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"The ROLO Factor": Wolverine & Storm's Relationship

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Well first off I would like to say Darth your idea of the Rolo factor is intresting. Yet, your on site draft of this is questionable. Considering the fact towards the actors and actresses chemistry towards each other. I find that part a little effiy reason why is because; even though that we just happen to have two 'stars' who had a somewhat chemistry in another movie *ie swordfish*. There is a verebal offset towards, they would have this same chemistry in this movie. Yet call me a skeptic, due to the recent changes, something magical could work out. Although I would like to see what the script holds towards the relationship between Storm and Wolverine.
 
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The chemistry is there for sure :up:
 
:mad: Hugh. Your a married man. Stop it.
 
-Æ- said:
Well first off I would like to say Darth your idea of the Rolo factor is intresting.

Where is the "Darth" thing coming from? :o Call me Lightning. :p

Anyway, A1ant makes a good point: Jean could've been the equal that Logan was looking for, but she really isn't in love with him on that level. They are very different people, and Jean lusts for him and what he compensates for Scott, but that has nothing to do with love. I suspect if they ever really got it on, she'd hate herself because ultimately Scott is her true love and her guilty conscience would drive her sick.

So the Jean/Logan thing wouldn't work out even if they did give way to total sexual abandon. Logan needs to be with someone who won't play games with him--which Jean does. I love her to death as a character, but the writers make her act like a ho sometimes, due to the way she tricks him around.
 
Dark Lightning said:
Where is the "Darth" thing coming from? :o Call me Lightning. :p

Eh, sorry about that not good with names, duely noted!
 
the a1ant--I'm a Logan/Rogue shipper, but I could gladly live with and even come to like the Ororo/Logan thing if it's done well. I'm happy as long as Logan has a REAL CONNECTION with someone--the reason I liked Logan/Rogue is because unlike the Logan/Jean thing, Logan was a better and more endearing character in Rogue's presence. Instead of just sex without any form of morality involved, there was a tenderness, a protectiveness, a sharing of who they were.

If they can create a connection we can see, rather than just throwing the characters together pell-mell because they're there, it could be really nice. Logan and Ororo both seem like leaders, and if that brought them together in a sense, to stand united... that would be awesome.
 
cool thread. i think this idea could play out well on screen (but like the rest of you, im hoping it's not a bunch of stupid random sex scenes that serve no purpose to the story), i just hope that this whole Ororo/Logan love story isnt fox's way of "giving storm more to do" we need some character development here fox, if you can make it play out in "RoLo" then by all means do it, i just hope that fox isnt thinking "more to do, lets have it be wolverine". oh and more pics please :D
 
ts16 said:
cool thread. i think this idea could play out well on screen (but like the rest of you, im hoping it's not a bunch of stupid random sex scenes that serve no purpose to the story), i just hope that this whole Ororo/Logan love story isnt fox's way of "giving storm more to do" we need some character development here fox, if you can make it play out in "RoLo" then by all means do it, i just hope that fox isnt thinking "more to do, lets have it be wolverine". oh and more pics please :D


Yeah, I hope there isnt any messy sex scenes between Wolverine and Storm, eww it would probably be like "Monster Ball" *shivers* except with super powers..............*shivers*
 
Storm: "Logan always liked to get freaky! He likes it when it shoot tiny pulses of electricity up his back. It makes him growl like an animal! Oh...and you don't even want to know what Logan really uses that healing factor power for!" ;)
 
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Yeah, I hope there isnt any messy sex scenes between Wolverine and Storm, eww it would probably be like "Monster Ball" *shivers* except with super powers..............*shivers*


hahahahah, the x rated xmen. ugh i certainly hope not.


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Hopefully they don't make the same mistake as they did in Matrix: Reloaded with the crazy Rave/Neo Trinity sex scene..*shivers*
 
Thank you for all the long-winded explanations and pictures Lightning (including the crappy manips).

The simple fact of the matter of this, half of what you talked about I bet isn't even going to be taken into account. I like the RO/LO pairing. But this isn't an Ororo/Logan pairing. Its a Halle Berry/Hugh Jackman pairing pretty simple really.

I still claim that Nightcrawler and Ororo would've been a much more compelling and interesting pairing for the movies than the obvious studio executive device of Wolverine and Storm.
 
There are way less general movie audience people who favour a Storm/Logan romance than the Jean/Logan one. They spent so much time in X1 and X2 doing Jean/Logan that for me knowing Jean will be in X3 well it annoys me. To me there NEVER been any REAL Storm/Logan. Heck there's been more Rogue/Wolverine or others than Storm/Wolverine. They just haven't done hardly any romance stuff with Storm in the comics that I know of, and Ultimate hardy counts, though that was Jean.

