Sequels The Original Cast Appreciation Thread

[magneto23]

No it wouldn't, he can be slave, same as Beast, Mystique.
He needs more time on screen, Archangel is really cool character and he's Apocalypse's horseman. He has to be in one of next movies, where Apocalypse is main villain since now. So I don't see anything weird in that.

A lot of time if they were going to be going for a story like this. That's why they should have brought the character back for DOFP. Flesh out the character some. Make the audeince start to care about Angel(because TLS sure didn't).

 

[kasjan]

GA recognize and remember him enough from TLS.
Do we need in DOFP a character that will have much screen time in one of next movies? No.

 

[Angamb]

I get the point of using Angel a bit more, but I think Dofp isnt the movie.

He can easily return on next movie, and leave the Archangel transformation for the final act of the movie. They can develop it in two movies, so no need to rush it and use him in this movie with so many characters already in.

 

[kasjan]

This.

 

[Angamb]

And I say that with Angel being my fave X-Man, lol. Next to Rogue, of course.

 

[kasjan]

I want him in Archangel mode, this is one of my favorite mutants. I like blue mutants: Nightcrawler, Beast, Archangel, only Mystqiue I don't like.

 

[Angamb]

lol

I like all, but yeah, team X-Men all day.

Id love seeing Angel, Kurt and Beast sharing some screentime, that would be soooooo awesome. Three unique and special characters, in my book, and both Warren and Hank were original X-Men, so would be a great nod seeing them on the big screen sharing some words or fighting together.

If only Fox gave the greenlight to X5 already...

 

[psylockolussus]

They still have contracts, Fox won't just let them go, especially with Fassbender and Lawrence being the most on demand actors right now.
Also, if younger versions of Scott and Jean are introduced in the past, these characters will have more dimension next time we see them in a future movie with the original cast.

Sure, but do they have to dedicate a 2hour film just for that? They could just go back and forth in the present and the flashbacks.

 

[psylockolussus]

A lot of time if they were going to be going for a story like this. That's why they should have brought the character back for DOFP. Flesh out the character some. Make the audeince start to care about Angel(because TLS sure didn't).

Now that you said that.

I would have been happier if we got Angel back in DOFP and I don't mind if that would mean new characters like Sunspot and Warpath will be axed.

 

[Rike]

Sure, but do they have to dedicate a 2hour film just for that? They could just go back and forth in the present and the flashbacks.

Do you think they would like to be anchors for the original cast?

 

[psylockolussus]

Do you think they would like to be anchors for the original cast?

I just don't think the constant need of going back and forth in the present and the past is really good for the franchise. Like setting a whole movie in the past then setting the next movie in the present then the next one in the past again.

Just look at this:
Origins/First Class - set in the past
The Wolverine - set in the present
DOFP - starts in the present but most of it are set in the past
Apocalypse - set in the past
5th OT film - set in the present

Ughhh talk about going back and forth in the past and present. With 7 X-Men films now, its not very easy for the casuals to follow the whole timeline. At least with a film set in the present and yet filled with flashbacks, the mainstream audience won't have that "oh its another prequel" "where does this film set after" effect. In my opinion, just move forward in the present. If there's something really important in the past that needs to be shown, just show it in a flashback scene, not dedicate a whole movie for it.

 

[Rike]

I just don't think the constant need of going back and forth in the present and the past is really good for the franchise. Like setting a whole movie in the past then setting the next movie in the present then the next one in the past again.

Just look at this:
Origins/First Class - set in the past
The Wolverine - set in the present
DOFP - starts in the present but most of it are set in the past
Apocalypse - set in the past
5th OT film - set in the present

Ughhh talk about going back and forth in the past and present. At least with a film set in the present and yet filled with flashbacks, the mainstream audience won't have that "oh its another prequel" "where does this film set after" effect.

Days of Future Past is mostly set in the past. Apocalypse will be set after that, but still in the past. It's pretty simple.
And if the idea of another movie with the original cast fulfil, they'll give it another jump to the future. It will be a natural and consistent progression - PAST > FUTURE

 

[psylockolussus]

Days of Future Past is mostly set in the past. Apocalypse will be set after that, but still in the past. It's pretty simple.
And if the idea of another movie with the original cast fulfil, they'll give it another jump to the future. It will be a natural and consistent progression - PAST > FUTURE

It is still going back and forth to the present and past. At some point, it has to stop unless you don't think its not affecting the box-office of these films.

