The Professor's Outcome

[RockSP]

Yeah your right. It wasn't much of a battle. Xavier got owned.

Yeah, but all he did was talk to her...him and Magneto.

 

[Bullsear]

I completely agree with Perri. The scene was flat. I was really excited and eager to see what would happen, then Phoenix inexplicably blows Xavier into dust and the scene ends.
The music/sound effects were poorly mixed, the acting was average, and the Wolverine climbing across the ceiling was pointless. What could he have done anyway? It's not as though he could have stabbed her (like he did at the end) from the ceiling.
Bad development, bad pacing, bad story telling.

 

[The Kid]

X log: X-date June first, two thousand and six.

Captain Xavier of X-enterprise died with a goofy smile on his jiggly face.

wtf charles. Your step-brother was standing outside and you didn't even say hello?

You don't need to explain yourself? Charles... you just finished spilling all that info about how you tampered with jean's brain to create a phoenix thing and you don't want to talk about yor reasons? He's part of the team you created and enlisted him for and he's helped you save the world. you owe him something at least, charles.

 

[PowersOfMind]

I dont understand how anyone could not find this scene amazing and epic. It was the death of Professor X by the hands of one of his greatest and most powerful pupils. The music, his levitating out of his chair, Magneto screaming for Jean to stop... the first time I watched it I was in shock, the second time I teared up. The smile on his face meant that he knew he would survive in some form since I have to guess that at the moment he realized he was going to die he used his powers to put his mind in the body of a comatose man.

 

[The Kid]

I liked when his skin peeled off his hand a bit.

 

[Coreo]

Why do people keep calling that scene a "battle" between Jean and Xavier? There was no battle...

He did say, "Jean let me in!" He was trying to get into her mind, but she wasn't letting him. That's why they were just staring at each other like that before she stood up. They did have a battle to some extent, IMO.

 

[Drago]

I thought the scene was very well done with the exception of Prof X giving the last "Don't let it control you" comment- I thought that was cheesy and put there just to make it more dramatic. The scene itself was dramatic enough.

Really liked Mags yelling for jean to stop, and him giving the last yell for X's life before he got killed. His reaction was spot on I think- anyone else notice his quick "He's gone.." stare at Prof X's empty wheelchair after he got up?

Also, anyone else look at X's smile before he gets killed as a "F*** you Logan, I told you so" type of thing regarding Jean's need to be controlled. Thats how I saw it, it fits in with his 'darker' side in this film.

 

[X-Maniac]

And lastly Magneto was barely even scathed by this occurance.

Magneto anchored and shielded himself. Didn't you notice he was the only one not on the ceiling? He protected himself with some kind of magnetic field, with his arms outstretched. I suggest going to see the movie again and paying attention this time.

 

[LostSon88]

Also, anyone else look at X's smile before he gets killed as a "F*** you Logan, I told you so" type of thing regarding Jean's need to be controlled. Thats how I saw it, it fits in with his 'darker' side in this film.

You really think that was what Prof. was smilng for? You really think his final thoughts to Logan would be a "F*** you." type of attitude...no that last smile was kinda like a final acceptance/goodbye kinda smile.

 

[wiegeabo]

You really think that was what Prof. was smilng for? You really think his final thoughts to Logan would be a "F*** you." type of attitude...no that last smile was kinda like a final acceptance/goodbye kinda smile.

That's how I looked at it too. Also his way of saying that everything was going to be alright and work out (like he was trying to tell him he would transfer his mind).

 

[Joker831]

I thought the scene was very good. Everything blowing away and Jean showing her true bad ass power. A Mind battle going on between Charles and Jean, Charles being to stubborn to stop, everyone trying to get to her.

Magneto screaming for Jean to stop and when Charles goes, he screams for him obviously upset his longtime friend died. I saw plenty of emotion from him, especially in this movie. His words with Pyro about Charles, his anger when Logan tells him "He just let him die."

The whole scene was pretty damn good, one of the best of the film. I thought the movie was very good, things could of been different...sure, but i was satisfied and it's being said now this is not the last film probably, so things may be rectified.

 

[Warhammer]

Also, anyone else look at X's smile before he gets killed as a "F*** you Logan, I told you so" type of thing regarding Jean's need to be controlled. Thats how I saw it, it fits in with his 'darker' side in this film.

Wrong.

I agree with LostSon88.

 

[Drago]

Ok, I should take out that "F*** you Logan" part from what I said cause that makes it seem more over the top then what I'm talking about, but I still got that 'told you so' vibe- not in a stuck up kind of way, but in the sense that he was [sadly] right to make his choice to try and control her (after all, it was Logan and him that were arguing about it up until that point).

Not saying you guys are wrong, but I don't think it makes sense for him to reassure Logan of all people that he'll be alright- he has better relationships with all of the other characters. If he was to give a "hopeful" smile to anyone it would be either Jean or Mags (probably Mags), not Logan.