I'm dead set against the idea, and if it's in the moive it better be REALLY freakin small.

*Then again I've always been a big ass Wolvie/Jean shipper. And now that Scott bonking Emma I'm hoping whenever Jean gets back Marvel with finally let those two get some more action. Wolverine loves Jean not Storm, in that special way anyway.*
 
Dark Lightning said:


The ROLO Factor
Marvel's 1st Silver-Screen Interracial Romance?
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An Essay By Dark Lightning AKA Lightning Strikez!


Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the X-Men in the early 1960s, when the African-American civil rights movement was prominent in the news. Interestingly enough, both Stan and Jack are Jewish-Americans; consciously or unconsciously, perhaps they were really aiming at anti-Semitism. Decades later, it was Chris Claremont who established that Magneto, as a child, had been imprisoned at the Auschwitz Nazi Concentration Camps.

The point?

From the very beginning, Marvel Comics, and more specifically the X-Men, have continued to explore the differences between peoples and cultures, and to break down those barriers. In fact, it is a well-known fact that the antagonism spewed towards mutants in the X-Men comics is actually a metaphor for racism.

So perhaps it is apropros that X-Men 3 will push the envelope further with the ROLO Factor. For those of you who are not acquainted with the terminology, ROLO stands for the romantic relationship between Ororo Munroe (Storm) and Logan (Wolverine). Some have already labeled this aspect of X3's plot as another "controversial Thom Rothman antic" but if people actually did their homework,they'd find that the two characters have been involved for years in the comic book cannon. Even now, in both the Ultimate and Uncanny X-Men series the two characters are once again fooling around.

However, I sense that FOX putting these two together in this film is about more than just being controversial. And it's probably bigger than the source material too. I think they are doing it for cinematic purposes. If fleshed out well, this relationship could really bring something special to X3 for several reasons.

Let's discuss some of them:

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1.) Closure For Logan: Let's face it, at some point the feral Wolverine would have to move on with his life in the wake of Jean Grey's death. The most logical choice would be the team's beautiful second-in-command. But since X3 will revolve around Dark Phoenix, the ROLO factor coooould also pose some interesting struggles within Logan once the fire goddess arises from Alkali Lake. Much will hinge on if Jean will simply return as herself with increased abilities, or as a maniac driven by lunacy and a thirst for power.

2.) Better Utilization Of Halle Berry: For both Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry the ROLO factor could bring another dimension to their characters. In my opinion, Halle will benefit the most. After standing in as the SFX coordinator for the last two films :rolleyes:, it will be good to finally see Storm being a WOMAN with an emotional attachment to someone.

And despite the vitriol some fanboys spit at the actress, many will agree that her heaviest gravitas lie in her dramatic portrayals. As demonstrated in Monster's Ball, Queen, The Dorothy Dandridge Story and her recent Their Eyes Were Watching God, Halle seems to excel best when in her own comfort zone--drama. While her turn in action films i.e. 007 and Catwoman have been met with mixed results, if Brett Ratner and his writers can give her some real meat on the character development end, she should shine here.

3.) A New Dimension For Hugh Jackman: The ROLO Factor will also give Hugh a nice departure from the slice-em-dice-em deal he's been stuck with so far in this saga. Hugh does well with romantic comedy as shown in his hit films Kate & Leopold and Someone Like You. But so far, his action films like Van Helsing and the X-Men series haven't really given him a chance to fully integrate the romantic element. We actually got a brief glimpse of the sexual side of Logan in X2 (with Jean and Mystique), but it will be interesting to see this side of the character really fleshed out this time around.

4.)Chemistry: The ROLO factor might bring a great opportunity for the actors involved--but not only on an individualized level. As a pair, Halle and Hugh seem to have an electric chemistry on screen, as shown in Swordfish. Chemistry between the actors is key, especially in this genre where films generally focus on SFX and action.

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Chemistry lacks to a large extent between Famke and James Marsden, and while it sizzles between Rebecca Romijn and Hugh--it's also very restricted. We can't have a repeat performance here with Storm and Logan. Halle and Hugh are arguably this film's biggest stars so if it's done right it's sure to raise the bar on comic book movies' love stories.

5.)Comicdom's 1st Silver-Screen Interracial Love Story: As noted above, we've enjoyed watching the love stories develop between Peter and Mary Jane, Reed and Susan, Bobby and Rogue and Scott and Jean--but we've never seen a high profile interracial love story in any comic book film (unless you count whatever Vivica A. Fox had going on with Mr. Freeze in 1997's deplorable Batman & Robin. *rolls eyes and lifts fist in wretched motions* Having Marvel's first black heroine involved with its ultimate Bad-Ass will be a treat, and the plot will also keep in line with X-Men's legacy: Breaking down cultural, sexual and racial barriers.

