The Ongoing Bought/Thought! 2013

Between "Iron Man 3" and FCBD, this will be a large week to kick off May on. But in terms of my weekly slate, it was about average. Onward with spoilers/rants!

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 5/1/13:

SUPER DINOSAUR #19: This has become the oft forgotten Image Comic written by superstar Robert Kirkman and drawn by Jason Howard. It sells near the bottom of the "top 300" and while this is creator owned, one has to wonder when it will become counter-productive for even Kirkman to produce unless the trade paperback sell well enough to offset it. At any case, the duo of super genius kid Derek Dynamo and his best friend, the titular Super-Dinosaur (SD), lose a bit of their innocence in this issue. Faced with a new threat - the clone of their enemy Max Maximus who has now transformed into the ravenous Tyrannosaurus X - the two do battle against him with their usual banter and bluster. This time, however, Tyrannosaurus X is far too powerful for them, and nearly beats SD to death. They only survive by a fluke, leaving behind an enemy greater than any they've faced with a plan to unite others against them. Howard's artwork as always is terrific, with some great action showcases within this issue. With the book reaching a two year mark, now is as good a time as any to inject some fear into their leads, which is often fascinating.

AGE OF ULTRON #7: With "Superior Spider-Man" stealing the thunder this week, Brian Bendis' latest annual event continues to lurch forward towards an inevitable and irrelevant conclusion. How bad was it? Marvel had to announce the debut of a "Spawn" character from the early 1990's nobody cares about in order to even attempt to maintain buzz for this series. Flanked by artists Brandon Peterson and Carlos Pacheco (who each have their own inkers and colorists), this issue reveals the world which Wolverine and Invisible Woman have created by murdering Hank Pym in the past to prevent Ultron's birth due to their own present being ruled by him. They return to a world in which their fellow heroes bare the scars of a war against Skrulls and in which everything is still ruled by a technological maniac - only it is Iron Man instead of Ultron. This is hardly the first alternate reality run by an evil Stark to appear in Marvel - after all, the final arc of "Dark Avengers" has run with such a premise - and shows that time paradoxes are not to be trifled with. If there is any justice Wolverine will be taken to task for being an immortal hypocritical meddler of the time-stream, but that is unlikely. This issue sees some solid art and superheroes fighting each other, which only happens in every crossover event which seems to be published lately. At any rate, Marvel seems to be quickly moving past this overdue series for the latest thing, and it will be curious if readers do too and how this may effect "Infinity" later on.

INDESTRUCTIBLE HULK #7: Writer Mark Waid has united with legendary "Thor" artist Walter Simonson (alongside colorist Andres Mossa) continue along their arc which sees the "SHIELD" authorized Bruce Banner/Hulk travel into Asgard in the name of developing more gadgets for the agency. This time, an experiment on the unique metal uru causes Banner and his squad to not only travel to Asgard in general, but into its past. Thus they run afoul of a Thor who has never met many "mortals" and probably didn't lose the hammer to a decade of humility to Odin. Thus, Thor is arrogant and overconfident, and the Hulk and his team have stumbled upon a tribe of Frost Giants with ambitions of grandeur. Simonson's artwork is "retro" in a good way, offering a lot of splash to the action and pacing Waid's script very well. Readers also learn a secret about one of Banner's fellow researchers, in that she's suicidal and wants the Hulk to kill her akin to a "suicide by cop" moment. While this series by Waid often is second fiddle alongside his "Daredevil", his run on Hulk has also been quite an enjoyably fun ride.

IRON MAN #9: On the eve in which Marvel Studios' "Iron Man 3" hits theaters, the latest comic book version of the armor clad Avenger finds itself at the top of the pile. Kieron Gillen ("Thor", "Journey Into Mystery", "Uncanny X-Men") continues on his long term arc which involves Tony Stark exploring space in a new suit of armor after having a mid-life crisis after thwarting a scheme from A.I.M. back home. The major change which elevates this issue from good to greatness is the change in artist. Gone, aside for the cover, is professional Photoshopper Greg Land and in his place (at least for an arc) is iconic "JSA" and "Fantastic Four" artist Dale Eaglesham, alongside colorist Guru eFX (which is presumably a pen name). Called "The Origin of Tony Stark", this arc will see Gillen invent some revelations in regards to Tony's father Howard which will connect his current space jaunt to his own personal history. Along the way, he has a team up with former "Marvel U.K." darling, the giant robot mercenary, Death's Head.

