Arrow The Slade Wilson/Deathstroke Thread!

[Loki882]

I just had a thought, this season really is Green Arrow: Born Again. Slade's plan to get back at Oliver is VERY similar to the Kingpin's plan to destroy Dardevil's life in that story, even down to the fact that both villains know the hero's secret identity.

 

[mr. peasant]

It's not really hard to imagine slade coming into a lot of money considering how smart he is.

How smart is he? From what we've seen on the show, he's no smarter than the average human.

 

[Boy Scout]

I think Slade is a bit more intelligent than the average person.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Or even the average bear.

 

[Loki882]

The SSS may not just increase his physical abilities. It may also increase his intelligence as well.

 

[Artistsean]

Spoiler

Slade Wilson (New Earth)

Powers and AbilitiesEdit

Powers

• Unique Physiology: Due to a military enhancement procedure, Slade Wilson's physiology was changed permanently. First, the procedure crippled his mind and body. Then, the experiment rebuilt his physical and mental faculties further than a human could process or build. These enhancements make Deathstroke an enhanced human, not superhuman and afford him the enhancements.

• Enhanced Intellect: Able to think 9 times faster and utilize that much more of his mind than your average human for information processing and sorting, Deathstroke's mind is virtually a computer built for strategy and problem-solving, one that works at optimal ability even when under stress and fatigue. He is also ingenious in devising solutions against superior aspects of opponents, can observe and exploit, and can calculate distance, speed, and time at lightning speeds; his sense of timing is superb, bordering on perfection.
• Enhanced Reflexes: Deathstroke possesses enhanced reflexes. The speed at which he reacts allows him to dodge fast-moving projectiles such as arrows and bullets. He can usually out-react even the fastest humans, no matter how well-trained.
• Enhanced Speed: Ability to run at speeds of up to 30mph and long distances far out-performing any Olympic athlete.
• Enhanced Stamina: Deathstroke can exert himself at peak capacity greater then any human could.
• Enhanced Strength: His entire muscular system was hardened and strengthened making Deathstroke many times stronger than an average human to the point of tearing off an airplane door and twisting steel with his bare hands.
• Enhanced Senses: Deathstroke's senses have been augmented to higher levels of ability. He can perceive things better than a normal human. This includes, but is not limited to:

• Enhanced Hearing
• Enhanced Sense of Smell
• Enhanced Vision

• Regenerative Healing Factor: With an enhanced ability to heal damaged tissue, the rate at which Deathstroke's body recovers from injury and capable of being repaired before death. As such, Deathstroke's body can take a tremendous amount of punishment before succumbing to death. Simple gunshot and stab wounds, cuts, and broken bones can heal faster than normal. He was once impaled clean through his chest, and it did nothing but slow him down and cause great pain.

• Enhanced Immunity: Deathstroke's regenerative abilities have some affect on his body's ability to process through harmful, foreign substances and he has become naturally immune to deadly poisons and illnesses.
• ******ed Aging: An important aspect to note is that while Deathstroke is apparently aging, he does so very slowly, appearing younger than he actually is.

Abilities

• Tactical Analysis: Slade is a great strategist and tactician. Always calculating his opponents moves before hand; he even single handedly defeated the JLA roster that lacked the "Big Three". He has been compared to Batman in terms of tactical methods. Even against metahumans he has proven more than a match for them all at once with time to prepare. Roy Harper once claimed the Slade was, "The worlds greatest tactician." Using his superior problem-solving skills, Deathstroke can work out a battle ahead of time for many possibilities and predict enemy movements and tactics after the battle has engaged by recalling and utilizing memorized mannerisms acquired through past experience on a moment's notice.
• Hand-to-Hand Combat (Advanced): Slade trained in hand-to-hand combat and when he was in the Army, he proved himself to be one of their best fighters.. Later he received martial arts training in various styles. After mastering these martial arts he furthered his studies when he sought an assassin known as Natas to train him in the ways of Ninja and had studied assassination techniques. His physical prowess is so great that he has defeated Batman in hand to hand combat.[6]

• Boxing
• Jujitsu
• Karate
• Ninjitsu

Swordsmanship: Deathstroke is a highly trained swordsman; he is able to dual-wield a pair of katanas and to use them with deadly accuracy and an almost-superhuman speed.

Also, someone earlier mentioned that "isn't he married with a kid?"
But in the comics Slade was never noble to his family, and him and his
family always had a rocky relationship:

 

[Brian Braddock]

How smart is he? From what we've seen on the show, he's no smarter than the average human.

That's pre-Mirakuru though; we've yet to see Slade operate post-Mirakuru and if he's anything like the Deathstoke of the comics then his intelligence has been augmented also.

I'm hoping thats the case, anyways.

 

[mr. peasant]

That's pre-Mirakuru though; we've yet to see Slade operate post-Mirakuru and if he's anything like the Deathstoke of the comics then his intelligence has been augmented also.