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To my fellow Hypesters: What do you think of the ROLO factor? Will it hurt or help X3? Will Logan's passion for Jean resurface? Will Storm's relationship with Logan be purely a sexual one, or will it have some depth as it does in the comics?




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Didn't marvel have an interracial relationship between Blade and (I forgot her name) the vampire lady in Blade 2?​
 
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All I could read is "blah blah blah, blah blah blah." I think ive been on the compute too long /sigh
 
TheVileOne said:
Thank you for all the long-winded explanations and pictures Lightning (including the crappy manips).

The simple fact of the matter of this, half of what you talked about I bet isn't even going to be taken into account. I like the RO/LO pairing. But this isn't an Ororo/Logan pairing. Its a Halle Berry/Hugh Jackman pairing pretty simple really.

I still claim that Nightcrawler and Ororo would've been a much more compelling and interesting pairing for the movies than the obvious studio executive device of Wolverine and Storm.

I believe 100% in that.

It's NOT Wolverine/Storm it's the Hugh/Halle.... which will hopfully not make me puke in the theatre.:mad:
 
Hopefully this whole thing is something that's been written out of the script.
 
I don't care one way or another so long as it's handled well-at least it has a little basis from the comics.I just what rogue and bobby split up cause that is one relationship that should never have happened.
 
TheVileOne said:
Thank you for all the long-winded explanations and pictures Lightning (including the crappy manips).

And thank you for consistently being an ass. Your abrasive ways never fail to impress us Hypesters.

Please try your call again later. :cool:


Ballistic Liz said:
There are way less general movie audience people who favour a Storm/Logan romance than the Jean/Logan one. They spent so much time in X1 and X2 doing Jean/Logan that for me knowing Jean will be in X3 well it annoys me. To me there NEVER been any REAL Storm/Logan. Heck there's been more Rogue/Wolverine or others than Storm/Wolverine. They just haven't done hardly any romance stuff with Storm in the comics that I know of, and Ultimate hardy counts, though that was Jean.

Liz, how can you anticipate the general movie audience will not "favour" a concept they haven't seen? At this point it'd be hard to guage what their reaction will be considering that Storm has been a 2-dimmensional character for 2 films straight. This is where Singer really handicapped Storm's cinematic personna--he hasn't built any kind of foundation whatsoever for her.

Think about it: all of the core X-Men characters (in particular Rogue, Bobby, Pyro, Magneto, Cyclops, Jean, and especially Logan) Storm is the only one that has never had a true character arc. She's never grown from one point in the saga to another point in her personality. While the NC "I have faith in you" was a nice step in the right direction, Kurt won't even be in this installment so they are taking her back to square one again.

Ratner knows the X-Men well--he's reportedly a major fan of the characters. So he knows Storm is regal but is also passionate and sexually free (especially in the 80's when she was often nude or scantily clad :p ). Bryan Singer completely rewrote her character into an oppressed, mousy, scared individual...hardly a Goddess that commands the winds.

That said, Brett & Co. will have an uphill battle indeed to bring some life to Storm. While I too am concerned that the ROLO factor is just a way to "give her something to do" it is also clear-cut evidence that FOX finally realizes the character has suffered a lack of development and needs something to do. If it's done tastefully and with class it coooould work.
 
A Hypothesis: Consider This?

After reading about a face-off between Jean and Emma Frost over Scott last night, I just thought of something: Technically-speaking, since this is a movie adaptation these film makers basically have the license to do whatever they want--be it good or bad.

Could it be that the vaporizing of Scott and the ROLO factor could actually be a modernized take on the Scott/Jean/Emma deal? Okay, I know it sounds far-fetched but work with me here for a moment:

From what we've heard, Scott is demolecularized in the first act by the Dark Phoenix. Totally vaporized instantly.

With him out the picture, I wonder if FOX is trying to create a new love triangle between Jean, Logan and Storm instead? :o I know it sounds stupid but...think about it: Though Jean turned Logan down in X2, they certainly established that she is attracted to him--at least on a primal, lustful level. Could that develop into territorial "love" after Scott's death? Could Storm become the proverbial "Emma Frost" here--the woman who took Logan when Jean rejected him, and thereby giving the Phoenix a target for her maniacal jealousy? I'm not sure if the aerial battle rumor is true or not...but it makes me wonder.

I know it may sound crazy (and personally I think this would SUCK A$$ if it is true)...but this is FOX we're talking about here. If they could make a love triangle out of friking Dr. Doom, Reed Richards and Susan Richards, they certainly can create one out of thin air here as well.

:rolleyes:
 
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