Days of Future Past will start in the present and I think it will end in the present. And for me, the magic is lost in doing movies set in the past with the FC cast, when you already brought back the cast that started the franchise.

Do you think they would like to be anchors for the original cast?

Being shown in the flashback scenes doesn't mean they are downgraded to supporting roles. It could be 50/50 or 60/40 (60 as the percentage for the flashback scenes) just like most of LOST episodes.

And business-wise, doing an OT film with a bunch of Flashback scenes featuring the FC cast would bank more money, than the 3rd FC film which won't feature the OT cast except for few actors.

 

[Angamb]

and the discussion stopped again, lol

 

[Rike]

and the discussion stopped again, lol

Sometimes you get tired of beating dead horses.

 

[psylockolussus]

or you just don't know what to respond next because clearly what I just said...

And business-wise, doing an OT film with a bunch of Flashback scenes featuring the FC cast would bank more money, than the 3rd FC film which won't feature the OT cast except for few actors.

is true.

Its only beating dead horses when some people can't accept other people's opinions.

and the discussion stopped again, lol

You like to LOL at lot, do you?

 

[henzINNIT]

or you just don't know what to respond next because clearly what I just said is true.

Its only beating dead horses when some people can't accept other people's opinions.

These two statements seem contradictory. Way to beat a dead horse whilst calling it a black kettle.

 

[def28]

-How it should differ from the Original Trilogy?

-More character and relationship development
-Wolverine is used in moderation and shares the screen time.
-Better use of powers and team battles
-Development of Students/Danger room training
-No more mute villains or one line supporting characters.
-No more Stryker

-Which characters do you want to return?

All of them are great characters imo. Depends on the story. Can't really go wrong, it's just if they use them more to their potential.

Gotta have Cyclops though.

-Which new characters do you want to see?

Not all at once obviously but in general...
Cable, Archangel, Psylocke, Domino, Deadpool, Sage, Quentin Quire, Husk, Fantomex, Cannonball, Magik, Stepford Cuckoos, Polaris, Sunfire, Dazzler, X-23, Hellion, Mercury, Tempus and Chamber.

-Which storylines should be adapted? The classic comics or the modern comics?

Both. Take the good, leave the bad and combine.

 

[Angamb]

def, your characters list is for a sequel in present time, or in the 80's?

 

[def28]

def, your characters list is for a sequel in present time, or in the 80's?

Present. Even Dazzler is relevant to the current generation with the obsessed EDM scene. Never thought I'd see the day were kids mosh to Dance music haha. Probably could do cooler things with her powers in relation to modern electronic sounds. I'd be fine with a few of those in the past as well like Sunfire, Sage, Polaris, Cannonball and Dazzler. Just depends on the route they go. I want the 80s to be mostly starring Jean, Cyclops, Gambit, Storm etc. With only one or two brand new mutants and some returning First Class and DOFP characters.

Cable and Deadpool are safe as their powers and abilities let them exist through time, but there are a select few I don't want stuck in the past. Like Psylocke, Domino, Magik, Fantomex and the younger students I mentioned. The OT need to have younger characters as students and I definitely don't want main X-Force members in the past like Betsy and Fantomex. If they separate Psylocke, Angel and Fantomex in different timelines I will not forgive them haha.

 

[Angamb]

I agree with most points, except Gambit in the past, hehe.

Gambit should be with older crew, imo. Gambit and Rogue is like a must on any X-Men series. And its about time.

The age thing is "a problem" to some fans, but movies aren real, are fiction, and these liberties are taken soooooooooooooooooooooooo many times.

Best example: FC actors playing their roles "11 years older" but just 3 years after FC. so.... thats the thing. Its a creative license.

 

[Duran Man]

Why do Gambit and Rogue need to be a couple?




[BLACKOUT]I'd go for Gambit and Storm instead.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[def28]

I agree with Gambit and Rogue. That's a strong selling couple people want to see. But I don't know how they are gonna do that.

Storm and Gambit both start off as thieves and Gambits first appearance has to do with Storm as well so I think he's a good fit with a younger Ororo in the 80s, and it lines up better with what they have. Storm needs someone to be developed with pretty bad imo.

 

[universeman]

Gambit and Rogue! yes a million times yes! as for Storm she can end up with BP!

 

[Rike]

They ignored the Emma Frost from Origins, they'll probably do the same thing with Gambit.