In the previous arc, Iron Man got mixed up with the Voldi, an ancient race who inspired the Kree and the Shi'ar, who soon held him accountable for seemingly killing their deity the Phoenix in "Avengers vs. X-Men" last year. He escaped through the aid of a recorder robot named 451, who wound up having his own agenda which led to the annihilation of the Voldi. Having originally been pitted against Death's Head by the Voldi during their "trial by combat", now Stark hires the bounty hunter to help him find 451. Despite how smart Tony seems to be, 451 appears to be a step ahead all the step of the way, although the final pages which reveal a lost film of Tony's father reveal that 451 has been involved with the Stark family for generations. While Gillen's story is fascinating as always on this title, it is Eaglesham's artwork which blows this issue out of the water. After eight issues of Land's usual computer copied "art" from wrestling magazines, porn, and the associated press, it is refreshing to see genuine pencils and lively art, as well as characters who can emote - even the mechanical Death's Head. While the previous arc seemed a bit wasted with the Voldi existing to die, this one kicks things off by offering more meat.

Death's Head is a creation of the "Marvel U.K." imprint which began in 1972 to reprint Marvel comics within the United Kingdom, but began producing its own original content from 1976-1995. He first appeared in "Transformers U.K. #113" written by Simon Furman and drawn by Geoff Senior; Furman made sure to separate the character from the "Transformers" franchise before Marvel lost the license to it. While the original incarnation of the character has done little for the past twenty years, Gillen utilized the character in his short lived "SWORD" series in 2010, and continues to do so here. Considering how much mileage DC Comics still gets out of Lobo, it is past time that this character was re-visioned and refined. One can expect this character to return in this series again.

Bottom line? This series has always been good in terms of Gillen's writing, but Land's artwork has always held it back into "pretty good" territory as a package. Joined with any other artist - especially one as talented as Eaglesham - this title easily goes into greatness.

SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #9: This is arguably the most notable issue of any comic for this week, and is certainly the most "shocking" or noteworthy issue of the main Spider-Man comic since December 2012. Back in the so-called "final" issue of "Amazing Spider-Man", Dr. Octopus successfully swapped minds with his nemesis and allowed Peter Parker to seemingly die in his abandoned withered from - after threatening all of his friends. Due to a last ditch effort to save himself, Ock was injected with Peter's memories and thus vowed to become a "superior" hero. In practice, "Spidey-Ock" has proved to be a more violent hero, willing to execute criminals (Massacre) as well as illegally spy upon the city with his "spider-bots" as well as make leery eyes at MJ or any female in his presence. Peter's "will" or "spirit" has remained alongside Ock, attempting to regain control of his body. In this issue, drawn by primary regular artist Ryan Stegman, Ock and Peter meet once more on the psychic plane for yet another "final battle".

Stegman draws some of the best pages and panels of his career, and writer Dan Slott dips into his vast well of comic book knowledge for no end of references from Peter's personal squad of allies to even mention of a famous typo from the early 1960's regarding his last name. The action is suspenseful and the finale certainly leaves the reader emotionally effected. The area where things become questionable are in the execution and the plot mechanics. Overall the execution is very dramatic and fast paced, in which the battle between Ock and Peter revolves around a debate over who is more responsible as Spider-Man. And, if one is honest when looking at Marvel's promotions online, it was obvious that something had to happen to prolong this status quo. The dilemma is what was a fascinating arc may get stretched too thin to become an ongoing series premise which invites many uneasy consequences - essentially telling the story of a murderous megalomaniac who won but partially redeems himself due to arrogance into becoming a mere anti-hero while the noble if flawed hero he successfully murdered is lectured down to and eliminated. Yet even that is acceptable, but the one thing this issue sees is Peter Parker crumble due to a false moral equivalence argument that Ock makes, and that component is a major demerit to an otherwise well executed extension of this story line.

To clarify (as a SHH exclusive), the psychic battle comes down to Ock claiming that Peter failed his own example of "responsibility" by attempting to interfere with Ock when he was trying to save a girl's life in the last issue because he knew that once he claimed his gadget from Cardiac, he'd be able to discover and remove Peter from his own body once and for all. This was deemed as being just as wrong as Ock's immediate reaction to finding out Peter was still lingering in the body that Ock had stolen from him - which was to destroy him. With all due respect to Dan Slott and with full acknowledgement that SOMETHING had to happen to prolong this status quo out for various promotional reasons, that's baloney. That disregards Ock's own actions as "superior" Spider-Man during that story. When he found out that Cardiac was trying to steal one of his old gadgets, he flat out sought to murder him - which Peter had to prevent by literally staying his hand. If Ock had succeeded, that girl would have died anyway. Ock then proceeded to burst into Cardiac's underground hospital and endangered all of the patients and workers within in to not only sheer damage, but being discovered by authorities (since this hospital for the downtrodden wasn't exactly legal). The fact that nobody was killed or injured during that rampage and Cardiac was able to convince "Spidey-Ock" to chill out so he could save a kid was less Ock being a hero and more circumstances working out for him.

