The Official UFO, Conspiracy Theories and Supernatural Thread

[Zanham]

So, first you say it was pretty interesting, and then agree with someone that it's stupid? And it didn't sound like you were saying you found it interesting because it was stupid, it sounded like you were saying it was interesting because of the mysterious circumstances of the story.
I would never apologise or be ashamed of enjoying something I found interesting, just because someone else thinks it sounds stupid. Stick to your guns.

It's 'stupid' only if it looks like a Jack's Links beef jerky commercial with the Bigfoot. Then you can pretty much be sure it's fake and have to ask 'why the hell did they make and present that to the public like that?'

I think those commercials are great - AS A COMMERCIAL FOR BEFF JERKY. Some of this stuff passed off as being in this area of study makes me want an apocalypse now.

 

[Victarion]

What about the Rake? No one ever remembers the Rake.

 

[enterthemadness]

Is Rogan a free podcast on iTunes?

 

[BrollySupersj]

Hey everyone!

So, again, if you guys are really into the state of the government, socioeconomic cultures, 2012 theories, conspiracies, wall street, our global climate, and of course, more 9/11 talk, PLEASE check out the new Rogan podcast #173 with Peter Joseph, the man behind the Zeitgeist movement.

If you're reading this post right now, then that podcast is probably for you.

I've seen the word "Zeitgeist" thrown around a few times, but never bothered to look it up. Just did right now on wiki, and this caught my attention.

The Resource-Based Economy is a holistic socio-economic system in which all goods and services are available without the use of money, credits, barter or any other system of debt or servitude

That...sounds...just fine.

 

[Crazy Quilt]

I've had an out-of-body experience.

 

[8wid]

Did anyone hear of a premise for movie I don't think was made where a few years ago that had a premise where a newly elected US President finds out about a secret shadow government war council that has been in charge of running national politics behind the scenes since World War II? The new president fights back against them and has to deal with the challenges of betrayal within his own ranks? They are supposed to have been behind the killing of JFK, impeachment of Nixon, even the death of FDR to ensure American dominance of global affairs continues. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Holy sh**, there was a real life 'V For Vendetta' moment there on tv! Ch4 news , in the uk, just did a feature on Alan Moore, and the protestors wearing the 'V' masks. They talked about his comics and showed footage of him going down to visit the protestors, but then, when they cut back to the pre-filmed studio interview with Moore, he opened with 'If the government are doing things you don't agree with...' and then they yanked the tape in mid-sentence! haha, the tape actually paused for a moment like someone had switched it off in a hurry, before being yanked.
this was just on ten minutes ago, so if you are in the UK, and want to see it, it will be repeated on channel 4plus one, in about 50 minutes.

 

[Bim]

Did anyone hear of a premise for movie I don't think was made where a few years ago that had a premise where a newly elected US President finds out about a secret shadow government war council that has been in charge of running national politics behind the scenes since World War II? The new president fights back against them and has to deal with the challenges of betrayal within his own ranks? They are supposed to have been behind the killing of JFK, impeachment of Nixon, even the death of FDR to ensure American dominance of global affairs continues. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Hadnt heard of it, but it would be an interesting premise for a movie though.

I read this today, could be interesting if it was a UFO: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Shipwreck hunters stumble across mysterious find

(CNN) -- Deep down on the bottom of the Baltic Sea, Swedish treasure hunters think they have made the find of a lifetime.

The problem is, they're not exactly sure what it is they've uncovered.
Out searching for shipwrecks at a secret location between Sweden and Finland, the deep-sea salvage company Ocean Explorer captured an incredible image more than 80 meters below the water's surface.

At first glance, team leader and commercial diver Peter Lindberg joked that his crew had just discovered an unidentified flying object, or UFO.
"I have been doing this for nearly 20 years so I have a seen a few objects on the bottom, but nothing like this," said Lindberg.

"We had been out for nine days and we were quite tired and we were on our way home, but we made a final run with a sonar fish and suddenly this thing turned up," he continued.

Using side-scan sonar, the team found a 60-meter diameter cylinder-shaped object, with a rigid tail 400 meters long.