I'm hoping thats the case, anyways.

It's certainly a possibility. However, Cyrus Gold would seem to suggest otherwise. Blood - and the show - certainly treated him as "dumb muscle".

 

[Loki882]

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Also, someone earlier mentioned that "isn't he married with a kid?"
But in the comics Slade was never noble to his family, and him and his
family always had a rocky relationship:

I like Deathstroke, but that fight scene with the JL was grade-A BS. The writer had to write the JL as being complete idiots just to make Slade look cool, which doesn't fit their character or his. Also, I'd love to see Rose Wilson show up at some point.

 

[Artistsean]

So would I. He, like many on the show, has a rich supporting cast. His wife who shoots him in the eye, is also a mercenary I think, and becomes head of HIVE. His son he Grant, who became a mercenary because of his father. His son who they mentioned Joseph who he stabs to death. His daughter Rose who blinds herself to be like her father. Maybe they could even bring in Terra, although I could do without the sleeping with an under aged girl thing.
Oh, and maybe Team 7 too. Which would bring in Grifter. Amanda Waller. Etc. (To maybe explain how he ended up on the island.)

I also agree about the JLA thing. I was just showing that in the comics, even though they had to weaken the JLA, Slade is shown to be a smart man and his powers list his intelligence. And Its because of the Super Soldier Serum. He is almost like an evil Captain America.


Do you think that they will have him and Shado end up sleeping together before she and he "die" and maybe that will lead to Rose?
Instead of having him sleep with Lillian Worth?

 

[Herolee10]

I'm kind of curious towards seeing on how Slade will death with Ivo when he comes across him within the near future..or eh..past.

I can't imagine the character being written to doing anything less than applying some brutal pain towards him before finishing him off as a means of avenging Shado.

 

[Artistsean]

I'm kind of curious towards seeing on how Slade will death with Ivo when he comes across him within the near future..or eh..past.

I can't imagine the character being written to doing anything less than applying some brutal pain towards him before finishing him off as a means of avenging Shado.

I could see Ivo manipulating him into seeing that it was all Oliver's fault. And maybe even Slade taking over making Ivo is second in command and becoming the new boss and going after Oliver and his girlfriend Sarah. But I don't think Slade would need Ivo that much and eventually Sarah will kill Ivo.

 

[Sub-Zero]

where's terra?

 

[Herolee10]

So do you guys think that Slade, in some level, still actually sees Oliver as his friend from the Island and hence that being the reason why he doesn't want to kill Oliver? Or does he just think that death is too good for Oliver and that he thinks that it'll be more fitting for him to put him (Oliver) through emotional hell instead?

 

[Arachnid]

So do you guys think that Slade, in some level, still actually sees Oliver as his friend from the Island and hence that being the reason why he doesn't want to kill Oliver? Or does he just think that death is too good for Oliver and that he thinks that it'll be more fitting for him to put him (Oliver) through emotional hell instead?

No doubt emotional hell.

 

[Rorschach2012]

where's terra?

Forreal, I can see her coming to the show for sure.

 

[godisawesome]

So do you guys think that Slade, in some level, still actually sees Oliver as his friend from the Island and hence that being the reason why he doesn't want to kill Oliver? Or does he just think that death is too good for Oliver and that he thinks that it'll be more fitting for him to put him (Oliver) through emotional hell instead?

Well, to point this out, Slade never says he wants to kill Oliver, and considering the way they used the ghosts as foreshadowing in the episode, it may be he wants to make sure that "Wherever I am right now, it's about time you joined me." He does use the present tense version of "is my friend" when describing him, and it would be all kinds of fascinating if they made it clear he thinks Oliver's weaknesses need to be removed, and he feels he can fulfill that part of the bargain while still getting some payback.

Of course, part of me is hoping he and Malcolm become aware of each other and start messing with each other's plans. Like maybe after Malcolm traumatizes Thea a bit more and tries to bring her to his side, she gets rescued by Slade, and we get a weird twist on the "turning the pupil to the dark side" storyline. Like she loves training with Slade and even gets some bond with him, but is horrified that he's going to hurt Oliver. Plus, it could tie her to being a combo of Rose and Mia, which would be fun to watch.

 

[regnak]

Forreal, I can see her coming to the show for sure.

Felicity will end up filling her role after Slade corrupts her.

 

[Artistsean]

I think they should bring in Grant Wilson AKA Ravager.

I actually would have had him show up before Slade revealed himself in the show. So the audience thinks it is Slade and finds out it is his son Grant. Then Oliver and Grant fight, big epic battle that leads to Oliver having to kill Grant. Then Slade returns on the scene now angry at Oliver for murdering his son.

They should still do this, just maybe show this is what brings Slade back into action. He finds out his son Grant, who always wanted to be like his father and became a soldier/then navy seal/then soldier of fortune to impress and be like his father, enlists in the Brother Blood program and becomes a super soldier. Only it leads to Oliver having to kill the blood thirsty Grant.
Now Slade has a real hatred for Oliver. Because, currently its hard to buy that this is all over Slade/Shado/Oliver love triangle with her death thing.

