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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Rhino: Suit Vs. Cross-Species

Which version of The Rhino should they use?

  • A Cross-Species

  • A robotic suit, ala USM

  • A mixture of genetic and cybernetic enhancements ala 616

  • If possible, a brand new interpretation


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Seriously though, how could they make a guy running in a giant rhino suit look good on screen? Especially Paul Giamatti...

Maybe the serum mutates him or gives him super strength, and then Oscorp provides him with the Rhino suit.

Well, the same applies for a mutant rhinoceros man. I think that could look much worse, to be honest. Of course it depends on how they do it, but I keep thinking of those concept drawings from the aborted Jurassic Park 4 project. If people thought the Lizard looked bad...

I don't think an armor would look bad at all. A hulking grey mechanical juggernaut, maybe with Giamatti's face peeking out, maybe without... it's the reason I was excited for Rhino at all.
 
If they do the cross species angle, it'll look just like The Rhino from TASM video game, which looked just like the comic Rhino, except he wasn't as "clean" looking.
 
This red eye design could look great
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With this suit
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i'm hoping its not the mutant cross spieces because all that does with the lizard, electro etc mean they will eventually go with ultimate goblin
 
i'm hoping its not the mutant cross spieces because all that does with the lizard, electro etc mean they will eventually go with ultimate goblin

not necessarily... i think a 616 looking goblin who can shift in and out of transformation like Lizard actually makes sense. more so than someone just deciding to dress like a goblin. I just dont want him Hulking or throwing fire balls
 
Ultimate Goblin initially wasn't a bad idea. The execution was just all wrong. You still can have Goblin be a transformation, but in appearance he could resemble 616 Goblin.
 
I didn't really have a problem with Ultimate Goblin after getting over the initial shock of the complete redesign. I think 616 Goblin is still a more interesting concept though. Ultimate Goblin worked for its continuity and plot of Ultimate with the genetic experiments and what not.
 
i'm hoping its not the mutant cross spieces because all that does with the lizard, electro etc mean they will eventually go with ultimate goblin

Yeah, that wouldn't be a great route to take. Plus it kinda takes down the whole series a bit if it's just going to be one cross-species after another. They'd be painting themselves into a corner.

This red eye design could look great
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I think it's funny that the new Rhino (the red eye one) looks like it could be Giamatti under there. He's been pulling some pretty similar facial expressions on the set pics. lol

not necessarily... i think a 616 looking goblin who can shift in and out of transformation like Lizard actually makes sense. more so than someone just deciding to dress like a goblin. I just dont want him Hulking or throwing fire balls

You're still missing the point if it's still just a transformation in the end. That's not 616 in character, even if it is a Hulk Goblin on a diet.
 
From what I've seen of the 616 and Ultimate. 616 GG is a separate personality for the most part (the mask being a focal point). Ultimate is not.
 
That could be achieved with a cross-species chimera version of the Goblin.

edit: maybe we're digging deeper than most others would.
 
Considering the more "scienitific" aspect of the of this universe, having Rhino being bombarded with radiation wouldn't make any logical sense, considering Peter wasn't bitten by a radioactive spider. That's always been changed to a genetically altered spider because it's less "60s-like", otherwise why wouldn't he get cancer? Spidey's origin was changed in TASM to something that was more connected, so why not make Rhino's origin something that has impact with the actual movie, since you know typically supervillians origins have ties to events in the plot or the main character, it doesn't typically ever just randomly happen, which IS lazy writting. Spider-Man is also a MUCH more fleshed out character than the Rhino, only important aspect about Rhino is that he's big, stupid, and violent. As long as whatever happens to him to become Rhino is something that HE got himself into out of ignorance, that's all that matters, not how it actually HAPPENS, since in the comics it was just some random mobsters. This is a movie, not a comic book, things are going to be more interconnected, since movies aren't episodic like comics. Directors also have different interpretations and styles they bring, which they SHOULD be allowed to do. Respecting the source material doesn't mean you have to wh*re yourself out to it and do all of it's bidding just because some people on the internet (the miniority) think so.

Considering that in this "scientific" explanation (What science exactly?), we haven't gotten an actual reason why the spider-bite would have transformed Peter (Genetically altered means it leaks DNA in its venom :huh:
And somehow it leaks enough to alter Peter's body :huh: :huh: ). And BTW I think Raimi's origin was equally faulty. Based on both origins, one has to wonder why exactly there aren't a dozen or based on the Webb origin an army of Spider-Men.

Radiation in the comics was the perfect x-factor and catalyst to explain why these people change. It also explained exactly why there was only one Spider-Man. It was a chance occurrence, not a planned event.

As for the radiation = cancer.. How about this- Maybe in the Marvel Universe, radiation doesn't work the way it does in ours.. Kinda like-Every other thing in the Marvel Universe works differently than in ours. Physics is different. Time and Space is different. Extraterrestrial life is different. Genetics is different. But Radiation is supposed to be the same? :huh: :huh: :huh:

As far as Rhino, to address your point, his putting on a mech-suit wouldn't be something he "got into out of ignorance". There also isn't the same type of tragic misconception possibility that comes with the 616 origin.

Of course, based on the handling of the first film, I'm not really expecting this one to have a satisfying translation of the Rhino. But that's not really the question being asked.
 