The imaging technique involves pulling a sonar "towfish" -- that essentially looks sideways underwater - behind a boat, where it creates sound echoes to map the sea floor below.

On another pass over the object, the sonar showed a second disc-like shape 200 meters away.

Lindberg's team believe they are too big to have fallen off a ship or be part of a wreck, but it's anyone's guess what could be down there.
"We've heard lots of different kinds of explanations, from George Lucas's spaceship -- the Millennium Falcon -- to 'it's some kind of plug to the inner world,' like it should be hell down there or something.

"But we won't know until we have been down there," said Lindberg.
The Head of Archaeology at Sweden's Maritime Museums, Andreas Olsson, admits he's intrigued by the picture, but remains sceptical about what it could be.

The reliability of one-side scan sonar images is one of his main concerns, making it difficult to determine if the object is a natural geological formation or something different altogether.

"It all depends on the circumstances when you actually tow the [sonar] fish after the boat," he said.

"What are the temperature conditions, the wave conditions, how deep is your fish in relation to the sea bed etcetera and all those parameters also affects what kind of image you have in the end," he explained.

Even Lindberg agrees the image "isn't the best it could be." But his crew are still planning to return to the site in the calmer waters of spring to investigate their find.

It's a risky and expensive business, and not one that always pays off.
British maritime historian, Professor Andrew Lambert, says the costs of recovery are now too high for most.

"If you want to stand in a cold shower tearing up £50 notes, go shipwreck hunting," he said. "Most shipwrecks are rotting away, or carrying dull things -- all the romance has been taken out of it."

It's a problem Lindberg and his team are aware of.
"It's a very difficult industry to be in -- it's money all the time," he confessed. "The best thing it could be, would be 60 meters of gold -- then I would be very happy."

"This thing is very far out, it's really off-shore, so first of all we need a bigger ship... more equipment.. and we have to do bottom sampling, water sampling, to see if it is something poisonous."

But even if the mystery object doesn't contain retrievable treasure the site could still prove to be a gold mine for the Ocean Explorer team, with tourists and private investors paying to see it up-close, in a submarine.

"The object itself is maybe not valuable in the sense of money it can be very interesting whatever it is, historical or a natural anomaly," said Lindberg.

In the North Atlantic, one American salvage company is also hoping to beat the odds.

Odyssey Marine Exploration -- a company made up of researchers, scientists, technicians and archaeologists -- have at least 6,300 shipwrecks in their database that they are looking to find.

Their latest discoveries include two British war-time shipwrecks off the coast of Ireland that could be laden with hundreds of tonnes of silver.
Mark Gordon, president of Odyssey, says at least 100 ships on their watch-list are known to have values in excess of $50 million dollars.

"When you think about the fact until the mid 20th century, the only way to transport wealth was on the oceans and a lot of ships were lost, it adds up to a formula where we have billions of dollars worth of interesting and valuable things on the sea floor," he said.

The lure of treasure has lead to an increasing number of discoveries in recent years. But one which doesn't come without its dangers, warns Olsson.

"I think recently we're entering a time of a lot of discoveries," he said of the technological advancements in finding shipwrecks.

"The professional shipwreck discoverers are doing a great effort for cultural heritage management in the long run... what we don't support is the action of actually taking up items and selling them," he said.

 

[Docker2.0]

Bump! Forgot this thing existed!

 

[Lord]

An interesting one from Cracked:

The Dyatlov Pass Incident​

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On February 2nd, 1959, during the cold winter on Kholat Syakhl ("Mountain of the Dead") in Russia, nine intrepid ski hikers decided to do what they do best, which is ski hike, whatever the hell that is. On February 26th, the first of their very dead bodies turned up. Man, who would have thought such a tragedy could strike on "The Mountain of the Dead?"​

But it was the discovery of the campgrounds that added the icing to the creepy-as-**** cake. The ski hikers' tent was shredded. The skiers were scattered around the grounds wearing either very sparse clothing or just their underwear. Three of them were found with crushed ribs and fractured skulls, but no visible defense marks or other signs of a struggle.​

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Oh yeah, and one of the bodies was missing a tongue.
In case you weren't already on the phone with Mulder and Scully, trace levels of radiation were supposedly found on their bodies. The official statement on what happened was about as vague and covering as possible, saying it was caused by an "unknown compelling force."
The story has become an internet sensation over the years, with many people blaming aliens, and then ghosts, and then the yeti, or possibly all of them working in tandem.​

And one very widespread rumor of the 20 dollars bill​

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Another is that if you write Illuminati backwards as itanimulli.com you go to the NSA's website, this one is true, as i've tried it, but it's probably a prank.

