The Prestige

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Here is a possible theory I am not saying this is not how it happened just an idea I am throwing out.

Remember Angier's drunken double? What if Angier had hired him that night knowing that Borden would be there? What if Angier planned to drown him knowing that people would believe it was him?
 
That sounds logical, it actually makes sense.
 
Saw it today. It was very good and one of the m ost enjoyable movies of the year. I mean it probably isn't close to a best picture nominee but very few have been as entertaining t owatch this far (and that includes The Departed).

I thought Nolan did a good job and the cast was all top-notch. The ending I got almost all of save for Bale having a brother. But a terrific suspense yarn with some creativity behind it. Nolan hasn't created a mind**** like this since Memento and I am VERY happy to see him back at doing what he does best.
 
The part when
Angier breaks his leg due to Borden moving the safety pillow, Good Lord that made me cringe *SNAP!*
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
Here is a possible theory I am not saying this is not how it happened just an idea I am throwing out.

Remember Angier's drunken double? What if Angier had hired him that night knowing that Borden would be there? What if Angier planned to drown him knowing that people would believe it was him?

that doesn't fit with the explanation they give us in the movie. it's all spelled out right there at the end.
 
cryptic name said:
that doesn't fit with the explanation they give us in the movie. it's all spelled out right there at the end.

Yeah but the ending shot and sentence seemed like there was something there that we weren't seeing. I thought it ws suggesting that it was like a magic trick. We were seeing something but there was something more to it. I dunno maybe it was clear cut and I am just over thinking it.
 
unknownuser said:
That is what exactly happened. He killed himself every night just for that one night when Borden showed up.

that and he didn't want copies of himself running around running the risk of exposing how the trick was done.
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
Yeah but the ending shot and sentence seemed like there was something there that we weren't seeing. I thought it ws suggesting that it was like a magic trick. We were seeing something but there was something more to it. I dunno maybe it was clear cut and I am just over thinking it.

it was like a magic trick in that we wanted it to be more "magical" than it actually was. the audiance can't accept that they were fooled by something so simple
just like angier with borden's trick
 
cryptic name said:
it was like a magic trick in that we wanted it to be more "magical" than it actually was. the audiance can't accept that they were fooled by something so simple
just like angier with borden's trick

Which audience?
 
Wow....the movie was incredible. Certainly one of the best of seen this year. I really want to a see it a second time, just to clarify my thoughts about it.
 
Yeah, I missed the first few minutes, had to rush into the theater.
 
The movie opening at number one is a big victory for stars Jackman and Bale, and not only cuz it surpassed Flags when most analysts thought it was going to beat them. For Jackman, who hasn´t found much success outside of the X-Men movies, it prevents him from being typecast as Wolverine - at least in movies, since he´s also a successful Broadway star and TV performer. For Bale, it means BB wasn´t a fluke in a career that, while respectful, hadn´t found much commercial success.
 
ultimatefan said:
The movie opening at number one is a big victory for stars Jackman and Bale, and not only cuz it surpassed Flags when most analysts thought it was going to beat them. For Jackman, who hasn´t found much success outside of the X-Men movies, it prevents him from being typecast as Wolverine - at least in movies, since he´s also a successful Broadway star and TV performer. For Bale, it means BB wasn´t a fluke in a career that, while respectful, hadn´t found much commercial success.

Dang, you pretty much nailed it.
 
Terrific film. Nolan is 5 for 5 at this point. No doubt that TDK and The Prisoner will make him 7 for 7.

Kept everything excellent from the book and left out the needless stuff. Bale, Bowie, and Serkis were the highlights. Jackman, Johnansson, and Caine did great jobs too. My roommate (who hadn't read the book) saw it and was stunned. Proclaimed it best movie of the year, and he's a tough critic. I think I agree with him.
 
pretty damn good film. I pretty much had the whole thing figured out halfway, but it was the emotional investment i found myself having in the characters towards the end that made the movie great. such irony.
 
