The Run Time Length Thread

[danoyse]

Let's quit the bickering over this, everyone. I think it's fair that anyone can have their own reasons for either wanting to see the movie, or not wanting to see it.

 

[FaT_tONle]

X-3 was an epic failure due to a complete studio take over to make a quick buck... if you guys just want to be entertained for an hour and a half with Hugh Jackman/Ryan Renolds badassness then I can't help you... I hope you enjoy the film in all honesty. I personally need more then that. I was so deeply offended by X-3 as an X-Men fan... that I just can not return to this franchise while it is still in Fox's hands. I can not support this garbage... no way in hell. It doesn't make me a better fan or anything... I just will do everything in my power to ensure this film fails. And that starts with not hyping it... I'll remove it from my sig once the runtime is confirmed.

 

[chaseter]

So has any other source besides IMDB listed a run time?

 

[Peter McCabe]

Do you keep going back to a restaurant that continually serves bad food in hopes that they might go back to how they once were years ago

Well I see your point and would normally agree, the problem is that there are too many variables at hand here.

We have a new cook in the restaurant (Jackman) that happens to be the co-owner as well and the new manager comes with great references (Hood).

X3's trailer had amazing shots as well so posting screen shots from a trailer is moot as an indicator of quality. A short run time for an origin film stuffed with many characters is an indicator of quality.

I myself was weary of this and to be honest with you - would have preferred a 3 hour film.

I see what Jackman is doing though, I see now [after the TV Spots] what kinda film he went out and made.

this is a classic revenger western that takes place during a post-western time and that is clearly using the elements of fantasy and science-fiction to draw in the masses.

the best example of that kinda film, prior to this, is Mad Max.

see I used to think the core of the film was the origin, but after seeing the spots it is clear to me that the conflict, the weapon x material is what drives the picture.

*once again, I would have preferred a longer film, or simply various films covering the various centuries of Wolverine's life.

but we're getting Jackman's ode to Mad Max and I like that alot

 

[chaseter]

Drop it, Danoyse has made that clear and she is the manager of the restaurant.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Drop it, Danoyse has made that clear.

so are we here to discuss things or just post rhetorical statements?

 

[chaseter]

so are we here to discuss things or just post rhetorical statements?

If you want to get prob. banned then by all means keep going

 

[FaT_tONle]

I don't remember Mad Max being glittered with excessive cameos from other big time stars or notable characters... they kept it to what it was. Wolverine movie where half the shots in the trailer are involving other mutants... that will detract from anything similar to a Mad Max format. They're fooling you all... you guys want to see the film for five minute appearances from your favortie X-Men characters then you will surely get your money's worth.

 

[danoyse]

Drop it, Danoyse has made that clear and she is the manager of the restaurant.

And I would never give anyone a bad steak.

 

[YJ1]

X-3 was an epic failure due to a complete studio take over to make a quick buck..

They made that buck and then some. Seems like a smart business decision to me. (Worldwide: $460 Million)

if you guys just want to be entertained for an hour and a half with Hugh Jackman/Ryan Renolds badassness then I can't help you... I hope you enjoy the film in all honesty.

Thanks for giving us your permission to enjoy the film.

I was so deeply offended by X-3 as an X-Men fan.

More then likely, I've been an X-Men fan longer then you and I'm deeply offended that you think you can speak for all fans.

I can not support this garbage... no way in hell. It doesn't make me a better fan or anything... I just will do everything in my power to ensure this film fails. And that starts with not hyping it... I'll remove it from my sig once the runtime is confirmed.

In your honor, I'm going to buy an extra ticket at full price. I WILL support this movie and yes, that DOES make me a better fan. I just will do everything in my power to ensure this film succeeds.

One thing's for sure, if I hated this movie and this franchise so much I certainly wouldn't be posting here every five minutes.

 

[Deaths Head II]

They made that buck and then some. Seems like a smart business decision to me. (Worldwide: $460 Million)

One can really make the argument that the film would have made that much regardless of Fox's decision to put it out early. Considering the hype X2 created, I never really doubted people would be eager to see X3.