 

[Docker2.0]

Wow lord. That is pretty interesting. I just find it hard to believe that people still don't see what's going on with tv, the way this country is going, and can't see something is going on. People are so hell bent on standing their ground of democrat and republican that they can't see there is no difference between the two and we are all being played.

 

[The Question]

It was suggested that it could have been caused by an avalanche. The force of the falling snow could cause that crushing damage. A combination of shock and hypothermia, which can cause phantom sensations of overheating, may have compelled them to remove their clothing, the force of the avalanche could have caused the one man to bite his own tongue, and the significant shift in temperature could have caused their bodies to give off low levels of infrared radiation. And the sun could have melted away the top layer of snow and removed the evidence.

At least that's the explanation I heard. Not sure how legit it is. Sounds possible but unlikely to me. Whatever.

 

[moviedoors]

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4108

 

[enterthemadness]

An interesting one from Cracked:

And one very widespread rumor of the 20 dollars bill​

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Another is that if you write Illuminati backwards as itanimulli.com you go to the NSA's website, this one is true, as i've tried it, but it's probably a prank.

It's a prank. And yes, the two party system is the same these days really. From what I know of Huntsman, even though he supports NDAA, he seems like a fairly good Republican. But I am now Libertarian. And proud. This ship is sinking and the R's and D's are to blame.

 

[moviedoors]

I'm not a Democrat, I sure as hell am not a Republican, and both parties are dragging us down with all the bickering and stand offs, but I still fail to see the conspiracy.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm not a Democrat, I sure as hell am not a Republican, and both parties are dragging us down with all the bickering and stand offs, but I still fail to see the conspiracy.

Most animals don't see the snake until he bit them. Honestly, it's hidden in plain sight.

 

[moviedoors]

Most animals don't see the snake until he bit them. Honestly, it's hidden in plain sight.

Then again, explain it to me if you're so sure. This whole "it's obvious, but I can't really explain it" routine is already getting old.

 

[enterthemadness]

So, saw this just a while ago...and the countdown ended today...


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[SuperSoldier985]

So, saw this just a while ago...and the countdown ended today...


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OMG, my birthday

 

[Docker2.0]

Then again, explain it to me if you're so sure. This whole "it's obvious, but I can't really explain it" routine is already getting old.

Really? I'm sorry but it's a lot to type. Plus I realize that unless you see it for yourself, you won't believe. Kind of like believing in God. No matter what anyone says, unless you've felt His presence, he draws you or just hunger for Him, you won't believe He exist.

 

[moviedoors]

Really? I'm sorry but it's a lot to type. Plus I realize that unless you see it for yourself, you won't believe.

Hey, you're the one that opened the door. I guess it's not hidden in such plain sight then.

 

[mjbull23]

OMG, my birthday

Also the 8 yr anniversary of when I joined the Hype. Whew. Creepy

 

[Docker2.0]

Hey, you're the one that opened the door. I guess it's not hidden in such plain sight then.

I did, didn't I? Seriously, it only opens the doors up for trolls. Plus like I stated earlier, it's a lot to type. Plus I honestly don't really know how to explain things well.

 

[enterthemadness]

Sooo...nothing happened.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Really? I'm sorry but it's a lot to type. Plus I realize that unless you see it for yourself, you won't believe. Kind of like believing in God. No matter what anyone says, unless you've felt His presence, he draws you or just hunger for Him, you won't believe He exist.

I'm sorry, but not choosing to explain (or point to a site that does explain) your conspiracy by saying its like "believing in God" is a really lame excuse (as is "its a lot to type"). To me, if I believed some thing to be so important, I would do everything I could to explain it to someone who asked about it. Otherwise, why bring it up at all?