The Run Time Length Thread

[chaseter]

This isn't the first time...this has been discussed with him many times. It's fine if he truly admires Fox's line of products but I think he either works for Fox or is Tom Rothman

 

[danoyse]

Amen sister.


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[Sam Fisher]

I reckon there will be a directors cut DVD anyway. Daredevil DC was like a whole new film, hopefully if this one is short, they follow suit.

Elektra and FF DCs weren't.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well Elektra couldn't ever be saved no matter what. And i haven't see the FF DC.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

To be fair, run time doesn't ALWAYS indicate the quality of a film. I don't think the run time thing would be a problem if the films were actually any good. If Fantastic Four was a good film, Dr Doom was Dr Doom for instance i dont think there woudl be a problem

 

[X-Maniac]

Elektra and FF DCs weren't.

The Elektra extended cut is only a few seconds longer, with fight scenes that are more violent, as far as i am aware.

The extended FF is much better, despite a couple of oddities. It did make an entertaining but average film a bit better, for sure.

 

[chaseter]

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[chaseter]

To be fair, run time doesn't ALWAYS indicate the quality of a film. I don't think the run time thing would be a problem if the films were actually any good. If Fantastic Four was a good film, Dr Doom was Dr Doom for instance i dont think there woudl be a problem

No it doesn't always but I would say run time affects a movie more so than not at all. A longer movie has room to breathe, provide more depth, and allow more liberties while a shorter time constricts everything. No not every 90 minute movie sucks but there are better and more successful films over 2 hours when compared to 90 minute flicks.

 

[sniktsnakt]

^Yup. With all of these characters and what they have to cover in Wolverine's past, the blanket would have to be stretched extremely thin if the time length is only 90 minutes or so.

 

[Jick]

2 hours is perfect, for me.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but sometimes a overly long film can be just as negative as a short film you know what i mean?

 

[chaseter]

I know what you mean but how many times have you said that a movie was too long as compared to a movie that was too short? Especially with movies that contain our favorite superheroes? 9 times out of 10, I would say a 2 hour + movie is better than a 90 minute movie critically and commercially.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Well, some people say TDK was too long.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I know what you mean but how many times have you said that a movie was too long as compared to a movie that was too short? Especially with movies that contain our favorite superheroes? 9 times out of 10, I would say a 2 hour + movie is better than a 90 minute movie critically and commercially.

Fair points.

But what I'm trying to say is that you can't really judge a film and say it is too short before you have seen it. Yea if they come out and say it's going to be barely 90 minutes or whatever, the signs don't look good. But really, we don't know for certain yet, not to the degree to completely right it off.

I know Wolverine has a very interesting, century spanding story to tell, but it all depends on the execution and how it is compressed. You could say Wolverines entire origin could make for a 3 hour long film. But that could feel too spaced out and stretched. Whereas compressing it down into 1hr 45 minutes or so(which i hope) could make it actually more entertaining and not long winded.

I'm a massive fan of TDK as you all know. But even i thought that in parts, it got way too long winded.

 

[narrows101]

I think it all depends on your fan point of view. Since I'm a massive Hugh fan, nothing he would be in is too long for me. A lot of people thought his movie "Australia" was too long at 2:45 but I absolutely loved it. And while I like comic book movies, I'm less of a fan if Hugh isn't in it and I thought TDK was too long. So I think it's all your perspective and what you want to see/how the movie is playing out.

 

[X-Maniac]

I would expect the film to be around or just over two hours if it is to do justice to all of Wolverine's backstory and the number of other characters.

TDK felt the right length and so did Watchmen. The X-movies all have pacing/length issues, they don't feel 'complete'.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I felt that some scenes dragged so much in TDK. After repeated viewings I now get bored pretty easily. I find myself thinking "Just ****ing get on with it already!!!". In some cases it seemed they went the long way round of explaining something just to make it seem more intellectual.

 

[X-Maniac]

I felt that some scenes dragged so much in TDK. After repeated viewings I now get bored pretty easily. I find myself thinking "Just ****ing get on with it already!!!". In some cases it seemed they went the long way round of explaining something just to make it seem more intellectual.

Must admit i got bored watching TDK at home, I paused it just after the truck thing tips over, then i switched off and couldn't be bothered to watch the rest!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I find myself doing that when i watch it now. I watch it all up to the part where Harvey is in hospital and Joker escapes in the cop car. I personally think they could of ended the movie there and saved Harvey actually turning into Two Face and more plots from the Joker for the next one.

 

[chaseter]

I would expect the film to be around or just over two hours if it is to do justice to all of Wolverine's backstory and the number of other characters.

TDK felt the right length and so did Watchmen. The X-movies all have pacing/length issues, they don't feel 'complete'.

I agree...and look at the critical reviews if you want further validation on short movies. To even further that, look at the box office take. Longer movies generally make more money most of the time because they are better films. Look at all the superhero movies made if you want a real comparison. Most of the ones that did good at the B.O. and did good critically are not short films.

 

[chaseter]

I felt that some scenes dragged so much in TDK. After repeated viewings I now get bored pretty easily. I find myself thinking "Just ****ing get on with it already!!!". In some cases it seemed they went the long way round of explaining something just to make it seem more intellectual.

Sorry but I would rather feel like I saw more than I wanted to like with TDK than feel like I didn't see enough and dissapointed like I was with X3, FF 1&2, etc...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but looking at TDK now, after watching it so many times, I think they should of ended it with Joker escaping and Harvey ending up in hospital.

 

[chaseter]

Yea but looking at TDK now, after watching it so many times, I think they should of ended it with Joker escaping and Harvey ending up in hospital.

You can have that opinion but mind you are in the vast minority on that. People would have *****ed that it didn't have resolution and that cliff hangers suck. Plus Heath died and the next one would have really sucked.

Once again, I am not saying this movie will definitely suck if it is around 90 minutes but I would say I am about 90% sure it will if it is around 90 minutes. And if that is the case, this movie will not get my money.

 

[stardust]

I felt that some scenes dragged so much in TDK. After repeated viewings I now get bored pretty easily. I find myself thinking "Just ****ing get on with it already!!!". In some cases it seemed they went the long way round of explaining something just to make it seem more intellectual.

I felt the same about scenes dragging, and I got the same feeling while watching Watchmen, but I don't think we have to worry about that with Wolverine.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea. I know Wolverine has a very interesting and long history. But to be honest, I think it's pretty clear this is just going to be a explosive action movie. Not a in depth study on him. And apparently they want to further explore his origins with a Japan movie. So it isn't as though they are trying to cram his WHOLE origin into one movie.