And the main question is if they've hurt the longevity of the franchise. We'll have to see with this film if X-3 didn't cause much backlash. People could have easily been unimpressed with X3 but they already bought the ticket. So this film will probably show the future of the franchise as a best seller which is probably worth more to Fox then one good summer intake. Personally though I think it'll still sell well. But I don't know if it'll sell as well as X3 did after the interest generated by X2.

In your honor, I'm going to buy an extra ticket at full price. I WILL support this movie and yes, that DOES make me a better fan. I just will do everything in my power to ensure this film succeeds.

How does that make you a better fan? I agree that one shouldn't speak for all fans but I don't think you should make a value scale of fandom either.

 

[Daredevil_2003]

No X film has even come close to Batman and Robin, some of you guys are way too melodramatic about this. I'm a big X-Fan, despite my namesake it's my favorite Marvel property, and I thought X3 was a fine movie on it's own, little (ok more than a little ) lacking in the faithfulness to the original story arc dept, but I don't think it was a spit in the face by any means. Maybe if you're one of the legions of Cyclops fanboys I can understand, but it wasn't that bad...it wouldn't have been such a huge success if it was a terrible movie.

Like all 3 of the films released thus far, it could have been better, in X3's case a lot better, but that doesn't mean it's the pile of dung that the popular opinion around here gravitates to.

And all the bashing of the new movie when all we have is some short (very good, IMO) trailers and TV spots is just silly. Watch the damn movie first, for crying out loud...

 

[Spidey 2007]

No X film has even come close to Batman and Robin, some of you guys are way too melodramatic about this. I'm a big X-Fan, despite my namesake it's my favorite Marvel property, and I thought X3 was a fine movie on it's own, little (ok more than a little ) lacking in the faithfulness to the original story arc dept, but I don't think it was a spit in the face by any means. Maybe if you're one of the legions of Cyclops fanboys I can understand, but it wasn't that bad...it wouldn't have been such a huge success if it was a terrible movie.

Like all 3 of the films released thus far, it could have been better, in X3's case a lot better, but that doesn't mean it's the pile of dung that the popular opinion around here gravitates to.

And all the bashing of the new movie when all we have is some short (very good, IMO) trailers and TV spots is just silly. Watch the damn movie first, for crying out loud...

Thanks for writing all that for me haha.. i was going to write exactly that and i thought to myself.. god these people are just so dumb so im not gonna bother typing any kind of message.

but good job! thanks. its a movie, its hollywood, it will go on forever. we'll get another x-men movie, another x-franchise, another deadpool incarnation...

 

[danoyse]

I'm going to repeat this warning because obviously everyone isn't getting the message.

This is not the X3 forum. Anyone who wants to discuss X3 and what went wrong/right with that film can go here:

http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=198

Furthermore, although you may have disliked X3, there is no reason to go bashing anyone who did. Nor is it acceptable to bash anyone who disliked X3. Showing disrespect to other posters over their opinion of X3 will not be tolerated.

Obviously, people have reservations about this film due to the way things went wrong with the last film (myself included), and that is fine.

But it's still perfectly acceptable for anyone who is still looking forward to Wolverine to be optimistic about it, and they shouldn't have to put up with the wrath of anyone still angry about the last film to tell them that they are wrong or that they will ultimately be disappointed.

So let's knock off the bashing and get back on topic. Thank you.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Just to continue the discussion we were having in the closed thread... re-posted these here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Microchip
The Runtime and THAT'S IT.

Exactly... too bad you get infractions in the runtime thread when you say this is the one problem that will drag this film down...

Quote:
Originally Posted by squeekness


I'm a little concerned about runtime as well, seeing as how it looks like they are going to cover a lot of time. I wonder if they are going to gloss over the whole Origin early parts and not give them their due. They could have made a whole movie from Origin alone. Now we have Origin, Weapon X, and Stryker all in an hour and half or so? I worry that some bits will be done too shallow to be believed.

