The Snowman (Fassbender)

[Tvar10]

Im just excited to see Val Kilmer back on the big screen in something relevant.

 

[Web-Head]

Well, that's disappointing! The trailers had me interested!

Same

 

[Hurm...]

Child 44 wasted good source material and a good cast too.

Indeed. I didn't think the final product was completely terrible though.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/director-tomas-alfredson-reveals-went-wrong-snowman-153117316.html

The director of the critically-panned ‘The Snowman’ says he didn’t manage to shoot everything he wanted on his adaptation of Jo Nesbø’s crime thriller, suggesting around 10-15% of the script remained unfilmed. The missing scenes left big gaps in the story, which in turn caused them major headaches in the edit suite.

“Our shoot time in Norway was way too short, we didn’t get the whole story with us and when we started cutting we discovered that a lot was missing,” Tomas Alfredson explained to NRK (the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation).

“It’s like when you’re making a big jigsaw puzzle and a few pieces are missing so you don’t see the whole picture.”

He also suggests that the film was rushed into production after receiving funding saying, “It happened very abruptly, suddenly we got notice that we had the money and could start the shoot in London.”

 

[Boom]

Oh well. Nothing to do but move on to Smiley's People, Tomas.

 

[Hurm...]

Ouch, that's terrible to hear. I hope all the details on why the production was a mess come out.

 

[Sawyer]

I can't help but chuckle when a TV ad for this comes on and they go out with what I'm assuming they thought was a super dramatic final shot of the snowman head on the dead guy. If I didn't know this was a book that evidently did pretty well, I'd think it was spoof.

 

[squeekness]

I still want to see it, it's hard for me to turn down a crime drama.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I saw the film yesterday and I've never read the book or any of the reviews, I thought it was a decent thriller, it's a bit of a slow burner but builds well and has a lot in it, with plenty of intrigue, atmosphere and good performance with some stunningly shot loactions.

I said to my cousin when we came out that I felt some plot threads needed expanding on which often hapopens with crime novel adaptions, so I'm not surprised to hear the director say there was more he wanted to shoot to flesh the story out further. The ending is a bit flat but I don't know is that is down to the book or the movie.

Overall, judging it purely as a film, I quite enjoyed it.

 

[Lasirius]

Disappointed given the source material and the talent behind this. I'll watch it cause I think it still looks good.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I'll give this a watch.

 

[TheCardPlayer]

I saw the film yesterday and I've never read the book or any of the reviews, I thought it was a decent thriller, it's a bit of a slow burner but builds well and has a lot in it, with plenty of intrigue, atmosphere and good performance with some stunningly shot loactions.

I said to my cousin when we came out that I felt some plot threads needed expanding on which often hapopens with crime novel adaptions, so I'm not surprised to hear the director say there was more he wanted to shoot to flesh the story out further. The ending is a bit flat but I don't know is that is down to the book or the movie.

Overall, judging it purely as a film, I quite enjoyed it.

I love the book and I love the twists in it, and if they ruined them...God. I don't know what to say. Is this still the plot? BIG SPOILERS AHEAD

Spoiler

Katrine the cop made up the letters to Harry, to make him investigate the murders because she feels he's the only one that can solve them. The Snowman killed her dad. She frames some guy she thinks did it,
and Harry finds her evil letter lair. She's arrested, and Harry realizes the killer is his ex's boyfriend when he finds that a body at the university the guy works at, is labelled from an African country but belongs to a white woman. He cuffs the killer to himself in a ski resort, and they fight and fall off a cliff.
They both survive and well...book end.

Edit. Reread the book again, and it's actually a tattoo of a flag on the victim.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I love the book and I love the twists in it, and if they ruined them...God. I don't know what to say. Is this still the plot? BIG SPOILERS AHEAD

Spoiler

Katrine the cop made up the letters to Harry, to make him investigate the murders because she feels he's the only one that can solve them. The Snowman killed her dad. She frames some guy she thinks did it,
and Harry finds her evil letter lair. She's arrested, and Harry realizes the killer is his ex's boyfriend when he finds that a body at the university the guy works at, is labelled from an African country but belongs to a white woman. He cuffs the killer to himself in a ski resort, and they fight and fall off a cliff.
They both survive and well...book end.

Yeah...I at least hope they have the big set piece

Spoiler

with him having to save his ex from the laser loop tool "riding" the snowman.

It's written so intense. Hopefully they can capture some of that. I thought

Spoiler

he was going to lose more than some fingers for sure. I expected at least a hand, so the writer had me on the edge of my seat.

Honestly, if that's missing, the movie totally failed. That's the big "payoff". I have a feeling that, at minimum, it's been watered down.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I love the book and I love the twists in it, and if they ruined them...God. I don't know what to say. Is this still the plot? BIG SPOILERS AHEAD

Spoiler

Katrine the cop made up the letters to Harry, to make him investigate the murders because she feels he's the only one that can solve them. The Snowman killed her dad. She frames some guy she thinks did it,
and Harry finds her evil letter lair. She's arrested, and Harry realizes the killer is his ex's boyfriend when he finds that a body at the university the guy works at, is labelled from an African country but belongs to a white woman. He cuffs the killer to himself in a ski resort, and they fight and fall off a cliff.
They both survive and well...book end.

