The Official SDCC Coverage Thread

[Qwerty©]

dude how many stalkers did you have?

Knowing buggs, they were probably just salesmen.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

i didnt mean him approaching Lois at her house, i meant finding out her vibe, so the next day he could ask the right questions whether as Clark or Supes

When Clark first showed up in Metropolis at the Daily Planet, he found out that Lois was engaged and had a child. What other vibe could he have possibly found out from using his x-ray vision in their house. Was he hoping that maybe they were unhappy, so then he could make a move? It just doesn't make sense to me. He had no reason to be there and it was only done so that Singer could show how alone Superman was now, but Singer in the process created an uncomfortable scene that in a way compromised his character.

A more effective way would have been to have Superman fly through the city, doing a sort of surveillance, and then catch Lois and the family in the backyard eating and having a good time. That way there's no using the x-ray vision to spy in on them, he just happens to fly over or by them.

 

[Crook]

Exactly. But I guess that we wouldn't have had the crucial moment of Lois saying she doesn't leave Superman anymore.

Nonetheless. Clark followed her ass home, but not before overhearing her address when she told the cab driver where to go. His ass changed into Superman mad quick.

 

[buggs0268]

i just dont understand why you insist that what he did makes him a stalker

Here is a few real world reason's why:


http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/xp-28302

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_2797.aspx

http://kensingtonbrooklyn.blogspot.com/2007/05/security-alert-local-peeping-tom.html

There we go. That is what is wrong about it. And that is why it makes him appear weird in the movie.

 

[merced]

No news, no rumors, no nothing. That is what is disturbing. I am hearing nothing from WB's side and nothing from Singer's side at this point. Scary to me.

I hope that means a decision has been made. With all its issues I think WB would be crazy to invest 175 million in another Superman film. The best thing I think is do JLA in 2010 without Superman. Use batman as anchor as IESB reports. Spin off the other characters. In 15 years whn WB is flush with money, maybe, from Flash, WW and GL then try another Superman. No news make me think WB has put Superman on the backburner for the indefinite future.

 

[merced]

Every day that passes for me is pretty much a nail in the coffin for a sequel. Although I wish this wasn't the case.

Its depressing in a way but in the long run maybe the best thing for the franchise. I feel they need to go back to the drawing board with new director, writers and actors. Its sad in a way if it maens a 10 year wait until another Superman film. Maybe that is the best thing that can happen to the franchise?

 

[merced]

I'm pretty much leaning toward a J.L. film happening now, instead of M.O.S.

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My question is JLA good for Superman. I am not sure I want him in it. IESB says the focus is batman making me thing they won't use Superman. I hope so because I have a fear WB will write Superman as the boring white bread character in JLA to all the other intersting hip characters like MM and the rest.

 

[merced]

You guys dont get it. Any of these film you mention

-"any movie"
-green lantern
-teen titans
-flash
-wonder woman
-even justice league

theyd be hit films, probably...but supermans on a whole other level and they know it.W.B. have 3 huge properties(HP, bats, Supes) and then a bunch of little ones; and their goal is to have 1 huge 1 a year and then a few of their little ones. The huge properties bring in cash every where, box office, merchandise, dvd, tv , everything. Their "little" ones cant do that.

Their the biggest studio in the world, and they know they wont survive a year without one of their bigs guns. Thats the only reason theyve consistently broke 1 billion domestically when nobody else can; they've gotten 1 of em out every year. Every year they always have huge film to fall back on. 2006 was a total disaster till Superman made it just a dissappointment. 2005 was good but not great until potter smashed records.

These films you mentioned; flash, gl, teen titans....these arent fall back films. They could be hits, but their not the kind you base a year around. Thats why it isn't that simple to say "they can put out any film" or "they have 2options: superman or no superman".

To sum up:

NO SUPERMAN means their not gonna be able to realistcally compete for the domestic crown in 2009 as HP7 will be summer 2010 and BATMAN 3 in summer 2011. A Superman film is their only film that would be a guarenteed 200 million dollar hit.