Secret_Riddle said:
1. its a duplicate. the first time he did the trick the original was killed in the tank. the next night it was the dupicate that was killed and the next night it was the new duplicate and so on and so forth. he would never have any idea if he was going to be in the tank or the one who appears on the stage because the duplicate never has memories of the one who came before him drowing, so the cycle repeats over and over and the new duplicate will never know the outcome of the trick because of course the duplicate would believe he is the original. It was symbolic to show that jackman was so obsessed with finding out bales secret that he did terrible things, spent millions, traveled half way around the world and in the end killed himself 100 times just to duplicate bale and all along bale just had a twin. its also symbolic to show that jackmans obsession with discovering the trick has totally changed him. At the begining of the movie he says that he doesnt want to kill doves because he does not believe the trick is worth somethings life. In the end he kills himself each night just to duplicate bales trick. It shows that he loses his fear to "get his hands dirty" in other words he loses his innocence. I believe the final scene of the movie shows the original jackman dead in the tank. Hes really been dead since the first time he did the trick. he died when he decided that a trick was worth somethings life, in this case, his. i hope that helps


i believe he did because hugh jackman says cutter knew all along but i just thot it was to simple i didnt believe him. we have to remember that cutter was working with bale against jackman for quite a while. remember that bale made jackman believe that he was using the machine for his trick and cutter helped him. cutter told jackman to go to the science convention so he would see bale looking at the machine. then when jackman a machine shooting electricity in bales show assumed the machine was involved in the trick even though it really wasnt doing anything. then when bale gave him the code which was the scientists name it only made jackman sure that he was right. cutter and bale worked against jackman

i don't agree on 2, but 1 is brilliant. thanks for the insight.
 
Nolan is a genius for making us argue like this. I don't think we'll ever agree on what exactly happened in that movie. ****ing brilliant :up:

Unless of course he explains it to us by form of an interview or on the DVD...
 
Hi, everyone.

I saw this excellent film on Friday. I have been anticipating this flick for a long time and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Everything about it was so great -- the acting, the writing, the design, the costumes, the editing, the directing. I loved it all. The twist, or should I say twists, were very clever; however, I still feel as though I am missing some important things, but I'm sure this can be fixed by another viewing next weekend (a lot of it is rather confusing -- I mean, I understood that [BLACKOUT]Bale had a clone/twin[/BLACKOUT] and that [BLACKOUT]Jackman was basically cloning himself and killing himself every night with his trick[/BLACKOUT], but there are some details I need clarified still).

Anyway, I just loved the little things in this flick, like [BLACKOUT]how Borden's magic trick at the beginning of the flick (the disappearing/reappearing bird) just completely foreshadows Hugh Jackman's trick at the end (i.e. you have to kill one bird/clone before his "brother" appears to the audience -- which also is a nod to Borden himself since his "brother/twin" is the key to his magic trick).[/BLACKOUT]

I don't want to repeat anything anyone else has already said, but I just wanted to mention that one nice little touch that I don't think anyone has pointed out yet. I cannot wait to see this again...
 
I saw it yesterday. Easily one of the best movies I've seen this year.
 
Just came back from the theatre and wow! This is the best movie of the year! I was planning on movie hopping, watch Departed after but this movie was sooo good it deserved the one movie ticket!!!
 
Cinemaman said:
I didn't read spoilers, because I don't want to know 99% of the movie before I'll see it.

But from what I read in the book, Bale's character was supposed to be a mysterious figure.

If I'm understanding you right you are saying that you didn't read the stuff I have a spoilers or any of the spoilers , right ? If so good for you I know you have to wait to see the movie until January when it comes to your country . Even if you have read the book I don't think you are spoiled about all the twists and turns the Nolan brothers have in the movie. If you did read the spoilers and felt I gave too much info ,my apologies but like I said before the are plenty of twists in the movie so there is still lots to look forward to .

As far as Bale's character is concerned he is really mysterious . I loved the way Bale played the part he is everything I expected from Borden and more.
 
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