The STUPIDEST mutant power ever: SPOILERS

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One of my biggest problems with this film was the source of "The Cure." A mutant who can "deactivate" or "neutralize" a specific gene (let alone one as prominent as the X gene)?
Give me a break.
I can suspend my disbelief for much of the movie. I understand that it isn't possible for these people to have powers in the first place, but I am unwilling to believe that a mutant could change the genetic structure of any creature it comes in contact with instantaneously!
In order for the change we saw in Beast to occur, the mutant/cure would have to
1) remove or neutralize the X gene
2) replace the X gene or change the way it works
3) cause all cells created with the genetic code containing the X gene to die
4) create entirely new cells with neutralized or missing X genes to replace the old
5) regrow all hair and fingernails without the X gene
6) do 1 through 5 instantaneously
7) and do so without the body of the host rejecting the new cells as cancerous of flawed.

It's not just unrealistic, it's ridiculous. It is STUPID.
 
I think you missed the part of the movie where a man moved a 150 ton bridge with his mind. :p

-TNC
 
While I grant you the Beast incident wasn't entirely accurate, Leech is an actual comic book character. His power is to negate the mutant powers of those within a certain radius of him. So, the character is genuine, even if the way they handled him was off.

Same could be said for Mastermind, though.
 
TNC9852002 said:
I think you missed the part of the movie where a man moved a 150 ton bridge with his mind. :p

-TNC

He pointed too. :)
 
TNC9852002 said:
I think you missed the part of the movie where a man moved a 150 ton bridge with his mind. :p

-TNC

oh god.. now the bridge..

Juggernaut, says something about not swimming or how to get there and then magneto brings the bridge there.... umm from a structural engineer POV, moving the bridge from its support like that, it would've collapsed, every civil and mechanical engineer and architect watching the movie must've been shaking their heads in disbelief.

its a called a stupid boat ! use it ! lol or atleast get a big flat piece of metal and have magneto float there
 
I think all logic has to be suspended in comic book land.......
 
Victor Creed said:
He pointed too. :)
Did you even read my post? I said I realize it's all unrealistic, but the character Leach, and anything it's based on is ridiculous. It makes no sense whatsoever, no matter if it is genuine.
It's poorly written and poorly executed, not to mention COMPLETELY unbelievable in any sense. I don't think an audience (let alone a mainstream audience) should be expected to swallow a pill like this, no matter the level to which they suspend their disbelief. It's nonsense and it's a poor plot point to base a movie around. The mutant is unnecessary. He does not add to the plot in any way.
 
Live_Wire said:
While I grant you the Beast incident wasn't entirely accurate, Leech is an actual comic book character. His power is to negate the mutant powers of those within a certain radius of him. So, the character is genuine, even if the way they handled him was off.

Same could be said for Mastermind, though.


Exactly, although to say that The Beast Hair is a negative are totally off. I absolutely adore what they did with the beast.

Heck there was even a guy that came to the theater dressed up as The Beast.
 
Britboy said:
I think all logic has to be suspended in comic book land.......

but x1 n x2 created a world in which it mimicked real life as much as possible. hence no aliens with the phoenix saga, etc. but moving a bridge just to get people to the island.. come on.. x1 had liberty island, they took the freaking ferry..
 
We can't even talk about the logic behind Iceman icing up... :p

-TNC
 
But still......in X1 and X2 there are still a lot of things that happen that if I saw them happen down my street I'd be a little surprised!
 
First: they are spelled "CELLS"

Second: I don't understand why you think it is so stupid or unbelievable in contrast to the rest of the movie and idea. I mean for instance, if you are ok with the fact that mystique is able to manipulate her body and change form. And Logan is able to heal himself almost instanting which requires the regeneration of cells. Then why is it so hard to stomach the idea that leach can cure the mutant gene.