W.B. know it, thats why we will get superman on film in 2009. Even if it means releasing it winter, they will do all they can to get out in 2009 because with Harry Potter ending in 2010, they cant have just one major franchise and continue the dominance theyve had.

I love Superman first but I honestly think Flash, MM and GL could be much more profitable for WB. Superman is too corny. He needs to be written completely differently to please movie audiences I think but that will make fans mad.

 

[merced]

that is how their backing thmselves into a corner...jl needs to be rewritten, then sign a director, than cast all the heros. Its not auagust; the script would be ready by october..get a director...thats 6 months max for preduction (compared to the usual 8-10) in order to get cameras rolling by may, which would give them 14 months from filming to release max (compared to the usual 15-17).

Basically it would be rushed, thus upping the risk factor by ten. A rushed superman isnt nearly as big of a risk.

I wish I could just have 1 meeting with w.b...i could tell them exactly how and what they need to get the franchise where they want it...instead they pick guys like singer to make 200 million art movies and put in super kid to perminetly **** up a sequel

I think the worst thing WB could do is think they have to have a superhero film in 2009. It is getting to where it it too late for JL. The casting will be a bear. If they use Superman in JL the casting for the new Supes will maybe be the easiest of all.

If its too late for JL in 2009 its too late for an SR sequel.

I think the main thing WB needs to do is get bale into the JL film. If TDK is huge in 2008 it will help JL a lot. Asking bale to film JL for 2009 is too much maybe. I think that may be why the holdup. If WB gets bale they don't need Superman in JL. Using both would be a mistake I think. JL is meant to launch Flash, WW and GL from all i read. Not relaunch Superman or launch batman who is already launched.

 

[Pickle-El]

2009 is possible....but I would prefer it be around Christmas if they do that.

 

[merced]

Whats really curious is Warners didn't even bother doing a panel with at least Routh or Bosworth or something. They are showing absolutely no support towards a sequel.

That sort of sums it up. Not having Routh at comicCon is curious. I understand WB loved Routh about SR more than anything. I'd think they would be promoting him as the new Superman if they planned a sequel. If they do JL I think no way Routh will be in it so maybe they are distancing themselves. WB is showing no support it seems for any of them is the bottom line.

 

[GreenKToo]

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My question is JLA good for Superman. I am not sure I want him in it. IESB says the focus is batman making me thing they won't use Superman. I hope so because I have a fear WB will write Superman as the boring white bread character in JLA to all the other intersting hip characters like MM and the rest.

If there is no S.R. sequel, you can take it to the bank that superman will be in J.L.
It would be crazy not to have him in it.

 

[merced]

My money is honestly on the buzz created by The Incredible Hulk. Like it or not, the two scenarios are very very comprable. We will likely see a trailer either in the winter or at least with the super bowl. They will be able to do market studies, pick up on the buzz created by it, etc. Then they will be able to make their call with plenty of time to get either a late summer or winter release in 2009.

Yes but great buzz for The Hulk, and it looks awesome so far, points to a reboot. New actors, director and writers. No way that can be done for 2009. I don't even think a reboot is on the table for a decade or two.

 

[merced]

yeah....I still think Singer made a mistake by not casting Caviezel. Caviezel would have been amazing as Supes.

In hindsight I think Singer made a mistake in casting not just Superman but Lois and lex too.

 

[merced]

If there is no S.R. sequel, you can take it to the bank that superman will be in J.L.
It would be crazy not to have him in it.

The IESB report says batman is the focus of JL. I can't see WB using both batman and Superman in a film making it too crowded for heroes like GL and WW the film is meant to lauch in solo franchises. I will be pi**ed if Superman is in it and made to look the uncool character to the rest. WB is going to use the toy sales and buzz of the JL characters to decide who gets solos. I'm afraid Superman will lose that contest. Its why I absolutely hope he is not in the film an am cheered by the IESB story.

