The Run Time Length Thread

[Peter McCabe]

Vinnie was cast by Matthew Vaughn...who since claimed his version of the film would be better even though he never had the guts to stick around and go through with it.

Since no person alive has the shape/build of Juggernaut, any movie version is always going to be a toned-down version.

I liked Vinnie as Marco ALOT.

perfect bloke for jackman to duke it out with

 

[King of Kings]

X3 being the tragedy of X3 is all inclusive.

Touché.

 

[Downhere]

Vinnie was cast by Matthew Vaughn...who since claimed his version of the film would be better even though he never had the guts to stick around and go through with it.

I wouldn't say he didn't have the guts to go through with it. From what I understand, he wasn't thrilled about the production schedule and probably got a hint at how the studio would treat him during the production and decided to cut his losses.

 

[X-Maniac]

I wouldn't say he didn't have the guts to go through with it.

I would.

From what I understand, he wasn't thrilled about the production schedule and probably got a hint at how the studio would treat him during the production and decided to cut his losses.

Which more or less says that he didn't have the guts to go through with it. Whatever the reason, he didn't stick around.

 

[Downhere]

I would.



Which more or less says that he didn't have the guts to go through with it. Whatever the reason, he didn't stick around.

Well, I guess it depends on how you look at it. I mean, there are reasons why certain director's won't work with Fox. They must be pretty bad if some director's swear them off completely.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Which more or less says that he didn't have the guts to go through with it. Whatever the reason, he didn't stick around.

yea I agree.

he punked out of THOR too and that really bothered me.

 

[Electrix]

Which more or less says that he didn't have the guts to go through with it. Whatever the reason, he didn't stick around.

He said he wanted to make the best X-Men movie he could and under the circumstances that wouldn't happen. He had the guts otherwise he wouldn't have signed up in the first place.

he punked out of THOR too and that really bothered me.

I'm not one to name drop but I had the chance to visit the Kick-Ass set last November and I asked him about Thor. He said at one point they were 2 weeks away from filming but Marvel backed out because 1) Iron Man hadn't been release yet and and they wanted to wait and see how that went and 2) The film he wanted to make would have required a large budget. Rather than sit around and wait for Marvel he decided to make Kick-Ass. Then Marvel moved on without him and got Kenneth Branagh. Vaughn said he'd still like to make a movie with Marvel in the future.

 

[protocida]

I liked X3, but there are some thing that did bothered me:

1. Cyclop's death. They could kill him off, but I think it could've been done better.
2. Mistique's betrayal. The original version of the Script, where we find out everything was a set up made by her and Magneto, with whom she mets at the park, would be better.

I really liked Juggernaut in the movie. He was really funny. I think it would be really cool if he appeared in a Wolverine movie, in his Ultimate version, which is a part of the Weapon X Project, but that would never happen...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I thought Vinnie did a good job as Juggernaut, considering what he was given to work with.

The fight at Jean's house was awesome, especially the bit where he smashes Logan through one part of the ceiling and he falls through another part of the ceiling the other side of the house But that fight was too short really, they could of made Wolverine vs Juggernaut a truly epic battle.

 

[Neptune]

Juggernaut should have ripped him in half like hulk did.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Juggernaut should have ripped him in half like hulk did.

movie wolverine cant be ripped in half nor desintegrated.

 

[Microchip]

Yea I thought Vinnie did a good job as Juggernaut, considering what he was given to work with.

The fight at Jean's house was awesome, especially the bit where he smashes Logan through one part of the ceiling and he falls through another part of the ceiling the other side of the house But that fight was too short really, they could of made Wolverine vs Juggernaut a truly epic battle.

They did, actually. Search youtube for the extended version of that fight, it's about 30 seconds to a minute longer and adds a bit of violence and a... somewhat strange Wolverine/Storm double teaming on Juggernaut. They shortened down the scene for theatrical because APPARENTLY the length messed with the flow.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Interesting, I'll have to check it out.

But I mean they should of made a Wolverine vs Juggernaut fight a real centre piece of the movie. Make it like a brutal, ten minute long tear up.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I think it was more dissapointing that we didn't have a Collosus versus Juggernaut fight.

 

[Downhere]

I think it was more dissapointing that we didn't have a Collosus versus Juggernaut fight.

That's true, that would have been a great fight.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Interesting, I'll have to check it out.

But I mean they should of made a Wolverine vs Juggernaut fight a real centre piece of the movie. Make it like a brutal, ten minute long tear up.

agreed

I was hoping we would get that at the end of the film, but the real concern was Phoenix so it woulda been too much.

the film really needed another hour.

it needed all the deleted scenes, some of the alternates and 30 minutes of further character development for the supporting players.

*I still think sacrificing Scott was necessary to demonstrate how unstable Jean Grey was going to be in the film.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Matthew Vaughn leaving was the best thing to ever happen to X-Men: The Last Stand.

 

[Downhere]

Matthew Vaughn leaving was the best thing to ever happen to X-Men: The Last Stand.

I don't know about that, both Layer Cake and Stardust were awesome movies. I think he would have did a great job on an X-Men film if he were given control and not micromanaged.

 

[BMM]

A part of me still wants to see Wolverine running around with Leech in a backpack.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't know about that, both Layer Cake and Stardust were awesome movies. I think he would have did a great job on an X-Men film if he were given control and not micromanaged.

Vaughn in control got us a dead Cyclops, a dead Xavier, would have gotten us Wolverine running around on Alcatraz with Leech in a backpack, and a horrible Danger Room sequence in which Iceman regenerated from being burnt down to a skeleton.

God knows what other absurd, ridiculous ideas he was about to come up with.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Matthew Vaughn leaving was the best thing to ever happen to X-Men: The Last Stand.

he made some great creative choices during his time with the production though.

Kelsey as Beast was genius. cant believe I had never thought about it after watching Frasier for 10 years straight t:

*I think Ratner's intensity in certain scenes worked great, but the overall pace of the film was too fast.

Vaughn woulda taken a more calm approach, but I doubt we woulda gotten the fight at Jean's house with Vaughn.

 

[Downhere]

Vaughn in control got us a dead Cyclops, a dead Xavier, would have gotten us Wolverine running around on Alcatraz with Leech in a backpack, and a horrible Danger Room sequence in which Iceman regenerated from being burnt down to a skeleton.

God knows what other absurd, ridiculous ideas he was about to come up with.

Considering some of those absurd ideas made it into the film, it wouldn't have made a difference. Either way they went down the wrong road on #3.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Considering some of those absurd ideas made it into the film, it wouldn't have made a difference. Either way they went down the wrong road on #3.

The deaths of cyclops and xavier were not absurd at all.

Phoenix had to prove her insanity and the people closest to her were the best candidates to demonstrate that.

 

[Downhere]

The deaths of cyclops and xavier were not absurd at all.

Phoenix had to prove her insanity and the people closest to her were the best candidates to demonstrate that.

Xavier didn't bother me as much as Cyke's death, which was beyond sucktastic (yes, I made up a word).

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea they had to show that Jean completely lost control and was over taken by the Pheonix. What better way to demonstrate that then killing the people that she thought was holding her back.ie. Scott and Charles.