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You're right. That is it.

It's a bunch of robots based on a line of action figures in the 80's duking it out for 2 hours.

It's not deep, thought provoking stuff here.

It's just full of all sorts of win.

Well yea there is nothing wrong with that I suppose. But I'm just backing up my opinion on how I think Wolverine is a much better all round film compared to it's recent-ish rivals.
 
It's hard with Transformers, I'm glad it did well in the box office, I'll see the sequel. It's hard because it's about robots...fighting each other...I think they are doin the best they can...I mean look how Dragonball seemingly turned out? 0_o
 
I never went into Transformers hoping for Josh Duhamel would finally get his Best supporting Actor nom.. :p

TF is just giant robots and explosions. What else do you want?

-TNC
 
Nothing more really. Apart from some actual good acting. It doesn't matter if it's just a explosive action fest, it should still have some quality from the actual real people involved. As I said, the best actual acting performance in that film was from Optimus IMO. Every single other real human being actor in that film was just terrible.

Actually wait!!! I forgot, John Tutturo was the best thing about that film. But he is usally the best thing about any film he is in! :D

I'm just saying what sets Wolverine apart from that film. Transformers is mostly praised. Wolverine is mostly dissed. Even though as a all round film, Wolverine is much, much better IMO.
 
I never went into Transformers hoping for Josh Duhamel would finally get his Best supporting Actor nom.. :p

TF is just giant robots and explosions. What else do you want?

-TNC

Some people who loved the cartoons and the comics that I am sure had an actual story to them are offended by what has become of it... I mean I could care less but that's the attitude people like you an me have and that's why we don't have a problem with it. With X-Men, it's not as senseless as Bay films but what has become of certain characters in this series is a disgrace and fans care about X-Men a lot more so the negativity is more than warranted.
 
I never went into Transformers hoping for Josh Duhamel would finally get his Best supporting Actor nom.. :p

TF is just giant robots and explosions. What else do you want?

-TNC

It delivered in that regard, and it was completely satisfying. What would someone expect from a movie about a toy line and cartoon?

Wolverine, however, is based on a pretty important comic book that drew to an adult crowd since its inception.
 
Well yea there is nothing wrong with that I suppose. But I'm just backing up my opinion on how I think Wolverine is a much better all round film compared to it's recent-ish rivals.
Have to disagree. Wolverine as you said is just a popcorn flick and for us to enjoy it we have to shut off our minds and the fx and stunts are what makes this movie a lot better. However, Transformers beats Wolverine to a pulp in the fx and stunts/fights department so I would have to say that TF2 will be better than this. I haven't seen TF2 but I am going to say it will be a better all around film and so will HP6, Terminator, and Star Trek....it's rivals:o
 
Have to disagree. Wolverine as you said is just a popcorn flick and for us to enjoy it we have to shut off our minds and the fx and stunts are what makes this movie a lot better. However, Transformers beats Wolverine to a pulp in the fx and stunts/fights department so I would have to say that TF2 will be better than this. I haven't seen TF2 but I am going to say it will be a better all around film and so will HP6, Terminator, and Star Trek....it's rivals:o

you just threw all your common sense out the window just to spite this film once again.

Applause.
 
you just threw all your common sense out the window just to spite this film once again.

Applause.
You haven't seen the leaked version yet rated it and are talking about how good it is:huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh:

TF1 was better than this movie and so it is common sense to think this one will be even better.
 
TF1 was better than this movie and so it is common sense to think this one will be even better.

You haven't seen X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

You saw a raw cut of what was to eventually become X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

The problem with you is that you feel you have the right to judge the film in its unfinished form. You don't.

You didn't like the leak? Fine. But don't expect the rest of us that have some kind of respect for the film's crew to take the shortcut you took and pass judgment on something far from done.

You act like watching the leak made you wiser.

All it did was give you more ammo against a film you've been hating on since Day 1.

Why you take the time to post on a message board about how much you hate a movie is beyond me.

*I've never even set foot in the Spirit or Punisher Warzone forums.

Why would I wanna talk about how bad those movies were???

I got better things to do.
 
Have to disagree. Wolverine as you said is just a popcorn flick and for us to enjoy it we have to shut off our minds and the fx and stunts are what makes this movie a lot better. However, Transformers beats Wolverine to a pulp in the fx and stunts/fights department so I would have to say that TF2 will be better than this. I haven't seen TF2 but I am going to say it will be a better all around film and so will HP6, Terminator, and Star Trek....it's rivals:o

I didn't say Wolverine is just a pop corn flick. I said the opposite actually. There is some thought provoking stuff in there, not a lot, but it is definitely there. There is also some really great performances, especially Liev's.

Transformers had neither of those things. It wasn't thought provoking ATALL. Every single performance by an actual human being was absolute crap.

You haven't seen the leaked version yet rated it and are talking about how good it is:huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh:

TF1 was better than this movie and so it is common sense to think this one will be even better.

In your opinion Transformers 1 is better than this movie, and I think you are wrong, for the reason I just explained.
 
This version is 107 min
the true version add 10 min according to Rothman

No, apparently the REAL movie is still in the 106 - 109 minute range.

The leak was 106, but the material inside the REAL film might be different from the leak's.

The leaked workprint was dated pre-January 2009.

In these last 4 months alot may have been done to that workprint, not only from a visual standpoint (recent TV spots) but regarding the outcome of certain characters.
 
Just playing devil's advocate here but are we sure that that workprint is still from before the "reshoots" in Vancouver or has anyone brought up the possibility that this is another one of the studio's damage control?

I wouldn't put it pass this studio. Or any studio for that matter.
 
X-men Origins: Wolverine is not a bad movie. It's solid and has cool parts, but I believe Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen will be WAY better.
 
Just playing devil's advocate here but are we sure that that workprint is still from before the "reshoots" in Vancouver or has anyone brought up the possibility that this is another one of the studio's damage control?

I wouldn't put it pass this studio. Or any studio for that matter.


No one will know for sure until we see it.

But this workprint is definitely older than the latest batch of trailers and tv spots.

It's the one that was "reviewed" about 2 months ago, so it is definitely at least 2 months old.
 
No one will know for sure until we see it.

But this workprint is definitely older than the latest batch of trailers and tv spots.

It's the one that was "reviewed" about 2 months ago, so it is definitely at least 2 months old.

Jackman said the workprint is pre-January/pre-reshoots.

I don't think the guy's lying.
 
No one will know for sure until we see it.

But this workprint is definitely older than the latest batch of trailers and tv spots.

It's the one that was "reviewed" about 2 months ago, so it is definitely at least 2 months old.

My question really was that if people have actually entertained the idea that this is all just studio bs. That aside from the finished cgi and score, that the end product won't be drastically different from what we have in the workprint.
 
Well I believe Jackman more than I do Rothman.

Which is why I found it interesting that Hugh only used the Farrarri reference when talking about the leak and didn't mention anything about runtime. Hugh I don't think would lie about the movie at all, and if the finished version were 20 minutes longer or whatever, I'm sure he would have said it. I'm sure some elements will be different but in terms of run time, I don't think its going to be anything substantial so that 107M from the reliable source is probably right.
 
Yea, I don't think it will be much longer than the workprint. But I could imagine there will be some chopping and changing. Some scenes taken out, other scenes added in.

The most important thing they need to do IMO is have another scene with Wade. Explain how and why he ended up a lab rat. Reynolds himself said he has cancer in this film. So either Reynolds was flat out lying or there is some more to see.
 
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