From what I've seen of the 616 and Ultimate. 616 GG is a separate personality for the most part (the mask being a focal point). Ultimate is not.

I wouldn't mind if they make Goblin completely sane and evil because he's a scumbag. Not because he's got a split personality. Just like Goblin in Spectacular Spider-Man. Who was completely in control and accountable for his actions. He simply created the Green Goblin persona, to do things he couldn't do as Norman Osborn, the business man.
 
I wouldn't mind if they make Goblin completely sane and evil because he's a scumbag. Not because he's got a split personality. Just like Goblin in Spectacular Spider-Man. Who was completely in control and accountable for his actions. He simply created the Green Goblin persona, to do things he couldn't do as Norman Osborn, the business man.

That would be a good way of differentiating Goblin from Lizard; Connors had flashes of that split personality. A retread with Goblin would be silly. However, they could present us with circumstances that motivated Norman to become an overcompensating scumbag. That doesn't mean we forgive him; we just know where his character is coming from.
 
You're still missing the point if it's still just a transformation in the end. That's not 616 in character, even if it is a Hulk Goblin on a diet.

and? Look as long as Norman looks and acts like the green goblin that's all i really care about. It's truly not integral if he wears a rubber mask or not...
 
From what I've seen of the 616 and Ultimate. 616 GG is a separate personality for the most part (the mask being a focal point). Ultimate is not.

Goblin often has a Jeckyll and Hyde persona, though norman is just bat___ crazy. I don't really see how the mask makes a difference...and this is coming from a comic book purist who wants 90% of everything the same as the books...
 
MCU is the Marvel Universe. That's why it's called the MARVEL Cinematic UNIVERSE.
Spider-Man is in the Webb-verse, similar as to how Batman was in the Nolan-verse. Who knows, maybe there was something special
about about Peter that triggered him into gaining spider-like powers. How is radiation the perfect explanation considering radiation does the literal
opposite of giving you powers. It contaiminates you, weakens you, and kills you.
Only reason radiation was used was because it was the "Oooh science!" thing back in those times. This is the 21st Century where new science has been discovered, science that doesn't completely contradict itself.
 
Goblin often has a Jeckyll and Hyde persona, though norman is just bat___ crazy. I don't really see how the mask makes a difference...and this is coming from a comic book purist who wants 90% of everything the same as the books...

The mask serves as a focal point. It represents the Goblin side for Norman. Ultimate Goblin doesn't seem to have that layer to his character and is just a run of the mill crazy Hulk monster villain. It's probably not impossible to have a transformation Goblin, but still have him be 616 in character, but it's just more simple to go with the 616 character in the first place and not worry about where you split the line for the movie version.

Also, I don't think transformation is a good idea especially for these films. We don't need yet another villain to worry about being yet another cross-species monster.
 
Ultimate goblin doesn't have that layer because he's a hulking idiot who's not really insane....

You can get the exact same effect by having Norman halucinate or seeing himself in a mirror. Think golem/smeagle even.... A mask isn't the only way to do it.

Raimis films tried to make sense of the mask by way of Norman collecting them.... And it still didn't really make much sense as to why Norman decides to make himself a goblin. Cartoons you don't have to explain it. But i think movies you do. Id prefer he come up with the goblin persona because the serum makes him resemble one. Its far more logical than a rubber mask. Same logic applies to rhino
 
I could see Rhino in a mechanical suite moreso than the Goblin. You can have enough ambiguities in the suite's design that it looks rhino-like without...outright being a shiny rhino fursuit. I fully expect to see GG as some kind of chimera that resembles a goblin.
 
MCU is the Marvel Universe. That's why it's called the MARVEL Cinematic UNIVERSE. Spider-Man is in the Webb-verse, similar as to how Batman was in the Nolan-verse.

Which has what to do with the price of tea in China?


Who knows, maybe there was something special
about about Peter that triggered him into gaining spider-like powers. How is radiation the perfect explanation considering radiation does the literal
opposite of giving you powers. It contaiminates you, weakens you, and kills you.

Only reason radiation was used was because it was the "Oooh science!" thing back in those times. This is the 21st Century where new science has been discovered, science that doesn't completely contradict itself.

Mutation:
In genetics, a mutation is a change of the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus, or extrachromosomal genetic element. Mutations result from unrepaired damage to DNA or to RNA genomes (typically caused by radiation or chemical mutagens), from errors in the process of replication, or from the insertion or deletion of segments of DNA by mobile genetic elements.

What was that about science that contradicts itself?

Now, please elaborate about the genome leaking spiders.
 
That radiation doesn't give you powers. It causes deformities and containmination. But I'm not going to keep arguing about this, it's pointless.
 
Indeed. Switching on and off allelic expression at one location can lead to switches at other locations as well. It feels like a more random process than having a spider bite as the direct cause of Peter's powers.
 
Seriously though, how could they make a guy running in a giant rhino suit look good on screen? Especially Paul Giamatti...

Maybe the serum mutates him or gives him super strength, and then Oscorp provides him with the Rhino suit.
Everyone will complain about one thing
The mutation might not look good either
 
well we've at least seen a decently done mutant rhino in the game... that looks close enough to what we'd see in a movie hopefully... which does look decent. So that does give it some cred compared to a man in a rhino costume
 

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