Transformers The Reviews Thread

[blind_fury]

If it wasn't for the fact that most fanboys would want it to be more like a military action thriller, I'd suggest Bay take on G.I. Joe as well.

What's the point if most of the characters are barely recognizable.

He's better off doing the Rock 2 instead. Create his own characters so he doesn't have to worry about life-long fans actually requesting the movie resemble the source material. Of course he won't make nearly as much money using his own characters so he has to milk one's with established fanbases.

 

[icekid]

I just want to point this out to everyone about Barricade being MIA after his fight with BB

Spoiler

in the scene where you see Bonecrusher transforming on the freeway, you can clearly see barricade driving behind him before bonecrusher begins to transform, so no SS isn't the only survivor

 

[Figs]

What's the point if most of the characters are barely recognizable.

He's better off doing the Rock 2 instead. Create his own characters so he doesn't have to worry about life-long fans actually requesting the movie resemble the source material. Of course he won't make nearly as much money using his own characters so he has to milk one's with established fanbases.

That's why he originally turned it down and had to be talked into doing it. Not to mention all of his other films which have done fairly well in theatres weren't based off of existing franchises.

It's funny how people that don't like someone who's succesful because of reasons like in this case, making changes to your favorite childhood show, always go for the easy insults of saying "There greedy" or "They only do it for the money".

That's typical human nature though to talk **** about people who are succesful. I only say that because it shows when you grab at straws and go with the cliche' money thing.

 

[blind_fury]

That's why he originally turned it down and had to be talked into doing it. Not to mention all of his other films which have done fairly well in theatres weren't based off of existing franchises.

It's funny how people that don't like someone who's succesful because of reasons like in this case, making changes to your favorite childhood show, always go for the easy insults of saying "There greedy" or "They only do it for the money".

That's typical human nature though to talk **** about people who are succesful. I only say that because it shows when you grab at straws and go with the cliche' money thing.

Bay turned it down until hasbro agreed to give him cut of the toys sales.

Do you have any idea how many TF toys are going to get sold for the next 6 months?

 

[CFlash]

That's why he originally turned it down and had to be talked into doing it. Not to mention all of his other films which have done fairly well in theatres weren't based off of existing franchises.

It's funny how people that don't like someone who's succesful because of reasons like in this case, making changes to your favorite childhood show, always go for the easy insults of saying "There greedy" or "They only do it for the money".

That's typical human nature though to talk **** about people who are succesful. I only say that because it shows when you grab at straws and go with the cliche' money thing.

Hmmm. I think the problem with Bay is that (many film buffs think) a lot of his success is due to Jerry Bruckheimer who was successful before Bay (and after). As soon as Bay detached himself from Jerry, he failed (The Island). In other words, he's not a Spielberg or Cameron-- or Lucas-- who pretty much came into his own ON his own. It doesn't really help when you create a production company whose sole purpose is to "remake" highly revered horror movies. All of this smacks of "dude! do something on your own!" Just my 2c.

Plus, Bay himself (or through his Mod at shootfortheedit) said in plain text that he didn't agree until he was offerred a share in the licensing for the toys by the Pres of Hasbro. So I see B_F's point.

 

[KappeiJin]

Bay turned it down until hasbro agreed to give him cut of the toys sales.

Do you have any idea how many TF toys are going to get sold for the next 6 months?

So, what's the problem if the movie is still well done? EVERY comic fiction has merchandising. It was OBVIOUS that they should be changed, think about Gundam and Bandai, tons of new models by each new anime. The point is that, despite all the changes made in the transposition process, the movie preserved the original animated G1 serie's feeling.

 

[Figs]

Hmmm. I think the problem with Bay is that (many film buffs think) a lot of his success is due to Jerry Bruckheimer who was successful before Bay (and after). As soon as Bay detached himself from Jerry, he failed (The Island). In other words, he's not a Spielberg or Cameron-- or Lucas-- who pretty much came into his own ON his own. It doesn't really help when you create a production company whose sole purpose is to "remake" highly revered horror movies. All of this smacks of "dude! do something on your own!" Just my 2c.

While I see your point and would like to see Bay make a film on his own just to see if it will fail or be successful. Didn't Spielberg produce the Island?

 

[Figs]

Bay turned it down until hasbro agreed to give him cut of the toys sales.

Do you have any idea how many TF toys are going to get sold for the next 6 months?

But can you 100% prove that that was the ultimate and first reason why he did it? Not saying your full of it, but I just remember hearing that Spielberg had twisted his arm alittle to Direct.

 

[kal-el2006]

movies.com review

http://movies.go.com/transformers/r833634/action&CMP=ILC-Flash1

 

[xwolverine2]

67%......... dropped big time!

 

[CFlash]

While I see your point and would like to see Bay make a film on his own just to see if it will fail or be successful. Didn't Spielberg produce the Island?

No. Although it is a Dreamworks movie, Spielberg did not produce it.

P.S.
Incidentally, Bay publicly blamed The Island's performance on Dreamwork's botched marketing campaign. Another example of his candidness (like what was originally being discussed in the Desanto Murphy thread...)

 

[Figs]

No. Although it is a Dreamworks movie, Spielberg did not produce it.

P.S.
Incidentally, Bay publicly blamed The Island's performance on Dreamwork's botched marketing campaign. Another example of his candidness (like what was originally being discussed in the Desanto Murphy thread...)

Don't really care to get into another argument with this but, I don't recall that much advertising for it other than maybe a trailer when I was seeing another movie. Correct me if im wrong, sometimes I get burned out by advertisements and miss whole marketing campaigns for movies/shows, even video games. Not to mention, do you remember what other movies it was going against?

 

[The Lizard]

67%......... dropped big time!

