The Paris Hilton Fiasco Threads Merged

[Spider-Bite]

Don't be daft about it, man. Getting time off for good behavior usually requires some kind of trigger, like having good behaviour. By the logic you're repeating, I could go to jail, and then start food fights, riots and whatever, and still get time off.

No I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you do what your told to do by the corrections officers. When the security guard says make your bed, eat, be quiet, dont' make a scene, don't get in fights, don't throw stuff, dont' beat on the bars.

Most inmates do what they have to do in order to get out as soon as possible.

 

[jaguarr]

you know it's the norm.

See below...

Don't be daft about it, man. Getting time off for good behavior usually requires some kind of trigger, like having good behaviour. By the logic you're repeating, I could go to jail, and then start food fights, riots and whatever, and still get time off.

Bingo. And regardless of what may happen commonly, in certain cases where the attitude of the sentenced is deplorable, the judge in the case can and often does order the full sentence to be served with no chance for time off for good behavior. I've seen it happen myself when I worked in the courts.

jag

 

[Badger]

No I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you do what your told to do by the corrections officers. When the security guard says make your bed, eat, be quiet, dont' make a scene, don't get in fights, don't throw stuff, dont' beat on the bars.

Most inmates do what they have to do in order to get out as soon as possible.

And, when has she ever did what she was told?

 

[Spider-Bite]

*sigh* We've been over this. The sentence is not a week in jail. The COMMUTED sentence can sometimes be a week in jail.



No, the Sheriff does NOT have the authority to release prisoners without the consent of the judge. That's why the Sheriff has his ass in a sling for letting Paris out early.



He's in deep poop for doing it because he's not authorized to do so.



Wrong.



I doubt he'll do it because it's not in his authority and his doing it this time around has launched an investigation by the media into his history of taking bribes and favors, which could turn into a real legal problem for him.



He gave her a pretty fair sentence the first time around, which she did nothing but b1tch and moan about and act like she shouldn't be subject to. I'm sure that didn't make him happy. But he let her keep her original sentence. Then, when the Sheriff let her out on house arrest when he was specifically ordered not to, she refused to come in to court and just wanted to call in which irked the judge I am sure, so he had to send a patrol car to pick her ass up. He didn't set her up for anything, she did it to herself. Personal responsibility; it's something Paris has a problem with as BadgerPhil's already pointed out.



Why has it completely eluded you that she's NOT getting extra jail time. At all. She's simply having to serve her full sentence, most likely because of her attitude. She's certainly not the first person it's happened to, and she won't be the last. And, she's in protective custody, not solitary confinement. Learn the difference, please.




My friend Jason who got a DWI and got caught driving without his license. He got 60 days and had to serve two full weeks of it PLUS community service and probation. And I know that judge. Had my friend been a snot towards him over it, he'd have gotten the full sentence. I told ya....45 days is not an uncommon sentence.

jag

I'm sorry man, but your post is simply not the truth. It's not. She is getting harsher treatment because she is paris hilton, and that is the reason. If her name was Joe Blow she would have gotten a week in jail, and according to the law, the sheriff has the authority to do it. They even freaking quoted the law last night on the news.

It was on Abrams new show. the normal sentence would have been 5 to 7 days, and the sheriff has the authority to do this, and he does it every single day.

 

[Calvin]

Spider-bite still doesn't seem to grasp that there's a reason there are minimum and maximum boundaries for sentence times assigned to particular crimes. Actually, I don't think Spider-bite is even grasping that there ARE minimum and maximum boundaries for a range of possible sentencing. Seems to think that judges are only allowed to assign the exact same amount to every single person regardless of attitude or circumstance.

 

[jaguarr]

I'm sorry man, but your post is simply not the truth. It's not. She is getting harsher treatment because she is paris hilton, and that is the reason. If her name was Joe Blow she would have gotten a week in jail, and according to the law, the sheriff has the authority to do it. They even freaking quoted the law last night on the news.

Haha! Goddamn you are dense. And thanks for calling me a liar, you piece of rubbish. Watch what happens to the Sheriff for letting her out early and you'll see what the law allows for. He was specifically ordered to NOT let her out on house arrest, which he did anyway. He also allowed for the medical problem reason for an inmate to be released (without a formal statement from a doctor about it, I might add) but the judge determined there was no evidence of a medical problem when he reviewed her case and ordered her back in the can. The Sheriff is not legally allowed to just commute sentences on a whim. There has to be a legitimate, court-allowed reason for it and house arrest is something they often do but were specifically ordered not to in this case.

It was on Abrams new show. the normal sentence would have been 5 to 7 days, and the sheriff has the authority to do this, and he does it every single day.

They're talking about the COMMUTED sentence. Goddamn you are dense.

jag

 

[jaguarr]

Spider-bite still doesn't seem to grasp that there's a reason there are minimum and maximum boundaries for sentence times assigned to particular crimes. Actually, I don't think Spider-bite is even grasping that there ARE minimum and maximum boundaries for a range of possible sentencing. Seems to think that judges are only allowed to assign the exact same amount to every single person regardless of attitude or circumstance.

Exactly, which is pretty much what I've been pointing out; judges have the discretion to make whatever call they want to within their legal boundaries for each individual case. There is not a one size fits all sentence, nor are their one size fits all rules for every inmate regarding having a sentence commuted for whatever reason. It is up to the discretion of the judge (or a jury, in the instances where a jury might be involved in sentencing).

jag

 

[04nbod]

I'm sorry man, but your post is simply not the truth. It's not. She is getting harsher treatment because she is paris hilton, and that is the reason. If her name was Joe Blow she would have gotten a week in jail, and according to the law, the sheriff has the authority to do it. They even freaking quoted the law last night on the news.

i honestly don't mind her getting made an example of and thats not because i don't like her. She is a figure in the spotlight,someone who is in a crowd of lawbreakers like lohan the alledged drug user and alcoholic and she is the ringleader. It is not only saying to people that what paris did was wrong but what her whole troop is doing is wrong. Hopefully it makes young girls turn away and not want to emulate her. The judge is delivering a public service, its probably not fair to paris but i bet you she won't do it again and her entourage and clingers will think twice as well

 

[Warhammer]

Geez, well we obviously know that Paris Hilton's agent is in the thread.

 

[lloevs]

Less of this boring legals taking and mores pic of Paris in the car crying

 

[jaguarr]

Less of this boring legals taking and mores pic of Paris in the car crying

And less typing in broken English.

jag

 

[lloevs]

And less typing in broken English.

jag

an less presume english everyones first language

lloevs

 

[jaguarr]

an less presume english everyones first language

lloevs

And less caring whether it's their first language or not.

jag

 

[Badger]

English should be everyones first language!!

 

[PhotoJones]

English should be everyones first language!!

False.

 

[Drakon]

And less bickering.

Drak

 

[jaguarr]

And less moderator intervention!

jag

 

[Badger]

False.

LIAR!! :Sarcasm: :heart:

 

[lloevs]

And less caring whether it's their first language or not.

jag

And less of lookings like a racisit loser

 

[jaguarr]

And less of lookings like a racisit loser

And less not being able to take a joke!

jag

 

[PhotoJones]

And less moderator intervention!

jag

Well, that goes without saying.

 

[Badger]

And less of lookings like a racisit loser

Ok, now I'm officially stoping. :werejustjokinggeesh:

 

[Drakon]

And less thinking I was seriously invading as a mod and more thinking I just want to take my pants off

 

[Badger]

Well nobody want's that....

...okay maybe I do.

 

[jaguarr]

And less thinking I was seriously invading as a mod and more thinking I just want to take my pants off

And less giving me unsettling, haunting visuals.

jag