This also disregards all of Ock's actions as Spider-Man, and that's not simply in brutalizing criminals, whether because they usurp the Sinister Six name or, gasp, stomp on Ock's goggles. This includes him using his spider-bots to illegally spy on everyone in NYC and threaten Massacre's blackmailed accomplice, or on the bullies he cripples and nearly kills simply because they insulted his tutor. This also ignores that fact that Ock wasn't out to be a better Spider-Man at the end of ASM - he was out to save his own skin and murder his own rival and mite out revenge upon his life. Ock was trying to kill all of Peter's supporting cast and the ONLY reason he has any responsibility is because Peter zapped him with his own memories. While Peter Parker may not have the will of Batman or Captain America or even a Green Lantern, previous stories have shown he's got incredible fortitude when he needs it. From "If This Be My Destiny" to talking Death herself out of claiming him so he could save someone, Spidey's acts of will are often ignored. And it also disregards all the people Ock has murdered in his schemes - including Captain Stacy, who appears in the psychic battle. So while it is in character for Ock to essentially remain a violent arrogant bully even as an anti-hero and to make a moral equivalence argument, I thought Peter buying it to the point that he gives up his psychic struggle for his own life that he caves to his enemy to be nearly as much of a character misinterpretation as Peter agreeing to a deal with the devil to save his aunt even after said aunt told him to be happy with his wife and let her go. My issue with this issue isn't the end result per say, but the method of getting there despite the mostly good execution until the climax.

For a franchise whose entire woes were once blamed on a marriage a mere six years ago, it remains amazing how it seems to continue to rely on one drastic stunt after the next to remain relevant. Slott has steered this ship well since taking over the helm exclusively (or near exclusively) since late 2010, often finding new spins on many old villains and tales. This "mind swap" story has quickly become the most notable one in some time, finding new suspense in an old trope. Yet this issue may be seen as the one in which things began to be stretched too far, and such a thing would be a shame. The cover, by Marcos Martin, however, is without flaw.
 
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...and writer Dan Slott dips into his vast well of comic book knowledge for no end of references from Peter's personal squad of allies to even mention of a famous typo from the early 1960's regarding his last name.

FYI, that famous typo occurred in ASM #3, the first appearance of Doc Ock. ;word:

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Indestructible Hulk #7: I was very nearly angry with Waid and Simonson for this issue, but then I wasn't and everything was okay. :)
 
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY!!!!

Sadly, my shop only allows for people to take two comics, so I figure I'd give my thoughts on the ones I did pick up:

Marvel: Infinity - This was the one that I KNEW I wanted and it bored me to tears. There wasn't really anything in the new story that made me care about the upcoming event... particularly because nothing really happened, we got a tiny glimpse of Thanos, and barely cameos of anyone else. It didn't give us any indication of what Infinity will be about, and it didn't build really. After thinking back on how good the Avengers issue was that eventually led to Age of Ultron, I was just very let down. Marvel has a history of good FCBD offerings dealing with the main 616, but this wasn't one of them.

Walking Dead - I don't buy the issues for this title; I'm getting caught up through trades and plan to continue reading it like that when I'm up to date. Due to this, I don't bother buying the one-shots. Well, this one reprinted some of the short one-shot stories (all of them?) into a free comic, so I figured I'd go ahead and pick it up. I'm glad I did. The stories were decent, though nothing too astounding. The Governor story was just mediocre (and I'm glad I didn't spend $3 on the one shot back when I was considering it not long ago). The Tyrese story was decent but nothing ground breaking. That said, I LOVED the Morgan story. He's a recent addition to the title where I am in the trades, so to see this snippet of his life between Rick leaving him and Duane and when Rick finds him again was good.

This was definitely superior to the Marvel offering.


Those were the two that I brought home. There were two others that I was interested in, but my shop didn't even order one of them (Third World Press with Gossymer and Stuff of Legend). The other was the Archadia comic with Mouse Guard and Rust (if I'm remembering it correctly). I've read and loved the first volume of Mouse Guard and plan to eventually read the rest. And Rust looked interesting in a previous FCBD story, so I wanted to try it again. My shop doesn't get much in the way of Mouse Guard so I'm hoping people aren't interested in that one and there will be some left tomorrow morning for me to pick up on the way home from church. Fingers crossed.
 
