The Reagan Thread

[hippie_hunter]

Let's see we have to deal with healthcare, unacceptably high unemployment, a fragile economy, a broken financial regulatory system, climate change, a soaring deficit, a belligerent and possibly soon-to-be nuclear Iran and two wars...

And this is a top Republican priority?

Grant as a president does not deserve to be on a bill. But then again, as a general he led the Union Army to victory in a war that decided the fate of America. So maybe he does in that regard...

Either way, here is a list of presidents more deserving to be on the $50 bill than Reagan:


-FDR
-Teddy Roosevelt
-Thomas Jefferson
-Harry Truman
-John Adams
-Dwight Eisenhower

and in a controversial bid of someone who shouldn't be on a bill, but deserves it more than Reagan...

JFK.

If we et bills for all those guys and they're still handing them out, sure Reagan can have one too.

JFK is the most overrated man in the entire history of the universe.

 

[The Overlord]

Yes.

No, it doesn't go far enough, we should build a giant gold of statue of him and worship it. Also we should sacrifice a goat to it every Thursday.

Also how much did Reagan reduce the debt by?

 

[Addendum]

Forget the presidents. Superman on the dollar, Batman on the 2, change the 5 to a 4 dollar and put the Fantastic Four on it, Spidey on the 10, Hulk on the 20, Captain America on the 100

For the coinage, villains.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Let's see we have to deal with healthcare, unacceptably high unemployment, a fragile economy, a broken financial regulatory system, climate change, a soaring deficit, a belligerent and possibly soon-to-be nuclear Iran and two wars...

And this is a top Republican priority?

Yeah because one congressman makes it a top priority for the Republican party


They should take Jackson off the $20. The most circulated bill should have Washington or Lincoln.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Forget the presidents. Superman on the dollar, Batman on the 2, change the 5 to a 4 dollar and put the Fantastic Four on it, Spidey on the 10, Hulk on the 20, Captain America on the 100

For the coinage, villains.

I like your thinking. Though replace everyone with Deadpool since he's in pretty much everything now

 

[Addendum]

Deadpool would be the Euro, and Liefeld's "art" would be on the peso or the Zimbabwean dollar (whichever is worth less)

 

[StorminNorman]

What did he do again?

There was that all "ended one of the worst regimes ever".

Reagan is quite possibly the most overrated President in US history and made no secret out of basically thinking poor people were scum.

FDR.

Is it weird that I imagined you moaning this?

Extremely.

I say get rid of Hamilton, Grant, and Franklin and replace them with FDR, Reagan, and Theodore Roosevelt.

Then redo the coins to get rid of the Presidents to commemorate other great Americans like Martin Luther King Jr., Susan B. Anthony (not in a crappy dollar coin), Benjamin Franklin, and Alexander Hamilton.

Also, get rid of the penny.

See, I think putting Presidents on the money isn't a great idea to begin with - it's too...royal. I mean, how many of today's problems are the result of FDR or Reagan policies? TR was the first progressive President. Lincoln was a dictator. FDR and Lincoln did more to damage American than the enemies of their wars could ever do.

The Founding Fathers should be on the money.

Washington on the one (because he is the best known).
Adams on the two
Jefferson on the five
Hamilton on the twenty
Madison on the fifty
Franklin on the hundred

Coins should have great American innovators. Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Eli Whitney.

The Founders and American Innovation should be the figures American history carries on it's money.

No, it doesn't go far enough, we should build a giant gold of statue of him and worship it. Also we should sacrifice a goat to it every Thursday.

Also how much did Reagan reduce the debt by?

What is wrong with you?

 

[hippie_hunter]

I dunno if Walt Disney should be on money. I love the guy. Even at the age of 22, I still buy Disney products (Kingdom Hearts, Disney blu-ray). But Disney on money

Also, Eli Whitney made slavery worse. I think that would be too controversial, even though he had no intention of making slavery profitable.

 

[Schlosser85]

There was that all "ended one of the worst regimes ever".

Because Mikhail Gorbachev had nothing to do with it.

Also, Eli Whitney made slavery worse. I think that would be too controversial, even though he had no intention of making slavery profitable.

Well, if we're going by that, Walt Disney and Henry Ford weren't exactly the world's nicest guys.

 

[Kelly]

Take all the pics off the money, they will still spend the same, and debate over.


Done...

 

[StorminNorman]

I dunno if Walt Disney should be on money. I love the guy. Even at the age of 22, I still buy Disney products (Kingdom Hearts, Disney blu-ray). But Disney on money

Also, Eli Whitney made slavery worse. I think that would be too controversial, even though he had no intention of making slavery profitable.

I would rather have Disney on the money than FDR on the money.

Luckily America isn't limited in it's number of innovators.

Because Mikhail Gorbachev had nothing to do with it.

Reagan had more.

Well, if we're going by that, Walt Disney and Henry Ford weren't exactly the world's nicest guys.

Oh, that's right - Grant, Jefferson and Jackson were.

 

[Addendum]

There was that all "ended one of the worst regimes ever".

The Soviet Union ended during the presidency of HW Bush. Reagan was out of office for 2 years

 

[StorminNorman]

The Soviet Union ended during the presidency of HW Bush. Reagan was out of office for 2 years

So? Nixon was President when America landed on the moon, doesn't mean JFK doesn't deserve the credit.