Bullsear said:
1) remove or neutralize the X gene
2) replace the X gene or change the way it works
3) cause all sells created with the genetic code containing the X gene to die
4) create entirely new sells with neutralized or missing X genes to replace the old
5) regrow all hair and fingernails without the X gene
6) do 1 through 5 instantaneously
7) and do so without the body of the host rejecting the new sells as cancerous of flawed.

It's not just unrealistic, it's ridiculous. It is STUPID.
 
Britboy said:
I think all logic has to be suspended in comic book land.......
That's not true. Even those who study the folklore of comics and the methodology of their creation will dissagree with you. I refer you first and foremost to Dr. James Kakalios' The Physics of Superheroes.
 
Thegame826 said:
First: they are spelled "CELLS"
Wow. That's embarassing. Thanks, I'll change it.

HighVoltage said:
This thread is stupid.
Wow, intelligent response. Please don't post if you're gonna show less intelligence than a 4 year old. (Can you tell that I'm a little bitter?)
 
Bullsear said:
One of my biggest problems with this film was the source of "The Cure." A mutant who can "deactivate" or "neutralize" a specific gene (let alone one as prominent as the X gene)?
Give me a break.

You`re not a X-men Fan? True?
 
Bullsear said:
That's not true. Even those who study the folklore of comics and the methodology of their creation will dissagree with you. I refer you first and foremost to Dr. James Kakalios' The Physics of Superheroes.

I agree, The Physics of Superheroes is really a great read.

and dont worry about spelling 'cells' wrong. It is very late and you even made me second guess on its spelling.
 
Bullsear said:
Completely untrue. Love X-men and read 2 X titles regularly.

So you hate an individual character from the comics, who happens to be in the movie? Everyone knew who he was to begin with here. Why is this an issue now, unless if you are not a true X fan. True fans know Leech and know what he can do. True fans gripe about flaws in characters from the comics in the comics section, yet this is a gripe about the same character, with spoilers? Im sorry, but I find it funny that you might even assume to call yourself an X fan.
 
cookiva said:
So you hate an individual character from the comics, who happens to be in the movie? Everyone knew who he was to begin with here. Why is this an issue now, unless if you are not a true X fan. True fans know Leech and know what he can do. True fans gripe about flaws in characters from the comics in the comics section, yet this is a gripe about the same character, with spoilers? Im sorry, but I find it funny that you might even assume to call yourself an X fan.
I don't keep up on movie info before I see a film. I feel it takes away from the experience. I like to be surprised. I had no clue he would be in the film.

True fans should question poor writing like this. If a true fan doesn't, who will? Are we to bow down to the likes of Chuck Austen, accepting his works as the embodiment of the stories we love? No.
As an X fan, I voice my dissent with ill-conceived plot points that hinder the ability of future writers and visionaries to created engaging and entertaining works.
 
Bullsear its seems you've watched the film and came out with this ridiculous notion because prehaps you weren't completely happy with it and felt the need to bash it in some way . But now people are arguing the point with you.....you are getting a little irate .

Go and have a little sleep on it , maybe watch the film again and read some of the Xmen comics with Leech in them you claim to have read before so you can justify his place in the film to yourself , come back and repost .
 
Britboy said:
Bullsear its seems you've watched the film and came out with this ridiculous notion because prehaps you weren't completely happy with it and felt the need to bash it in some way.
At this point an irate person would bash you for stating the obvious. This is a message board, after all.
That said, think I have sufficiently argued that the character's power level (and indeed, the fact mere fact of his existence) calls for a greaters suspension of disbelief than a mainstream audience should be expected to adopt.
I'm also a little angry at your presumption that because you dissagree with me my point is poorly thought out and the result of a lack of sleep and knowledge. But, since this is a message board, and people are supposed to post their grievances, I'm not too upset .
 
HighVoltage said:
You know a X-MEN Saga called Mutant Massacre?
Yeah, wasn't a terribly big fan of it, truthfully.

You know a X-MEN Saga called The Draco? How'd you like that one? I guess I should just accept whatever is written as being X-Men LAW. It's not as if continuity is fluid or changing or anything like that.
 
The comics are a very loose guideline for the films.....
 

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