There are a lot of writers that I'd worry about. Waid isn't one of them. You was just bein' silly :up:
 
Whatever, I make no apologies. I'm usually pretty reasonable, but the Hulk lifting Mjolnir would've sparked my full-on fanboy rage.
 
Stuff I bought:

Snapshot #4 was a really good ending to Andy Diggle and Jock's mini-series. It was a downer, but that's appropriate for the tone of the rest of the story and it certainly wasn't trite. I haven't seen Jock do black and white art before; it looks every bit as good as his full-color work.

Dial H #12 was interesting, but it felt like a transition chapter into the next phase of where the dial mythos goes. That's perfectly a fine role to fill, though.

Free Comic Book Day stuff:

The Walking Dead was good. I don't remember any of the stories being in the trades except the Duane/Morgan Christmas one from one of the early volumes. That was the best of the four stories, and the others were good, though they don't add much to the characterizations of their subjects.

Infinity was very mediocre. It didn't amount to anything more than a way to start building hype for Thanos. But it wasn't exciting enough to do that. Marvel's had FBCD issues in the past that worked well as standalone stories, but they missed the mark big this time.

The Star Wars/Avatar preview served its purpose well. Both previews were short but complete stories that made me somewhat interested in reading their respective books.
 
I liked Infinity's FCBD issue. It was definitely pretty light in terms of actual content, but it set up what Thanos is up to for the crossover and it's well outside of his usual wheelhouse. He doesn't generally lord his will over conquered planets; he usually just destroys everything. It certainly got me curious to see what his actual plan and goals are, especially since it seems to be a little more complex than just "kill stuff for Death" this time.
 
The Walking Dead was good. I don't remember any of the stories being in the trades except the Duane/Morgan Christmas one from one of the early volumes. That was the best of the four stories, and the others were good, though they don't add much to the characterizations of their subjects.

I've been reading all the trades of late and am up to volume 13 right now, and none of these scenes are in the trades as of where I am... at least not in the most recent printing of them.
 
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #9:

Yet even that is acceptable, but the one thing this issue sees is Peter Parker crumble due to a false moral equivalence argument that Ock makes, and that component is a major demerit to an otherwise well executed extension of this story line.

To clarify (as a SHH exclusive), the psychic battle comes down to Ock claiming that Peter failed his own example of "responsibility" by attempting to interfere with Ock when he was trying to save a girl's life in the last issue because he knew that once he claimed his gadget from Cardiac, he'd be able to discover and remove Peter from his own body once and for all. This was deemed as being just as wrong as Ock's immediate reaction to finding out Peter was still lingering in the body that Ock had stolen from him - which was to destroy him. With all due respect to Dan Slott and with full acknowledgement that SOMETHING had to happen to prolong this status quo out for various promotional reasons, that's baloney. That disregards Ock's own actions as "superior" Spider-Man during that story. When he found out that Cardiac was trying to steal one of his old gadgets, he flat out sought to murder him - which Peter had to prevent by literally staying his hand. If Ock had succeeded, that girl would have died anyway. Ock then proceeded to burst into Cardiac's underground hospital and endangered all of the patients and workers within in to not only sheer damage, but being discovered by authorities (since this hospital for the downtrodden wasn't exactly legal). The fact that nobody was killed or injured during that rampage and Cardiac was able to convince "Spidey-Ock" to chill out so he could save a kid was less Ock being a hero and more circumstances working out for him.

This also disregards all of Ock's actions as Spider-Man, and that's not simply in brutalizing criminals, whether because they usurp the Sinister Six name or, gasp, stomp on Ock's goggles. This includes him using his spider-bots to illegally spy on everyone in NYC and threaten Massacre's blackmailed accomplice, or on the bullies he cripples and nearly kills simply because they insulted his tutor. This also ignores that fact that Ock wasn't out to be a better Spider-Man at the end of ASM - he was out to save his own skin and murder his own rival and mite out revenge upon his life. Ock was trying to kill all of Peter's supporting cast and the ONLY reason he has any responsibility is because Peter zapped him with his own memories. While Peter Parker may not have the will of Batman or Captain America or even a Green Lantern, previous stories have shown he's got incredible fortitude when he needs it. From "If This Be My Destiny" to talking Death herself out of claiming him so he could save someone, Spidey's acts of will are often ignored. And it also disregards all the people Ock has murdered in his schemes - including Captain Stacy, who appears in the psychic battle. So while it is in character for Ock to essentially remain a violent arrogant bully even as an anti-hero and to make a moral equivalence argument, I thought Peter buying it to the point that he gives up his psychic struggle for his own life that he caves to his enemy to be nearly as much of a character misinterpretation as Peter agreeing to a deal with the devil to save his aunt even after said aunt told him to be happy with his wife and let her go. My issue with this issue isn't the end result per say, but the method of getting there despite the mostly good execution until the climax.

