The Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 60

[Drizzle]

Jump Scare George is my favorite role of his.

 

[Lily Adler]

Spoiled white and black children having these elaborate ass birthday parties and crying over luxury cars, Cribs with celebs showing off their rented houses (with Redman being the only real one), and then you had the trainwreck that was 16 & Pregnant to be the ratchet cherry on top.

Bring back MY MTV dammit.

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I believe it's still alive along with 90's/2000's Nickelodeon on PlutoTV

Modern MTV might as well change their name to Ridiculousness.

 

[Lily Adler]

Why is that old man on a date with that girl?

 

[Drizzle]

Yeah now MTV just plays Ridiculousness 24/7. It's a complete ghost town.

I don't think they even make original programming anymore.

I don't have cable anymore and I wager a lot of other people don't either so it sounds like they've resigned themselves to strictly reruns, kind of like how Comedy Central is except for The Daily Show and whenever South Park airs new episodes.

 

[Bayne]

Because it involves too much homework for everyone that isn't a hardcore fan. If it becomes too difficult to follow, casuals will check out.

People keep saying this all the time - and I have no doubt some of y'all feel that way or know casuals who feel that way - but that's not at all the signal that the general audience keeps sending Marvel.

Every time they make an actual multiverse story it's one of the biggest hits of the post-Endgame era. NWH. MoM. Loki. Deadpool 3.

Eternals and Thor and Ms. Marvel and She-hulk and Secret Invasion did nothing at all with the concept and Ant-man and the Marvels only just barely included it at the very end. If people are checked out *because* of the multiverse then they're making really weird decisions about what to actually watch and what not to.

 

[Kane52630]

I don't have cable anymore and I wager a lot of other people don't either so it sounds like they've resigned themselves to strictly reruns, kind of like how Comedy Central is except for The Daily Show and whenever South Park airs new episodes.

Yeah, I'd say streaming killed the linear cable TV business. I have Youtube TV and I do have to say I don't think I've watched a lot of the traditional cable channels aside from stuff like Comedy Central for The Daily Show and whatnot and even I don't think I've ever watched them live, it's usually DVR'd.

Most of the cable channels are basically operating on reruns and infomercials.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

With the advent of all these streaming services it’s really no need for cable anymore. I mean you get Paramount+ and you can literally watch Hey Arnold, True Life, Real World, Jersey Shore and Salute Your Shorts at your own leisure.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Kane52630]

The only thing keeping cable alive is live sports because they still haven't completely figured that out in the streaming world. But every year you're gonna hear about more and more sports packages going to Amazon or Netflix and whatnot.

Just look at WWE, Raw is gonna be streaming on Netflix next year.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

The only thing keeping cable alive is live sports because they still haven't completely figured that out in the streaming world. But every year you're gonna hear about more and more sports packages going to Amazon or Netflix and whatnot.

Just look at WWE, Raw is gonna be streaming on Netflix next year.

Netflix era is going to be Attitude 2.0.

They’re already starting.

 

[Kane52630]

Netflix era is going to be Attitude 2.0.

They’re already starting.

I just hope they get a cool intro when they do.

 

[Lily Adler]

I don't have cable anymore and I wager a lot of other people don't either so it sounds like they've resigned themselves to strictly reruns, kind of like how Comedy Central is except for The Daily Show and whenever South Park airs new episodes.

I have a dad and older siblings who have YouTube TV/DirecTV Stream due to sports and Comedy Central is mostly The Office reruns.

 

[BoredGuy]

The only thing keeping cable alive is live sports because they still haven't completely figured that out in the streaming world. But every year you're gonna hear about more and more sports packages going to Amazon or Netflix and whatnot.

Just look at WWE, Raw is gonna be streaming on Netflix next year.

Yeah Hockey has a bunch of stuff on Hulu and Prime, same with soccer I think (idk I don't watch that)
For football, most of the night games are one streamer or the other, and the day games I have a digital antenna to watch

 

[Drizzle]

The only thing keeping cable alive is live sports because they still haven't completely figured that out in the streaming world. But every year you're gonna hear about more and more sports packages going to Amazon or Netflix and whatnot.

Just look at WWE, Raw is gonna be streaming on Netflix next year.

Also cable news networks, for better or worse. You can get news on streaming too but most old folks don't know that.