 

[Addendum]

JFK may have initiated it, but it didn't occur on his watch. So Nixon gets the props for that.

 

[Schlosser85]

Reagan had more.

Certainly a debatable statement.

Oh, that's right - Grant, Jefferson and Jackson were.

That's not what I was saying. I was actually saying it was a little pointless for someone else to say Eli Whitney shouldn't be on a bill because he (indirectly) probably made slavery last longer, when Disney, Ford, and practically anyone else you could suggest has their own blemishes.

That said, I don't think someone like Andrew Jackson, who essentially committed genocide, has any business being on a bill.

 

[Kelly]

He didn't essentially commit it, he did commit it.


But, he was just one among many...it began from day one.

 

[VampElvis]

Forget the presidents. Superman on the dollar, Batman on the 2, change the 5 to a 4 dollar and put the Fantastic Four on it, Spidey on the 10, Hulk on the 20, Captain America on the 100

For the coinage, villains.

I like your thinking. Though replace everyone with Deadpool since he's in pretty much everything now

Deadpool would be the Euro, and Liefeld's "art" would be on the peso or the Zimbabwean dollar (whichever is worth less)

But only if we get Galactus on food stamp vouchers (or EBT cards - whichever is used these days).

 

[Bathead]

There was that all "ended one of the worst regimes ever".



FDR.



Extremely.



See, I think putting Presidents on the money isn't a great idea to begin with - it's too...royal. I mean, how many of today's problems are the result of FDR or Reagan policies? TR was the first progressive President. Lincoln was a dictator. FDR and Lincoln did more to damage American than the enemies of their wars could ever do.

The Founding Fathers should be on the money.

Washington on the one (because he is the best known).
Adams on the two
Jefferson on the five
Hamilton on the twenty
Madison on the fifty
Franklin on the hundred

Coins should have great American innovators. Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Eli Whitney.
The Founders and American Innovation should be the figures American history carries on it's money.



What is wrong with you?

Leo Fender t:

 

[DACrowe]

JFK is the most overrated man in the entire history of the universe.

I would agree...but only after Ronald Reagan. Both are very overrated but only one has his political party 30 years crying itself to sleep at night by listening to Reagan recordings and eulogizing him as the president who had rainbows shoot from his butt. Reagan takes the taco in this regard.

Also, I'd rather they got rid of Andrew Jackson before they got rid of Alexander Hamilton on currency. I do agree that Grant is another one who should go. But I'd replace Jackson and Grant with FDR and Teddy or FDR and Jefferson, personally.

 

[DACrowe]

FDR and Lincoln did more to damage American than the enemies of their wars could ever do.

Look I get you don't like either president (though calling Lincoln a dictator is more than a bit of a stretch.) So that is fine and dandy. But FDR and Lincoln did more damage to the US than her enemies?

Lincoln preserved the Union, thereby saving the US, and began the abolition of slavery (the emancipation did not free all the slaves as Southern apologists love to point out, but it began the inevitable process of ending slaver for good). If the US's enemies during the Civil War, Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy, had won the war, the United States would have been cut in half and likely would have dissolved in its weakened state by the end of the century. There would probably be no United States today and just European-esque states. I'd say that would be more damaging.

And say what you will about FDR's economic policies (I think they were great until the GOP railroaded them in '36), but Adolf Hitler winning WWII and taking over at the very least western Europe and Japan having Southeast Asia (they being our enemies of FDR's day) would likely be worse than FDR's progressive legacy of social security.

For example, I think Ronald Reagan is very overrated and a very mixed bag president. He did some good things and some terrible things. I also think his legacy has led us to this crippling partisanship of Washington DC today and Reaganomics was the force that knocked us off the cliff in '88, 2000 and again in 2008.....

with that said, I do not think he did more damage to our nation than if the Soviet Union had won the Cold War.

Just a thought.

 

[The Overlord]

What is wrong with you?

You have no sense of humor, do you?

I'm making fun of the fact that some conservatives are trying to create a cult of personality around despite the fact he didn't really do much to reduce the size of government, considering how much the debt ballooned under his watch. He is one who created the contradictions the GOP current experiences, he said wanted to reduce the size of government, but the debt went up under his watch, how is that not a contradiction?

This part of the reason why the GOP is what of touch, they constantly go to past and talk about Reagan, instead of talking about the future. The Dems don't talk about FDR as much as the GOP talks about Reagan.

Also ignoring Regan's politics, how are young people supposed to connect to a party that constantly talks about someone who was President before they were born?

Reagan had more.

.

Doubtful, what if the USSR was run by someone who wasn't run by someone interested political reforms back then?

That leader could change created more of a free market economy, yet kept the society politically repressive, like China. You still have a capitalist economy and still be a dictatorship, they are not exclusive concepts.

According this logic, we should give FDR all the credit for the destruction of Nazi Germany and ignore everything else that happened.

 

[DACrowe]

Reagan had more.

And Charlie Wilson more than both of 'em.

 

[The Overlord]

This reminds me of an Onion clip: http://www.theonion.com/content/video/zombie_reagan_raised_from_grave

 

[Holiday]

I like your thinking. Though replace everyone with Deadpool since he's in pretty much everything now

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joefxd/2438808241/

 

[Scourge2099]

The only paper Regan's face belongs on is toilet paper.