For a franchise whose entire woes were once blamed on a marriage a mere six years ago, it remains amazing how it seems to continue to rely on one drastic stunt after the next to remain relevant. Slott has steered this ship well since taking over the helm exclusively (or near exclusively) since late 2010, often finding new spins on many old villains and tales. This "mind swap" story has quickly become the most notable one in some time, finding new suspense in an old trope. Yet this issue may be seen as the one in which things began to be stretched too far, and such a thing would be a shame. The cover, by Marcos Martin, however, is without flaw.

Dread, I have enjoyed reading your various reviews. But, I have to say, and excuse me if I read you wrong, but I think you read this issue wrong. I don't think Slott was saying Ock's argument was "right," or that Ock was morally "superior." It was Ock that was saying it, from his point of view. Ock knows Pete (even better now) and Pete's sense of responsibility and sense of guilt and he uses this one slip up of Pete against him. It is classic Pete. His guilt defeats him. I don't think Slott was saying Ock was in fact "superior."

And, on a side note, I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Slott this weekend.

Mr. Slott, if by chance you read this, I hope I did not come off too "geeky" or too "gushy." It's just I didn't want to take up too much of your time and I tried to blurt out what I wanted to say. I am sincere in saying you have done an outstanding job since taking over the title. Your sense of history, continuity, and character (particularly Pete) has been fantastic!
 
I've been a little behind on FF, so I just read issue 6 tonight, and I have to say that the scene where the moloid Tong comes out as a women is the single best thing I've read in Marvel Now. My heart melted. FF is a billion times better than Fantastic Four right now.
 
Dread, I have enjoyed reading your various reviews. But, I have to say, and excuse me if I read you wrong, but I think you read this issue wrong. I don't think Slott was saying Ock's argument was "right," or that Ock was morally "superior." It was Ock that was saying it, from his point of view. Ock knows Pete (even better now) and Pete's sense of responsibility and sense of guilt and he uses this one slip up of Pete against him. It is classic Pete. His guilt defeats him. I don't think Slott was saying Ock was in fact "superior."

And, on a side note, I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Slott this weekend.

Mr. Slott, if by chance you read this, I hope I did not come off too "geeky" or too "gushy." It's just I didn't want to take up too much of your time and I tried to blurt out what I wanted to say. I am sincere in saying you have done an outstanding job since taking over the title. Your sense of history, continuity, and character (particularly Pete) has been fantastic!

I've met Dan Slott twice, including at a signing he did at last year's NYCC. He's very cool, and usually very funny.

As I said in my review, I didn't have a problem with Ock taking the moral equivalence route in their psychic duel. And I am aware that Slott isn't necessarily saying that Ock is "superior" than Peter in the role per say, even if now and again Peter would acknowledge when he had a good idea. My issue was that Peter bought it and caved. My issue was the method, not the outcome. Going in, especially seeing future solicitations, I knew the "superior" era was not ending, and that a confrontation HAD to go Ock's way.

Even with my criticisms of this issue, I did think the issue overall was good. I haven't been on ASM/the core Spidey title this long since the 90's, and I haven't liked a run as much since then, either. I do think that overall, "superior" Spider-Man has worked because Slott and his editors have successfully breathed life into one of the oldest plot tropes there is - the mind-swap episode. They've taken a set up which could and has been a throwaway plot in an annual or a generic TV episode and made it far more suspenseful and dramatic. That said, I do feel it is a story with a natural life span and I question how long everyone thinks this story can last without it getting too absurd or reaching such a corner that the subsequent arcs become more difficult.

