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i just dont understand why you insist that what he did makes him a stalker
Cause that is what stalkers do, and if stalkers had x-ray vision, they would use it. Stalker stand outside of their ex lover's, or perceived lover's house and watch them. Trust me. I had a few of them. Some of them I had to get restraining orders on. What he did was very much in the patern of what stalkers do.
 
Cause that is what stalkers do, and if stalkers had x-ray vision, they would use it. Stalker stand outside of their ex lover's, or perceived lover's house and watch them. Trust me. I had a few of them. Some of them I had to get restraining orders on. What he did was very much in the patern of what stalkers do.
i understand that ,but you are taking it literal, that isnt the reason he did that, and you know that
 
i understand that ,but you are taking it literal, that isnt the reason he did that, and you know that
No, what he did is what stalkers do. They look into windows. He knew she was with someone else. All he knew is that the kid was Richard's. And yet, he landed in her back yard and missused one of his powers to violate she and Richard's privacy of their own home and listened in on a private conversation. His motivations were the same as an ex lover stalker. What he did, had a cop seen it and been able to arrest him for doing so, was breaking the law and stalking Lois.
 
No, what he did is what stalkers do. They look into windows. He knew she was with someone else. All he knew is that the kid was Richard's. And yet, he landed in her back yard and missused one of his powers to violate she and Richard's privacy of their own home and listened in on a private conversation. His motivations were the same as an ex lover stalker. What he did, had a cop seen it and been able to arrest him for doing so, was breaking the law and stalking Lois.
i seriously think that supes listening in on Lois and Richard was taking to way out of content....Lois and Supes relationship was more than that. If after Lois had told Supes that she never wanted to see him again, even after he had confronted her, than this whole stalking thing would be understandable
 
The whole stalker criticism is just plain ridiculous. Superman wanted to know the truth. Once he found it out, he never bothered her again. It's really no different to Superman using his powers to spy on criminals.
 
A guy standing outside his ex-girlfriends house, looking in and listening to her and her current BF's conversation is stanking, super powers or not.
 
A guy standing outside his ex-girlfriends house, looking in and listening to her and her current BF's conversation is stanking, super powers or not.
It was an isolated incident. It's only stalking if you constantly follow someone around and spy on them.
 
Qwerty©;12361917 said:
It was an isolated incident. It's only stalking if you constantly follow someone around and spy on them.

Still doesn't make it right.
 
why cant you understand that he wasnt using his xray in a bad way?...he was only using it to try to figure out the best way to approach Lois

Ummm, he's going to her house, where she has a family!!! How could he have possibly thought at any point that would have been a good time to approach her.
 
Qwerty©;12361888 said:
The whole stalker criticism is just plain ridiculous. Superman wanted to know the truth. Once he found it out, he never bothered her again. It's really no different to Superman using his powers to spy on criminals.

I agree, its not like he was watching Lois undress or in the shower or making love to Richard, he just watched them being a family, which he thinks he will never have.
 
I agree, its not like he was watching Lois undress or in the shower or making love to Richard, he just watched them being a family, which he thinks he will never have.



I agree! All this non sense that has been going around saying that Superman was a stalker is completely and utterly ridiculous!
 
I'm not going to jump into an argument I've done over a million times and its something no one will ever agree on, but I found the scene of Superman looking into Lois and Richards house to be creepy, and its something Superman wouldn't do in my eyes, but whatever.
 
I'm not going to jump into an argument I've done over a million times and its something no one will ever agree on, but I found the scene of Superman looking into Lois and Richards house to be creepy, and its something Superman wouldn't do in my eyes, but whatever.


He was just watching them be a family....he was satifiying his own curiosity in that regard.

Calling him a "stalker" is non sense.

Now if he would have kept doing something like that throughout the movie....

Then there would have been a problem....
 
He was just watching them be a family....he was satifiying his own curiosity in that regard.

Calling him a "stalker" is non sense.

Now if he would have kept doing something like that throughout the movie....

Then there would have been a problem....

I'm not going to get into it. I've done this argument a million times, and spent hours typing my reasons, so I don't really feel like doing it again. Its just like Superman lifting the kryptonite continent. I don't buy it, and it doesn't work for me at all. Superman's behavior in using his x-ray vision on his ex-girlfriend and her family constitutes as very creepy for me.
 
while i didnt entirely mind that scene, superman's actions may be questionable, but it wasnt stalking. either way, i think it was just a quick and efficient way to get a plot point across in the film. it was important for supermans character in the film to hear lois say she doesnt love him...and this was a way of getting it done quick and easy. but i can understand people questioning superman's actions there. but you should also understand, superman is not perfect. he is fallable. though kryptonian, he has the same emotions as humans. he's not gonna be perfect all the time. i think thats an important thing to take from that scene.
 