That's a bit more like it. I'm expecting something in the 65-70% Tomatometer range when all is said and done. Better than the average Bay film, but still loud, big and dumb.

At least I'll know what to expect. I'll just close my eyes and go to my happy place during the dog-pee gags, Jazz saying "whazzup biatches!", and the insufferable Shia/Megan romance scenes.

 

[CFlash]

Don't really care to get into another argument with this but, I don't recall that much advertising for it other than maybe a trailer when I was seeing another movie. Correct me if im wrong, sometimes I get burned out by advertisements and miss whole marketing campaigns for movies/shows, even video games. Not to mention, do you remember what other movies it was going against?

He said the TV commercials gave away the whole plot, and the posters where this or that. If I had the enthusiasm I'd pull up his direct blog about it. Here's a result from a quick Google search. The reviewer quotes an entire paragraph from Michael Bay directly towards the end. http://www.reel.com/movie.asp?MID=140890&PID=10120738&buy=closed&Tab=reviews&CID=18

I'm not arguing any point. Just pointing out his rocky start with Dreamworks in his first outing with them.

 

[Tempest19]

That's a bit more like it. I'm expecting something in the 65-70% Tomatometer range when all is said and done. Better than the average Bay film, but still loud, big and dumb.

Still ALOT more than other blockbusters, those released in May particularly.

 

[The Lizard]

Still ALOT more than other blockbusters, those released in May particularly.

If you mean the Tomatometer rating, yes it looks like it could end up being higher than Spider-Man 3 and definitely higher than POTC3. If TF is actually a fun movie to watch (despite a holey plot and several stupid gags), than it deserves to get a higher rating, because those other flicks weren't fun.


That being said, this quote from the NEW YORKER made me LOL...

.... but, if you really want to know what “Transformers” feels like, think of a hundred-and-thirty-five-minute, hundred-and-fifty-million-dollar retread of “Herbie Goes Bananas.”

 

[Karea07]

"Better than sex" - awesome

 

[tviceman]

As more and more reviews come in, and I glance over all of them, I am starting to get this general sense of feeling.

This movie is EXACTLY what Michael Bay had in mind when he agreed to direct it. I know that sounds a little bit cliche, because I think every director's goal is to have the movie come out as close to their vision as possible. But most of the negative and positive reactions are based on the same things (furious nonstop action, not a deep movie in the least bit, humor bordering on corny) and I think Bay wanted it exactly this way.

Some movies may have the liberty of getting excellent reviews from critics, even if the film isn't their cup of tea (like a Mystic River, or an animated film like Ratatouille). But this iteration of Transformers, obviously, isn't made in the same vein.

So, basically, I think this movie is what it is. All the critics are agreeing on pretty much everything - it's just their personal likes and dislikes that are deciding the review scores.

 

[CFlash]

Movie Mom gave it a B+. Good news for the youngins.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/parentsguide

 

[terry78]

Movie Mom gave it a B+. Good news for the youngins.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/parentsguide

Haha, I love her reviews and how she breaks down everything that warrants the PG-13 rating. The *********ion thing made me crack up.

 

[Marvin]

Hmmm. I think the problem with Bay is that (many film buffs think) a lot of his success is due to Jerry Bruckheimer who was successful before Bay (and after). As soon as Bay detached himself from Jerry, he failed (The Island). In other words, he's not a Spielberg or Cameron-- or Lucas-- who pretty much came into his own ON his own. It doesn't really help when you create a production company whose sole purpose is to "remake" highly revered horror movies. All of this smacks of "dude! do something on your own!" Just my 2c.

Plus, Bay himself (or through his Mod at shootfortheedit) said in plain text that he didn't agree until he was offerred a share in the licensing for the toys by the Pres of Hasbro. So I see B_F's point.

The minute he made a non JB film, it took a serious turn in tone and formula..bays previous films all get bashed for the same reasons...at times u can pretty much substitute one review for another...the island for better or worse was a different bay film
and yes(spielberg pretty much played same part he did in landing the movie in bays hands as he has done with TF...everything outside of "making it happen")
his two non JB films are his two most interesting, one no going being his most successful

He said the TV commercials gave away the whole plot, and the posters where this or that. If I had the enthusiasm I'd pull up his direct blog about it. Here's a result from a quick Google search. The reviewer quotes an entire paragraph from Michael Bay directly towards the end. http://www.reel.com/movie.asp?MID=140890&PID=10120738&buy=closed&Tab=reviews&CID=18

I'm not arguing any point. Just pointing out his rocky start with Dreamworks in his first outing with them.

yes, and this time around he's taken very big steps not to let that sh1t happen again...
i believe it was him that said he didn't want anyone seeing full robots till the effects were ready(..note the first two trailers...and the lack of any hulk like clear shots of green sh1t cgi)

he's also done alot of press

he's also pretty much behind the Googoo doll vid and song

if anything it say mountains about that other topic of discussion...CREDIT SHOULD BE GIVEN WHERE IT'S DUE

(this is his film thu and thru)

 

[terry78]

Now I honestly would be interested to see what Bay could do with Superman. But only if no Bruckheimer is involved and the same people are writing.

 

[Marvin]

63% on RT

4 less a percent and it's officially ROTTEN

bearing in mind that alot of the taglines for the rotten reviews are in vain of

"Whatever chance Transformers might have been a decent movie disappeared the moment Bay was hired to direct."

if the mere mention of his name means the movie is bad
maybe is wasn't the right choice after all

lol
(i guess box office is another factor)

 

[SuperJediHero]

63% is Still Fresh, But SOB how did this movie all the sudden got so many POOR reviews after a Great Early reviews?

The Early Reviewers MUST be more of Transformers fans, huh?

 

[Marvin]

nah...it's more like those ppl are neutral

it's also more like the neg's have a personal gripe with with either the production team or the source material