Spoiler

The Snowman having killed Katrine's dad is there but the letter lair part is not made very clear, I'll be honest I might be wrong but it made it seem like the new boyfriend of his ex was the one that wrote the letters, Katrine was already dead at the point when Harry finds the letter lair and the pics of the various missing women, and she never gets around to framing Arve Stop.

There's no ski resort or handcuff scene, the way it ends it appears The Snowman is dead as he falls through the ice and seemingly drowns, mirroring how his mother died.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah...I at least hope they have the big set piece

Spoiler

with him having to save his ex from the laser loop tool "riding" the snowman.

It's written so intense. Hopefully they can capture some of that. I thought

Spoiler

he was going to lose more than some fingers for sure. I expected at least a hand, so the writer had me on the edge of my seat.

Honestly, if that's missing, the movie totally failed. That's the big "payoff". I have a feeling that, at minimum, it's been watered down.

Spoiler

That is there minus the riding, he just stands behind her with it around her neck and asks Harry questions, every time he percieves Harry to be lying he tightens the loop.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Spoiler

That is there minus the riding, he just stands behind her with it around her neck and asks Harry questions, every time he percieves Harry to be lying he tightens the loop.

Between this and what you posted above, this sounds super weak. It sounds EXTREMELY watered down, and the saddest part of this whole thing is this probably means none of his other books will get the movie treatment now. He's an interesting character. What a shame.

 

[kevork89]

Just watched this. Filmed and acted beautifully. Very weak as a film though. Michael and Rebecca did great with what they were given but it was quite dull. It was a decent enough thriller but extremely predictable and Val Kilmer...what the hell happened to his face?!?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Just watched this. Filmed and acted beautifully. Very weak as a film though. Michael and Rebecca did great with what they were given but it was quite dull. It was a decent enough thriller but extremely predictable and Val Kilmer...what the hell happened to his face?!?

Have you read the book by chance?

 

[Loki882]

Spoiler

The Snowman having killed Katrine's dad is there but the letter lair part is not made very clear, I'll be honest I might be wrong but it made it seem like the new boyfriend of his ex was the one that wrote the letters, Katrine was already dead at the point when Harry finds the letter lair and the pics of the various missing women, and she never gets around to framing Arve Stop.

There's no ski resort or handcuff scene, the way it ends it appears The Snowman is dead as he falls through the ice and seemingly drowns, mirroring how his mother died.

Spoiler

If I'm not mistaken, Katrine doesn't die in the book either. So if they killed her off here, that sounds really lame.

 

[TheCardPlayer]

Spoiler

The Snowman having killed Katrine's dad is there but the letter lair part is not made very clear, I'll be honest I might be wrong but it made it seem like the new boyfriend of his ex was the one that wrote the letters, Katrine was already dead at the point when Harry finds the letter lair and the pics of the various missing women, and she never gets around to framing Arve Stop.

There's no ski resort or handcuff scene, the way it ends it appears The Snowman is dead as he falls through the ice and seemingly drowns, mirroring how his mother died.

I'll see in context if it still works for me...I mean I love The Bone Collector, so my thriller standards are pretty low. But man, that reads like they really messed the book up.

 

[Loki882]

It sounds like it makes it more generic/predictable and far less clever?

I was watching a review for it a few minutes ago, and the reviewer really laid out some just basic filmmaking problems with it as well.

 

[Kane52630]

My review

Spoiler

Man this was a doozy to get through. It's a mystery thriller that got butchered from start to finish in many areas. Storywise, this movie is all over the place. It's like someone took the structure of Zodiac or Seven and literally cut it into pieces (which causes it to be convoluted and dumb if that makes sense). It feels like there were chunks of the movie was missing because of the messy editing. Even the acting was stilted and downright laughable at times. Michael Fassbender, Rebecca Ferguson, and even J. K. Simmons with his fake accent couldn't save this. And for some reason Val Kilmer was in it and I really couldn't tell if he had his lines dubbed over. If I have any positives, it would be the cinematography. Some of the shots of Norway looked incredible even if some of them were edited to hell. Overall, it's a mess of a film. Don't be fooled by the trailer, it's the complete opposite of a David Fincher type movie.

3/10

 

[TheVileOne]

Why does everyone in Norway speak with a British accent?

Im just excited to see Val Kilmer back on the big screen in something relevant.

I was too at first, then I watched the movie. I'm not sure Val Kilmer has completely recovered yet. It was an awkward performance, and his voice was badly over-dubbed. I understand why it was dubbed. But it just seemed like Kilmer was not doing well while filming this role.

 

[Luigi]

Supposedly Val Kilmer wasn't available for re-shoots which led to the terrible dubbing.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

Cinemascore D.