Again, not trying to say anyones wrong or to start arguments, but I like discussing this kind of stuff. Like I mentioned in my earlier post, anyone catch Magneto's look at the wheelchair before helping Jean up? It was just another one of those things that reinforces his relationship with Charles, gotta love it.

 

[Golgo-13]

I was a little disappointed by magneto's lack of emotion for the death of 'his old friend'. If the damn movie hadn't been so rushed it would have been a great opportunity for magneto not to be portrait as an insensitive bastard. Plus when Pyro 'disrepects the Professor towards the end, by telling Magneto "i could have killed him (the professor) long ago", or something to that effect, i thought Magneto would have been a bit more harsh towards Pyro and maybe put him in his place.

 

[LostSon88]

Whadda mean "lack of emotion"?

Mags was screaming for Jean to stop then he yelled out "Charles" seconds before he died...

And he scolded Pyro pretty well if you ask me...

Ian McKellen was perfect.

But hey, its all relative.

 

[X-Maniac]

I was a little disappointed by magneto's lack of emotion for the death of 'his old friend'. If the damn movie hadn't been so rushed it would have been a great opportunity for magneto not to be portrait as an insensitive bastard. Plus when Pyro 'disrepects the Professor towards the end, by telling Magneto "i could have killed him (the professor) long ago", or something to that effect, i thought Magneto would have been a bit more harsh towards Pyro and maybe put him in his place.

But he did put him in his place!!!!

He said: 'My dear boy, Charles did more for mutant rights than you'll ever know. it's my single greatest regret that he had to die for our dream to live."

 

[Drago]

The yelling at Jean and the comeback at Pyro, PLUS the chess scene. Apart from the moving the piece slightly, that was a pretty big thing that he was all alone- I don't think his cure was the only thing on his mind. and that stare at the wheelchair- subtle, but it got the point across.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

He was exploded like a pinata. Lamest death EVER!

 

[Warhammer]

The yelling at Jean and the comeback at Pyro, PLUS the chess scene. Apart from the moving the piece slightly, that was a pretty big thing that he was all alone- I don't think his cure was the only thing on his mind. and that stare at the wheelchair- subtle, but it got the point across.

I agree.
Ian McKellan as Magneto is the star of the X-films.

 

[Drago]

Yea, Ian McKellan's presence as Magneto is almost unreal, he's so talented (look at how feeble he was for Da Vinci compared to his Magneto). Aaron Stanford's got an amazing amount of talent too- I'm really hoping they take advantage of that and make him a villian of similar presence onscreen.

 

[XCharlieX]

Speaking of unreal... Phoenix blew me away. Incredible power. I now have a healthy fear of Phoenix

I think people who say Professor x died for no reason are incorrect. Professor X died trying to stop a force that could destroy mankind. Thats a very noble fate.

 

[Drago]

Yea, Pheonix was really good. Her explanation was crappy though ("she developed an entity known as the Pheonix" or whatever X said)- I was almost positive the Pheonix name would be given to her by Magneto in some epic speech though (something like "reborn like the Pheonix"). People complained that she didn't fight throughout the movie or anything, but it seemed fitting- the whole point of all that repressed psych was to show somewhat of a dichotomy (the big theme for the whole film I think), so I liked her being impartial/non-commital until it was an issue of survival. We repress these things to make us less like animals, so I was glad to see her act like one.

Back to Xavier, I agree that he did NOT die for no reason. For those saying you can't have the xmen without him, the school is symbolic enough of his ideals. The arc developed in the films is completed- he had regret over Jean (deleted scenes in X1 he talks about it, as with his regret at the end of X2 over her death), and he "died" in this film acknowledging that.

He may have transferred his consciousness after that scene, but I actually hope he doesn't go back to the school, and rather see development of some sort with Moira. I just don't think it makes sense for him to go back to the school, because he has that regret over getting Jean involved (plus it would make her death be in vain).

 

[theJust]

well if he didnt go back right away(if they ever decide to make 4) it would be just like the comics, he frequently has dissapeared from the school, and for his reasons, and for the xmen to figure things out on their own 'to learn' to work as a team.
so if he didnt come right away, it would be suiting.
but if he hangs out with moira for a time, i want to see Banshee sittin near by smokin a pipe!

 

[Golgo-13]

Whadda mean "lack of emotion"?

Mags was screaming for Jean to stop then he yelled out "Charles" seconds before he died...

And he scolded Pyro pretty well if you ask me...

Ian McKellen was perfect.

But hey, its all relative.

Well we must have seen two different movies then, because in the movie 'i' saw Pyro was not 'scolded' for disrepecting Charles, Magneto merely gave him a mini 'lecture'....

 

[LostSon88]

It wasn't a lecture moreso than it was of Magneto putting Pyro in his place.