 

[GreenKToo]

I know, I read it. It says Batman indeed is the anchor, but it says superman is there as well.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2973&Itemid=99

 

[merced]

[BLACKOUT][/BLACKOUT]

I know, I read it. It says Batman indeed is the anchor, but it says superman is there as well.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2973&Itemid=99

My point exactly. If JL was meant to relaunch the Superman franchise he would be the anchor. he is not. Just another character among 4 or 5 to batman's number one. WB has to use the success of bale/Batman to launch JL. In later drafts my hope and bet is Superman will be dropped. A JL film is like kryptonite to Superman as I see it.

 

[superbaby]

My point exactly. If JL was meant to relaunch the Superman franchise he would be the anchor. he is not. Just another character among 4 or 5 to batman's number one. WB has to use the success of bale/Batman to launch JL. In later drafts my hope and bet is Superman will be dropped. A JL film is like kryptonite to Superman as I see it.

i totally don't get it.
since when batman/bale is a success when it made less than SR worldwide??? (don't give me the budget crap. it didn't make the spidey number. it just made as good as FF only. consider how big the fanbase and popular batman is to FF, i thought BB is a disappointment too!!!)

 

[dark_b]

2009 is possible....but I would prefer it be around Christmas if they do that.

SR was a movie for december. the sequel will be action packed. so it will be a summer movie IMO.

 

[dark_b]

i totally don't get it.
since when batman/bale is a success when it made less than SR worldwide??? (don't give me the budget crap. it didn't make the spidey number. it just made as good as FF only. consider how big the fanbase and popular batman is to FF, i thought BB is a disappointment too!!!)

succses?
maybe because almost everyone on this world that watched BB liked the movie? maybe ebecause nolan and bale brought the dark knight back after B&R?

 

[superbaby]

succses?
maybe because almost everyone on this world that watched BB liked the movie? maybe ebecause nolan and bale brought the dark knight back after B&R?

how did you measure?
i could say the same for SR... blah and blah after SIV.

 

[Steelsheen]

a Justice League movie without Superman is not a Justice League movie
a Justice League movie without Batman is not a Justice League movie
a Justice League movie without Wonder Woman is not a Justice League movie

for all of WB's inane decissions, they do have enough common sense to know that when people hear "Justice League" they think Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman at the very least. the most popular incarantion of the League has always had the Big 3 plus Flash and Green Lantern.


i cant believe some of you people cant get this through your thick skulls. this isnt rocket science you know.

 

[merced]

a Justice League movie without Superman is not a Justice League movie
a Justice League movie without Batman is not a Justice League movie
a Justice League movie without Wonder Woman is not a Justice League movie

for all of WB's inane decissions, they do have enough common sense to know that when people hear "Justice League" they think Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman at the very least. the most popular incarantion of the League has always had the Big 3 plus Flash and Green Lantern.


i cant believe some of you people cant get this through your thick skulls. this isnt rocket science you know.

I think they only need 2 of the big 3 in JL. If the plan now is to have Batman anchor JL it makes sense. Without Superman WB can spend more on FX showing the powers of the rest. Batman won't cost much FX. I think he makes it easier to put the others front and center. I think WQB is thinking this through. Making Batman the anchor is a good me to me.

 

[Steelsheen]

merced you really dont get the concept of The Justice League do you?

read my post again. its not "what i think". its is a summary, a fact backed up by 70 years of DC Comic History.

 

[GreenKToo]

a Justice League movie without Superman is not a Justice League movie
a Justice League movie without Batman is not a Justice League movie
a Justice League movie without Wonder Woman is not a Justice League movie

for all of WB's inane decissions, they do have enough common sense to know that when people hear "Justice League" they think Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman at the very least. the most popular incarantion of the League has always had the Big 3 plus Flash and Green Lantern.


i cant believe some of you people cant get this through your thick skulls. this isnt rocket science you know.

Thank you. W.B. may act a little crazy sometimes but, there not stupid.