This is essentially a story about a middle aged villain who successfully cheated a deserved death by swapping minds with his heroic nemesis, then successfully living out his life as his nemesis dies, ignored and unnoticed. Whatever noble ambitions were injected within him by said nemesis as a near dying act. As innovative and suspenseful as that is, eventually it reaches a point where it ceases being dramatic and suspenseful and becomes a bit icky. Quite where that line is, is unknown, and certainly I imagine some subsequent arcs bringing in new ideas - such as Spidey 2099. I just am concerned that the story will get stretched beyond an organic end point for the sake of a longer term scheme. This was probably the first issue of Slott's solo run on the book which half disappointed me, so hence I got into the criticism a bit. Overall it was still good. Warts and all I still nearly made it "book of the week" at Examiner. Despite any hiccups I see in it, it's blowing AGE OF ULTRON out of the water. And I'm still an avid reader and fan of it. Slott said that this issue would drive people nuts. It didn't drive me nuts, but yes, he did get a reaction out of me that I usually don't feel for his issues or parts of his issues of ASM. Mission accomplished. :up:

I imagine "deleting" Peter from his own body seemingly "forever" will come with some consequences for Ock, which future stories will explore. If things go wrong, he may end up being a villain or a larger anti-hero, just as Spider-Man. "Amazing Spider-Man 2" is coming next year, so I imagine some other "final conclusion" will emerge in an arc around then, if not sooner. Marvel were willing to kill off Rogers for 2.5 years, but he was back for his film, after all.

(The bit which I am probably more critical of is nobody but Carlie Cooper catching on that Peter talks like Dr. Evil most of the time and something is wrong, but I attribute that to suspending belief...to a point.)
 
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As I said in my review, I didn't have a problem with Ock taking the moral equivalence route in their psychic duel. And I am aware that Slott isn't necessarily saying that Ock is "superior" than Peter in the role per say, even if now and again Peter would acknowledge when he had a good idea. My issue was that Peter bought it and caved. My issue was the method, not the outcome. Going in, especially seeing future solicitations, I knew the "superior" era was not ending, and that a confrontation HAD to go Ock's way.

OK, got ya. I thought you were saying that Dan (& Marvel in a sense) supported the idea Pete was wrong and Ock was right.

See, I think Ock attacked Pete where he is weakest: his sense of guilt. We as readers may know what Ock is doing (and so might Pete, he is bright), but that doesn't stop Pete's guilt kicking in. I think it shows Ock's genius in going this route.

Even with my criticisms of this issue, I did think the issue overall was good. I haven't been on ASM/the core Spidey title this long since the 90's, and I haven't liked a run as much since then, either.

I haven't enjoyed a Spidey run this consistently since the 80's! (Well, maybe JMS while JRJR was still doing the art).

Warts and all I still nearly made it "book of the week" at Examiner. Despite any hiccups I see in it, it's blowing AGE OF ULTRON out of the water.

Dan's Spidey "events" seem to be doing that fairly consistently. :cwink: :up:

(The bit which I am probably more critical of is nobody but Carlie Cooper catching on that Peter talks like Dr. Evil most of the time and something is wrong, but I attribute that to suspending belief...to a point.)

Carlie actually had that strange encounter with the dying "Ock." But, we have seen MJ state that's not Pete and the Avengers actually called him in and ran tests on him. People don't automatically think of "MINDSWAP!" They are catching on.
 
To clarify (as a SHH exclusive), the psychic battle comes down to Ock claiming that Peter failed his own example of "responsibility" by attempting to interfere with Ock when he was trying to save a girl's life in the last issue because he knew that once he claimed his gadget from Cardiac, he'd be able to discover and remove Peter from his own body once and for all. This was deemed as being just as wrong as Ock's immediate reaction to finding out Peter was still lingering in the body that Ock had stolen from him - which was to destroy him. With all due respect to Dan Slott and with full acknowledgement that SOMETHING had to happen to prolong this status quo out for various promotional reasons, that's baloney. That disregards Ock's own actions as "superior" Spider-Man during that story. When he found out that Cardiac was trying to steal one of his old gadgets, he flat out sought to murder him - which Peter had to prevent by literally staying his hand. If Ock had succeeded, that girl would have died anyway. Ock then proceeded to burst into Cardiac's underground hospital and endangered all of the patients and workers within in to not only sheer damage, but being discovered by authorities (since this hospital for the downtrodden wasn't exactly legal). The fact that nobody was killed or injured during that rampage and Cardiac was able to convince "Spidey-Ock" to chill out so he could save a kid was less Ock being a hero and more circumstances working out for him.

