Election Breakdown From A Canadian Viewpoint

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  1. StorminNorman Registered

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    Found this interesting...

     
  2. sinewave Registered

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    wow, that's a lot of republican rhetoric. lemme guess, the national post is canada's answer to the weekly standard, right?
     
  3. SuBe Voluntaryist

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    I thought that was a pretty fair write up. :)
     
  4. StorminNorman Registered

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    His points are quite valid.

    There is far more experience with the Republican candidates than there is on the Democratic side.
     
  5. Raiden Wakanda Forever

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    Experience is not the only qualification for a presidential candidate; if it were, then Nixon, not JFK, would've won the 1960 presidential election. And candidates who have more experience do not always make the best president. W. Bush was perceived as having alot of experience as the governor of Texas, but look how he turned out in these 8 years.
     
  6. The Senator Registered

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    Well, of course there is.

    When you have 436 candidates running, you're bound to have more of it somewhere :o
     
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    aside from the snarky comments and exaggerations about the dems (edwards' $1200 haircut??? wasn't it $400?). and the extremely favorable comments on the reps, yeah it's fair. :whatever:

    the dems had plenty of experienced candidates (richardson, biden, dodd), the media just didn't go down on them like they did for hillary and obama.
     
  8. sithgoblin King of the Castle

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    Experience isn't everything. Just look at Gordon Brown.
     
  9. rdh007 Brit Wannabe

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    Biden and Dodd were both favorites of mine.
     
  10. sinewave Registered

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    both were decent candidates. i was pulling for richardson.
     
  11. SuBe Voluntaryist

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    I agree, when I read that, that's what I thought

    Again, I agree with you. If I had to vote for a Dem this election cycle, it would have been Richardson. He actually cut taxes, unusual for a Democrat.
     
  12. StorminNorman Registered

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    Nixon was a better President than JFK.
     
  13. The Senator Registered

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    Because Nixon wasn't shot less than three years into his presidency.

    Though I agree, in terms of policy, Nixon did a hell of a lot more than Kennedy did. Though at the same time, he completely damaged the face of the American presidency.
     
  14. hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    Nixon's Presidency is horribly tainted because he's a criminal, but he was a great President regardless.
     
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    Kennedy's Presidency was made by his assignation.

    Think about it - what did Kennedy really do?

    He is known for:
    Civil Rights (a bill passed after his death)
    Space Programs (realized after his death)
    Being Sexy

    Look at the Bay of Pigs, the failed assassination attempts on Castro, etc. etc. He wasn't a very successful President.
     
  16. hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    Kennedy is the most overrated President EVER.
     
  17. StorminNorman Registered

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    Agreed.

    FDR is second :o
     
  18. hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    I wouldn't call FDR overrated. The New Deal was necessary for its time and he had a great hand at leadership during World War II.

    He's right up there with George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, and Ronald Reagan as one of the best Presidents.
     
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    The New Deal increased Government ten-fold, added to the deficit at the time and did almost nothing to help the Great Depression (ended by World War II).

    He did nothing for Civil Rights (in spite of pressure by Truman) and completely under-appreciated the threat of Communism.

    Roosevelt's greatest accomplishment was having some of the best Foreign Affair experts ever assembled in office.

    FDR was a good President - but Truman is the true hero of the time IMO.
     
  20. hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    The New Deal helped the people who were hurt by the Great Depression. It's a relic today, but it was needed then.

    Civil Rights weren't the forefront at that time. And he had no choice but to ally with Stalin.
     
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    If The New Deal was never implemented, the nation's economy would of been just fine. Also it wasn't just FDR's alliance with Stalin that was the problem - any President would of been forced to make it - he simply did not see Communism as a bad thing. He saw Stalin as friendly "Uncle Joe" and he had a few communist sympathizers very close to him.

    FDR is a good President. I will not argue that. But he does not belong among the ranks of Washington, Lincoln, Regan and his Uncle-In-Law. Almost any President in office at the time would be recognized just as fondly.
     
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    Not to mention getting the US into Vietnam out of pure negligence and corruption. :o

    Take out Reagan, and I'd agree.

    As for the article, it does gloss over the Republicans.

    Rudy, while good economically, monumentally f**ked-up with 9/11.

    Romney's comment about "freedom requires faith" still creeps me out and from the recent spat with the AP reporter he looks like he'll snap and turn into Mormon Hulk at the drop of a hat.

    McCain, from when Blair left and until very recently, was George Bush's sock puppet.

    Huckabee is a completely insane, racist, homophobic piece of crap.

    Paul, while definately the smartest guy in the room, was negligent and let racist asswipes write in his newsletter, took dubious donations and screwed over groups after taking their donations (such as the 9/11 Truth Movement).

    Really, there's not many canidates on either side that really inspires at this point.
     
  23. The Senator Registered

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    But what about Barrack Obama and his sexiness?














    (that was a joke, by the way)
     
  24. MaskedManJRK Registered

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    Brains before beauty. :cwink:
     
  25. Raiden Wakanda Forever

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    Like MaskedMan, I also don't believe Reagan ranks as one of the best presidents in U.S. history. Cold War was ending because Soviet Union was getting bankrupt, and any president at that time would've "ended" Cold War. And Reagan's economic boom was rather short-lived, and he delivered a gigantic deficit that lasted until Clinton took office. He was a very charismatic president, but not one of "the" best.
     

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