I have a dad and older siblings who have YouTube TV/DirecTV Stream due to sports and Comedy Central is mostly The Office reruns.

Sounds about right, last time I watched Comedy Central it was blocks of either The Office or South Park reruns.

 

[Lily Adler]

Yeah Hockey has a bunch of stuff on Hulu and Prime, same with soccer I think (idk I don't watch that)
For football, most of the night games are one streamer or the other, and the day games I have a digital antenna to watch

I miss Locast. It was a streaming service that played local channels for $5 a month, but got shut down by the networks.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Netflix era is going to be Attitude 2.0.

They’re already starting.

Nah. Paul Levesque grew up an old school JCP/NWA fan. Very unlikely he goes back to Crash TV.

 

[kguillou]

Because it involves too much homework for everyone that isn't a hardcore fan. If it becomes too difficult to follow, casuals will check out.

I've always wondered what Multiverse of Madness was like for people who saw that movie but had no idea what Wandavision was. I mean that movie made close to a billion dollars so maybe it made no difference but i feel like a viewer who's last exposure to Wanda was Endgame and then watched MoM would have been confused AF.

 

[Drizzle]

I've always wondered what Multiverse of Madness was like for people who saw that movie but had no idea what Wandavision was. I mean that movie made close to a billion dollars so maybe it made no difference but i feel like a viewer who's last exposure to Wanda was Endgame and then watched MoM would have been confused AF.

I watched Multiverse of Madness with a friend of mine who hadn't seen WandaVision and he still enjoyed the movie anyway. WandaVision is important to Wanda's storyline in MoM but it's not as crucial as something like Civil War is for Infinity War.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

To be fair, Feige told us from the start at one of those comic cons that WandaVision ties directly into Multiverse and that was back when the MCU was on top of the world.

It’s still wild to me that it outgrossed Batman. That’s a FEAT.

 

[Iceman]

Marvel’s ambition was to create a seamless synergy between the tv series and the movies so that one could feed into the other. In a perfect scenario for example: Ms Marvel would be a hit series and people would fall in love with Kamala. Then they could be like “hey you loved Kamala? She’s starring in a movie with Captain Marvel next year! Then The Marvels becomes a hit, makes Kamala an even bigger star and then that goodwill follows her into a season 2 of her show with bigger ratings/subscribers etc.

This is a strategy that Hollywood has been trying to crack for decades and no one has been able to crack it, not even Marvel apparently.

After Wandavision and 1 episode of F&tWS I thought they were going to crack it. Downhill from there unfortunately.

 

[Iceman]

The only thing keeping cable alive is live sports because they still haven't completely figured that out in the streaming world. But every year you're gonna hear about more and more sports packages going to Amazon or Netflix and whatnot.

Just look at WWE, Raw is gonna be streaming on Netflix next year.

Yep, over here Premier League football has been flirting with streaming platforms too, and it’s gone well when they’ve shown it. They have a decent product (I didn’t really expect that ahead of time).

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Drizzle]

To be fair, Feige told us from the start at one of those comic cons that WandaVision ties directly into Multiverse and that was back when the MCU was on top of the world.

It’s still wild to me that it outgrossed Batman. That’s a FEAT.

It also helped that WandaVision came around during a time when people were starved for content because most theaters were still closed and new shows were few and far between during the pandemic. Even non-Marvel fans were checking it out just because it was something new to watch so I'd wager that a good number of people who went into Multiverse of Madness were caught up on what was happening with Wanda.

 

[Iceman]

I can’t imagine there’s a whole lot of GA all that interested in Disney+ aside from if they have kids to get extra value out of it. I know quite a few non-geeks who watched every MCU film till Endgame who haven’t watched a single show and don’t even have it on the radar relative to the best non CBM shows. Some want to watch Mandalorian.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

To this day, I still say if WB had the balls to let Halle be Selina Kyle and sprinkle some Batman connective tissue into it, it would’ve been a better movie.

Only that studio could fumble someone as talented and sexy as Halle when a character like Catwoman was tailor made for her.

 

[Lily Adler]

To this day, I still say if WB had the balls to let Halle be Selina Kyle and sprinkle some Batman connective tissue into it, it would’ve been a better movie.

Only that studio could fumble someone as talented and sexy as Halle when a character like Catwoman was tailor made for her.

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Remember when she was Jinx in Bond?