I once read some place that the idea of calling your team the Masters of Evil is saying something more than a scary name. Its saying they know they are evil, and maybe its a necessary evil. Or maybe its meant to be more like a heroic sounding name, they are the masters of evil, evil can't do anything with them in charge because they are so heroic. But most likely if they use them they will probably change it the same way they changed Magneto's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, which became the Brotherhood. They will go from the Masters of Evil to simply being called the Masters.
I like the idea of the team being:
Baron Zemo, who is revealed to have a past with Captain America (or his ancestors do).
Crossbones
Sin
Madam Masque
Enchantress
Executioner
Melter or Abomination
Because its mostly normal guys with guns and body armor like Crossbones, Zemo, or Madam Masque, but then there is also Enchantress and Executioner in their traditional Asgardian armor. and maybe a monster character like Abomination. Since the Avengers were pretty much normal human SHIELD agents, then Thor, Iron Man, and Cap. Really just three special guys. And then a monster Hulk (who was never meant to be on the team, just Banner as a scientist).
Zemo
Abomination
Crossbones
Malekith
Kurse
Manderin
Radioactive Man
a variation of these guys.
no. they aren't just going to pull characters from no where for avengers 2. again, unless enchantress and executioner appear in thor (which they probably won't) they won't be in an avengers movie...
IF we get the MoE, it will be a variation of these characters most likely
Zemo
Abomination
Crossbones
Malekith
Kurse
Manderin
Radioactive Man
a variation of these guys.
Marvel studios isn't going to just pull characters out of thin air. Especially since Thanos IS confirmed for Avengers 2. If he assembles, some sort of MoE, then said characters will already be introduced during Phase 2.
Zemo, Enchantress, and Abomination are not lame and if Thanos brings them all together audiences will love just as much as they loved seeing the Avengers team up.
I forgot about Radioactive Man! Yes, please!
Red Skull as their Cap
Radioactive Man as their Iron Man
Abomination as their Hulk
Crossbones as their Widow
Justin Hammer as their Fury
Kurse as their Thor
It's an awesome set up, imho.
You're way too good at that. I hope you're writing something somewhere. But I don't think there are 5-6 villains who would sign up for "Masters of Evil" without it being a stretch. Perhaps he bills it as the Masters, and only in the end does Zemo's full madness come out in front of his peers he slides in that dialogue in reply to some point. "Masters of Evil, of course..."
KangConquers said:I'd drop Hammer, and make Thanos the Nick Fury. Have him assemble this group at the promise of great power, in hopes of distracting the Avengers from his plan to gain the Infinity Gauntlet.
I'd drop Hammer, and make Thanos the Nick Fury. Have him assemble this group at the promise of great power, in hopes of distracting the Avengers from his plan to gain the Infinity Gauntlet.
Again, it's all about how you play it. Like, The Abomination from The Incredible Hulk, I could see that guy joining up with the MoE for a chance to wreck ****. All Zemo would need to do is collect the right number of (and please excuse me for quoting the Harry Potter books for a second) "the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty."
Like, that's how real life cults and terrorist organizations start. Jim Jones and Charles Manson spouted off nonsense that made them sound like lunatics, but to the right people it sounds like gospel. And super villains, who by their very nature are socially deviant and exist outside of social norms, would be pretty good targets for that kind of sales pitch.
I like that, that's cleaner. I still see Hammer around, either in his own suit or controlling some drones. It also helps with the outnumbering problem a smaller Masters of Evil would have, especially with the Avengers adding 1 or 2 to their roster.
Hmmm... individual pitch moments could be interesting, and it could also show the brilliance of Thanos/Red Skull in getting the right order of people. Abomination and Kurse would probably go for 'Evil' pretty quickly, being they are of the aformentioned thuggish variety, while Crossbones and especially Radioactive Man are in it for other reasons.
On Red Skull
While I like Zemo and respect the comics, the plain fact is that if the Cube does open 'on the other end' then Red Skull went straight to Thanos 50 years ago. He's Thanos' foremost resource and most accessible agent for manipulating humanity. It only makes sense he'd send Skull. There's really no better plot point for Red Skull to come back on.
I just hope they can get Hugo Weaving to get over himself, give him something to chew on, some nefarious twisted 'gospel' to preach and let him do it up.
Uh. Who said anything about Masters of Evil for Avengers 2?
I'd drop Hammer, and make Thanos the Nick Fury. Have him assemble this group at the promise of great power, in hopes of distracting the Avengers from his plan to gain the Infinity Gauntlet.
Thing is, I'd prefer the Masters of Evil to not be Thanos-related. Like, once the dust has settled and the alien menace is defeated, you have some human, like Zemo, rising up and saying the Avengers showed how the world is different now, and he's here to show the consequences of that. That's more interesting to me.
Plus, if Thanos is looking to get more directly involved in Earth's affairs, I don't want to see him working through proxies like the Masters. Doesn't really feel like him, and we already got a bit of that with Loki.