 

[godisawesome]

I think Shado's only the beginning of a soon to grow feud between the two. If I had to guess, Slade goes ballistic when he finds out about the real circumstances of Shado's death, and probably targets Sara, believing she's to blame as much as Oliver and Ivo. Oliver saves Sara, and somewhere during the confrontation, Slade gets an arrow through his eye and falls in front of a fire (Ollie says he burned the body of the Mirakuru man he fought earlier). Knowing he's beaten, Slade asks Ollie to put him out of his misery. Oliver hesitates because he still feels a friendship for Slade, maybe even trying to rescue him instead, but the fire threatens his life as well, and he leaves, turning his back on Slade (like the hallucination accused him of doing), and he left Slade to the fire.

That's just my theory, mind you.

 

[Artistsean]

Thats a good theory, and makes sense. I still want Oliver to face Grant Wilson, dressed as Deathstroke, to make the audience think its Slade only to reveal its Slade's son. Then it is revealed in flashbacks that Grant sneaked into the program and got injected with the blood all in an effort to be the son his father always wanted. It wouldn't take away from what I know see as a good reason to be mad (like you said) but it would also give him more reason if Oliver was seen as responsible for Grant's death.
Grant thinks Slade is dead and is maybe contacted by Brother Blood who is trying to gain an upper hand or something. There is a connection to Adeline and HIVE as well. And brings Grant in to hopefully recreate Slade so he wont have to use him. It could also turn out that the real person behind all this is Adeline herself who knows Slade is alive but hates him. But these are just ideas.

OK, so now I am just rambling off my own ideas but how about this:
As of right now the audience knows there is a group called HIVE. They also know that Slade controls Brother Blood, using him to create Super Soldiers to attack Oliver. What could be revealed is that Brother Blood is also working for HIVE (first thought to be its leader) and HIVE's leader is Adeline Kane (formerly Wilson) who tells her son Grant that Slade his father died on the island at the hands of Oliver Queen/Green Arrow. She sends him to Brother Blood to become a Super Soldier. He dresses as Deathstroke/Wintergreen and goes after Oliver. It is revealed that it is not Slade or Winter but Grant and at the end of the fight Grant dies. Slade hears about his death and is angry over Oliver's involvement and Brother Blood's. It was all orchestrated by Adeline Kane who also has another son, Joseph. She is targeting both Oliver and Slade in an effort to control HIVE and the soon to be Super Soldier population. Her other son Joseph is more of a Wild Card, a double agent. He goes by the name Jericho while communicating with Oliver. During his efforts to help he is injected with some experimental blood and gains his own power to control other's bodies. But his efforts to help everyone, help his mother in her plans, help Oliver in his plans, and help his father in his plans, ends up costing him is life.

After both Adeline and Slade are killed off pr gone and after maybe a season or two Rose Wilson shows up as the new Deathstroke, angry at the vigilante Green Arrow for murdering her father, and she finds out that he also is responsible for the deaths of her brother's Joseph and Grant.

Spoiler

I think Slade is a great character with a great dysfunctional family. I also would like his wife Adeline, his son Joseph, and his daughter Rose, to eventually show up on Arrow too.
But I like the story idea I have for Grant.

Rose I can see showing up seasons later to avenger her father, and maybe even stabbing her eye to be like him.
Michelle Trachtenberg (?) from Buffy and Gossip Girl as Rose

Stephanie Romanov (from Angel) could play Adeline

 

[Herolee10]

Question, if that serum that Roy took is the same as the one that Slade took, then why doesn't Slade's missing eye regenerate itself then? I mean, from what I gathered from seeing "Three Ghosts", it seems like the serum can help its user regenerate and heal damaged tissue at a Wolverine-like rate.

 

[Nathan]

I think it's probably more like enhanced healing, than actual regeneration. Or maybe the effect is really strong at the beginning, but weakens once the serum stabilizes.

 

[godisawesome]

Maybe he took a poison arrow to the eye? We see both Slade and Roy both have life threatening wounds heal immediately and completely.

 

[Artistsean]

In the comics he lost his eye when his wife shot him in it years before the serum.

But in the show, , not sure. Maybe he lost it in that explosion that nearly killed him.
And the serum regenerated him but he had already lost that eye for good in the blast.
Like it was gone, but the rest of his body was heal-able.

And Roy's wound wasn't permanent or would have been but because of the drug he healed better than he would have.
Slade lost his eye while Roy didn't loose his leg.

So, I guess the Drug heals a person who is injured but cannot regenerate body parts.
Thats my guess.

Of coarse since its a TV show they can alter things, maybe the serum did heal his eye along with everything else.
But he and Oliver got in a huge epic fight and it ended up destroying his eye for good some convoluted way we haven't seen yet.