Yeah the opening scene will probably be a good 5-10 minutes... then the flashbacks... another ten minutes... we won't really get into the story until 20 minutes in... coupled with the fact that we have 2-3 major cameos between Cyke, Emma, Gambit, Storm... that's another 10 minutes at least... so basically one hour of the actual weapons X story and the characters involved.

 

[echostation]

The action choreography looks a lot better in this film than the other films as both Bryan Singer and Brett Ratner left much to be desired in that department... It seems Jackman and Gavin Hood have done some really good work here in the trailers... I just hope hope hope the action scenes are great!

I did love that one part in the TV spot of Sabertooth chasing someone down while he's swinging and hanging from the walls

 

[danoyse]

Exactly... too bad you get infractions in the runtime thread when you say this is the one problem that will drag this film down...

That's not why you got an infraction. If you want to take that issue up with any of the mods, feel free to do so.

 

[FaT_tONle]

That's not why you got an infraction. If you want to take that issue up with any of the mods, feel free to do so.

I might just do that.

 

[Raiden]

The action choreography looks a lot better in this film than the other films as both Bryan Singer and Brett Ratner left much to be desired in that department... It seems Jackman and Gavin Hood have done some really good work here in the trailers... I just hope hope hope the action scenes are great!

I did love that one part in the TV spot of Sabertooth chasing someone down while he's swinging and hanging from the walls

I think he was chasing a young Cyclops.

 

[Figs]

Just to continue the discussion we were having in the closed thread... re-posted these here.

So why in the hell did the negative thread get close?

My only guess is people are too sensitive and biased and don't want people complaining about another Fox film.

 

[FaT_tONle]

So why in the hell did the negative thread get close?

My only guess is people are too sensitive and biased and don't want people complaining about another Fox film.

It is what it is... bad ratings on the Hype is my guess. Hell I was against the thread myself. But since some people can't allow appropriate discussions elsewhere... and not even allow a thread for all negative things... there is surely some bias there.

 

[Figs]

It is what it is... bad ratings on the Hype is my guess. Hell I was against the thread myself. But since some people can't allow appropriate discussions elsewhere... and not even allow a thread for all negative things... there is surely some bias there.

Personally, I think it would be better to have a negative thread much like the Negatron one they had back in the day for Transformers.

That way people who are disappointed with the film can go in there and discuss with each other what they don't like about it. The problem is the mods need to keep the people who do like the film from going in there just to start ****...not the other way around.

 

[danoyse]

So why in the hell did the negative thread get close?

My only guess is people are too sensitive and biased and don't want people complaining about another Fox film.

The "negative thread" was closed because the things being discussed in that thread can just as well be discussed in their individual threads rather then lumping them all together in one thread that will inevitably lead to endless bickering that will end up shutting down that thread anyway.

Of course negative discussion is allowed. There's plenty of it an nearly every thread on this forum, and it may continue as long as everyone can do it without attacking other posters in the process.

That was why Fat tONIe was infracted and his last post was deleted, not because he was being negative.

Once the movie has opened we will start a thread those who didn't like the film to discuss why they didn't like it. There's no need for a thread for that now.

 

[danoyse]

I might just do that.

Good. Then take it up with the mods and stop complaining about it here so we can get back on topic.

 

[Figs]

The "negative thread" was closed because the things being discussed in that thread can just as well be discussed in their individual threads rather then lumping them all together in one thread that will inevitably lead to endless bickering that will end up shutting down that thread anyway.

Of course negative discussion is allowed. There's plenty of it an nearly every thread on this forum, and it may continue as long as everyone can do it without attacking other posters in the process.

That was why Fat tONIe was infracted and his last post was deleted, not because he was being negative.

Once the movie has opened we will start a thread those who didn't like the film to discuss why they didn't like it. There's no need for a thread for that now.

No need for the eye roll smiley, what I said was truthfull and you see it everyday on any message boards.

For what I put in bold in your post. Well, that's good to hear. I just think that if you have too much complaining in the normal threads it's just going to start flame wars. I figured that a thread specifically for complaints would have worked better.