This also disregards all of Ock's actions as Spider-Man, and that's not simply in brutalizing criminals, whether because they usurp the Sinister Six name or, gasp, stomp on Ock's goggles. This includes him using his spider-bots to illegally spy on everyone in NYC and threaten Massacre's blackmailed accomplice, or on the bullies he cripples and nearly kills simply because they insulted his tutor. This also ignores that fact that Ock wasn't out to be a better Spider-Man at the end of ASM - he was out to save his own skin and murder his own rival and mite out revenge upon his life. Ock was trying to kill all of Peter's supporting cast and the ONLY reason he has any responsibility is because Peter zapped him with his own memories. While Peter Parker may not have the will of Batman or Captain America or even a Green Lantern, previous stories have shown he's got incredible fortitude when he needs it. From "If This Be My Destiny" to talking Death herself out of claiming him so he could save someone, Spidey's acts of will are often ignored. And it also disregards all the people Ock has murdered in his schemes - including Captain Stacy, who appears in the psychic battle. So while it is in character for Ock to essentially remain a violent arrogant bully even as an anti-hero and to make a moral equivalence argument, I thought Peter buying it to the point that he gives up his psychic struggle for his own life that he caves to his enemy to be nearly as much of a character misinterpretation as Peter agreeing to a deal with the devil to save his aunt even after said aunt told him to be happy with his wife and let her go. My issue with this issue isn't the end result per say, but the method of getting there despite the mostly good execution until the climax.

Thank you, Dread for pointing this out because this was the main gripe I had with this issue. Even though Slott intent for the scene was the show Peter had a moment of weakness that Doc Ock exploited and used to bully Peter into submission with, not did this issue establish that Peter Parker is the kind of person who, out of desperation, is so self-centered to put a risk the life of a helpless innocent child just to save his own skin (yes, I know Peter is capable of making bad mistakes and errors in judgement, but I thought that was just complete BS) but, as you point out, because the story requires Peter to lose and that he doesn't properly challenge Doc Ock's accusations, it winds up saying that Peter, at the very least, is no better than Doc Ock--which, as you point out, is utterly ridiculous.

Dread, I have enjoyed reading your various reviews. But, I have to say, and excuse me if I read you wrong, but I think you read this issue wrong. I don't think Slott was saying Ock's argument was "right," or that Ock was morally "superior." It was Ock that was saying it, from his point of view. Ock knows Pete (even better now) and Pete's sense of responsibility and sense of guilt and he uses this one slip up of Pete against him. It is classic Pete. His guilt defeats him. I don't think Slott was saying Ock was in fact "superior."

Dread said:
As I said in my review, I didn't have a problem with Ock taking the moral equivalence route in their psychic duel. And I am aware that Slott isn't necessarily saying that Ock is "superior" than Peter in the role per say, even if now and again Peter would acknowledge when he had a good idea. My issue was that Peter bought it and caved. My issue was the method, not the outcome. Going in, especially seeing future solicitations, I knew the "superior" era was not ending, and that a confrontation HAD to go Ock's way.

It reminds me a bit of what Mark Waid said about his story in Amazing Spider-Man #623 - #624:

"Fun" Fact: My least favorite Spider-Man story that I did was the two-parter in which Peter blew his photography career. (Issues #623 - 624.) Not because I thought it was a particularly bad story - it was beautifully drawn by Paul Azaceta - but because, in retrospect, I really, really mishandled the whole "Peter faked a photo" plot development, for which I apologize from the bottom of my heart to the other writers and to the fans. I still think at the heart of it was a good, clever, very series - appropriate idea - Spider-Man has to throw Peter Parker under a bus to save J. Jonah Jameson - but I'd give anything to be able to go back and rewrite it to make Pete's moment of sacrifice and choice more dramatic. In my mind, Peter wasn't sloppy or stupid - he knew what he was doing violated journalistic ethics, but it was either that or let JJJ be criminally framed for something he didn't do - a classic Spider-Man sacrifice play. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, I did a spectacularly crappy job of translating that to the printed page and ended up accomplishing the opposite of what I'd intended. In my failed attempt to make Peter seem supremely responsible, I ended up making him look incredibly irresponsible - which is a mortal sin.

In other words, the author's intentions for the story can differ from what is actually shown in the story.
 
Bought/Thought for May 8, 2013

I went to the shop not being sure what I was buying. I knew two titles I was getting but I was questioning whether to pick up three others that came out. I ended up leaving one of the three behind: Thor God of Thunder. It's a good series and I've enjoyed it, but I need to drop stuff and ultimately decided that, while I like the book, I wouldn't necessarily miss it. So I passed on the title and feel pretty good about it. Not regretting it, I think I can call that a drop. I'm actually starting to like where my buying is. It's under my limit, but I'd like to get lower. So the other two books that were on the fence are still on the fence. Those two were Batman & Robin and Uncanny X-Force.