He was just watching them be a family....he was satifiying his own curiosity in that regard.

Calling him a "stalker" is non sense.

Now if he would have kept doing something like that throughout the movie....

Then there would have been a problem....

Exactly, he only did it the once, and once he heard that Lois didnt love him, he realised he had no place there and left.

while i didnt entirely mind that scene, superman's actions may be questionable, but it wasnt stalking. either way, i think it was just a quick and efficient way to get a plot point across in the film. it was important for supermans character in the film to hear lois say she doesnt love him...and this was a way of getting it done quick and easy. but i can understand people questioning superman's actions there. but you should also understand, superman is not perfect. he is fallable. though kryptonian, he has the same emotions as humans. he's not gonna be perfect all the time. i think thats an important thing to take from that scene.

People seem to forget that, at that point, Superman is probably feeling as lonely as he has EVER felt. He has just come back from a failed mission to possibly find survivors from Krypton, and returns to find the woman he loves has moved on. IMO his action are TOTALLY understandable in the situation.
 
while i didnt entirely mind that scene, superman's actions may be questionable, but it wasnt stalking. either way, i think it was just a quick and efficient way to get a plot point across in the film. it was important for supermans character in the film to hear lois say she doesnt love him...and this was a way of getting it done quick and easy. but i can understand people questioning superman's actions there. but you should also understand, superman is not perfect. he is fallable. though kryptonian, he has the same emotions as humans. he's not gonna be perfect all the time. i think thats an important thing to take from that scene.
is it really necessary for superman to hear lois saying she doesn't love him? for god's sake, a man leaves his lover for 5 years, shouldn't he wish her to move on and find her own happiness. when he found out that she has indeed moved on, should he be happy for her??? why still wanna seduce her???!!! how shameful!!! :cmad:
 
Ummm, he's going to her house, where she has a family!!! How could he have possibly thought at any point that would have been a good time to approach her.
i didnt mean him approaching Lois at her house, i meant finding out her vibe, so the next day he could ask the right questions whether as Clark or Supes
 
is it really necessary for superman to hear lois saying she doesn't love him?

yeah, probably. if theres a woman i love that i know once loved me, before i believe she doesnt anymore, i'd have to hear her say it. if you dont agree with that, then you must have never been head over heels in love with a woman before.

for god's sake, a man leaves his lover for 5 years, shouldn't he wish her to move on and find her own happiness.
cant fault a man for trying to be with his soul mate.

when he found out that she has indeed moved on, should he be happy for her???
if he truly believed she really moved on and that she was happy with that, then he would have likely let her be. but he didnt believe that, and he was right! it was pretty obvious that lois wasnt over superman, and it was pretty obvious she was using richard as a sub-par replacement when she was on the rebound.

why still wanna seduce her???!!! how shameful!!! :cmad:
to make sure she's making the right decisions for the right reasons. rather than making the wrong decisions (richard) for the wrong reasons (out of spite for superman leaving).
 
yeah, probably. if theres a woman i love that i know once loved me, before i believe she doesnt anymore, i'd have to hear her say it. if you dont agree with that, then you must have never been head over heels in love with a woman before.


cant fault a man for trying to be with his soul mate.


if he truly believed she really moved on and that she was happy with that, then he would have likely let her be. but he didnt believe that, and he was right! it was pretty obvious that lois wasnt over superman, and it was pretty obvious she was using richard as a sub-par replacement when she was on the rebound.


to make sure she's making the right decisions for the right reasons. rather than making the wrong decisions (richard) for the wrong reasons (out of spite for superman leaving).
how arrogant...
what has superman done for lois?
you know by saying so, you have just make lois and superman the bad persons and richard; a good guy as victim.
 
and it's unlike in notebook, the main male character deserves to have the girl.
he didn't leave her, he wanted her to further her study, he wrote her letter everyday but her mum kept them. after coming back from war, and when he knew that she was going to marry and having a new life, he didn't go to disturb her. he fulfilled his promise; to build their dream house. it was the girl who came back for him.
that's how a love story works. how a triangle love story resolves when everyone playing good guys for example.

it isn't like in SR. superman does nothing and under the name of true love, he deserves the girl.
 
Cause that is what stalkers do, and if stalkers had x-ray vision, they would use it. Stalker stand outside of their ex lover's, or perceived lover's house and watch them. Trust me. I had a few of them. Some of them I had to get restraining orders on. What he did was very much in the patern of what stalkers do.
dude how many stalkers did you have?
 

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