thrilled with it at first, but they do have a great cast. And I was ecstatic when Norton has script reigns, that can only mean good. I haven't seen one bad movie this guy has been in, so maybe WB will wisen up once Hulk get's some buzz.

My only real fear, is that ILM isn't doing the effects. Imo they did a great job with the first film, and are undoubtedly the pioneer for groundbreaking sfx. Not sure if a second/third-tier effects company can surpass that, or even come up to par with the first film's cgi.

 

[Qwerty©]

I wasn't thrilled with it at first, but they do have a great cast. And I was ecstatic when Norton has script reigns, that can only mean good. I haven't seen one bad movie this guy has been in, so maybe WB will wisen up once Hulk get's some buzz.

That's a point.. If Hulk is well received due to Edward Norton, I hope WB doesn't take it the wrong way and shoehorn big names into a Superman reboot.. I don't want to see someone like Tom Cruise as Superman.

 

[Crook]

I don't think Norton is much of a name though. Sure, everyone knows him, but he's not an A-list celeb.

If WB wanted to guy higher on the recognizability factor, maybe Cavaziel has a shot at the role again!

Lol, or not. But I would love to see him get it though. He has all the acting chops and was campaigning for the role hard.

 

[Qwerty©]

I don't think Norton is much of a name though. Sure, everyone knows him, but he's not an A-list celeb.

If WB wanted to guy higher on the recognizability factor, maybe Cavaziel has a shot at the role again!

Lol, or not. But I would love to see him get it though. He has all the acting chops and was campaigning for the role hard.

I was exaggerating a bit. But still, the fear is there.

And I wanted Cavaziel for Superman back in the day

 

[Dark Knight]

I was exaggerating a bit. But still, the fear is there.

And I wanted Cavaziel for Superman back in the day

yeah....I still think Singer made a mistake by not casting Caviezel. Caviezel would have been amazing as Supes.

 

[Crook]

It really didn't matter.

Supes/Clark had basically no development and lines. I'm glad Jim didn't get it for this particular film. Wouldn't have fully taken advantage of his skill.