Uncanny X-Force 4 - I was going to leave this one behind until I saw that it was the concluding chapter of the first arc. For as uninteresting and off as I've found this title, there's still something that draws me to it. Part of that is Bishop's role and a part of it is what's going on with Fantomex. The art is good and the writer's not bad, but it's just been a bottom tier title for me.Well, I bought it and ended up enjoying this issue quite a bit. The art was fantastic and I'm glad that Humphries has potentially laid the groundwork for a Bishop redemption story. I was put off on the Fantomex story in issue 1 but I'm growing more intrigued now.

I also love seeing Garney on an X-Book again. I don't know how long that will last since he's doing the next arc of Thor, but I hope it lasts. So for now, I'll stick with this book. It's still on a leash, but since my buying is fairly decent now, I'm giving it a little more time.

Batman & Red Hood 20 - Formerly Batman & Robin, this title is sorta lacking something without Damian. He was the reason I bought the book to begin with and Tomasi and Gleason have made me love it. Sadly, it just isn't the same book anymore. I like the Robins, and this team-up story has been fun, but I just don't see myself buying this long term. They're still dealing with Damian's death, and that keeps me coming back, but my buying this title ongoing will determine on what news comes of Tomasi's epic arc that's coming up next. We'll see.

Batman 20 - Part two to Snyder's two part "the Animated Series" type of story and it's pretty decent. If it were dragged out I'd be annoyed, but for a two parter it was actually a fun read. Clayface is cool and I think Snyder handled the plot well. Capullo's pencils were good as always. The only problem with me was that it was obviously a filler arc. It was enjoyable, but still filler to bridge the gap between Death of the Family and Year Zero.

Still, it was good. The back up story, however, did nothing for me. The art was good, the story was just blah.

Heh, kudos to Snyder for making an in continuity appearance of Bruce wearing the Batman Beyond suit :D

Uncanny Avengers 8 - It seems like the biggest complaint people have on this book is how Remender will write what the art could be telling. As a novel-writer, that doesn't bother me, but I noticed it in this issue. And yes, it was a little annoying.

That said, I think the issue was fun. I like Sunfire's showing here and still get annoyed at every word that comes out of Janet's mouth. The Apocalypse Twins were interesting but Remender's not done anything yet to make me care about them. I'm eager to get into the meat and bones of the story, and I'm particularly eager to get to the Four Horsemen of Death. This is still in the building stage, but I'm hoping it picks up soon.

I'm loving Acuna on this book. I feel he's a great pick for the mood of the title, better than Cassiday by far, and I hope he stays long term.


Best and Worst of the Week

Best: Batman 20 - None of them overly impressed me this week, but this one was the top of the bunch. The art and story were great and I was engaged. Works for me.

Worst: Uncanny Avengers 8 - Also, none of the books were bad, so this being here isn't really fair either. It was a good story but I found that I was bored in parts, mostly when Remender went a little long-winded with the caption blocks. I like the characters and gist of the story but I'd like to see it moved along. I have a feeling I like where it's going.
 
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Got a bunch of other books to read this week, but wanted to get my thoughts down on these two first. My shop didn't get Avengers #11 today, so I just assumed it was postponed. Turns out it did come out today, so I gotta pick one up from another store on the way home from work. :mad:

Only issues I picked up this afternoon at the shop (I got a few others digitally) were Batman #20 and Star Wars #5. Batman was good. It felt a little like filler, yeah, but a nice two part story was a welcome change of pace from Snyder's "this is the biggest baddest story I can tell" attitude. It was pure fun, with a sweet, emotional ending. Capullo once again keeps knocking it out of the park. One thing I enjoyed was I now know what Cyclops Batman looks like. ;)

Star Wars #5 was absolutely incredible. The best of the series so far. The last two dropped in quality just a little bit, but this one had all the makings of a superb issue -- an amazing dogfight, Han and Chewie in the Coruscant underworld, mentions of Ben, Leia's bravery, and a chilling appearance from Vader.
 
Thor God of Thunder #8 - very first page.....greatest line from Old King Thor to present Thor:

"Hela's pale bosom, boy! Go polish thine hammer or practice growing a beard before I cast thy ass overboard!"

:woot: I lol'd at that one!

:up:
 
Thor God of Thunder #8 - very first page.....greatest line from Old King Thor to present Thor:

"Hela's pale bosom, boy! Go polish thine hammer or practice growing a beard before I cast thy ass overboard!"

:woot: I lol'd at that one!

:up:
This book is still one of my top faves, not just the amazing art, but yeah, the writing is top notch. :)
 

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