The Thread of Injustice

[terry78]

The super move finishers really make me miss arcades. People would be crowding around a machine watching **** like this.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

The super move finishers really make me miss arcades. People would be crowding around a machine watching **** like this.

Haha unless the 2 playing knew what they were doing. The supers still seem to be a waste of meter for most characters. But they are extremely stylish I'll give em that.

 

[Supa]

The thing that still makes me clench my teeth about this series is that Superman's and Batman's roles should really be reversed. But since Superman is the powerhouse he gets put in the position of ruthless dictator.

Whatever. Still a good game. 9.5/10.

Ed Boon really hates Superman huh?

Considering Batman's the one who is always secretly collecting information on other superheroes and analyzing them to learn how to defeat them, it's weird that we've never seen an elseworld where he's the tyrannical despot. There's honestly a lot of potential for super villain Batman, but no, Superman's always gotta be the bad guy.

 

[Havok83]

The super move finishers really make me miss arcades. People would be crowding around a machine watching **** like this.

Im finding them annoying as they go on for too long and slow down the action. I wish their was an option to cut down the animation

 

[terry78]

I feel they kinda fit as they cater to the comic book trope of Talking is a Free Action. Stuff like that happens in the books all the time but it's static from panel to panel.

 

[zenith16]

Considering Batman's the one who is always secretly collecting information on other superheroes and analyzing them to learn how to defeat them, it's weird that we've never seen an elseworld where he's the tyrannical despot. There's honestly a lot of potential for super villain Batman, but no, Superman's always gotta be the bad guy.

you mean except for the lego movie's that are direct to video's like batman beleaguered? where he actually admits and acts like that

 

[TX85]

Batman was the bad guy in BvS while Supes was the hero..kinda

 

[Gamma Goliath]

More like the victim lol

 

[zenith16]

More like the victim lol

oh he was a victime al right. so was that whole movie . lol. But there no more to be said there.

 

[TX85]

Darkseid is a beast. Playing as him in the multiverse

 

[idiot09]

Are we allowed to talk Injustice 2 storymode spoilers here?

Anycase I will spoiler tag this. I just finished Injustice 2 storymode, the video from IGN.

Spoiler

I am conflicted on the whole Batman's "No Killing the villain" vs Supermans "Somepeople need to be killed" approach.

Somethings I have thought-

-For some of the villains who cant be captured and subdued, like say Zod, Braniac or Doomsday. They have to be killed, they cant be put into a prison(not talking about phantom zone here). Whats the alternative? They will attack again.
-Batman's torture : Damian raised this point. Batman does not kill, but he is okay with torturing people to the point of brain damage? Whats the point then? just to stay on his high horse? What he does one might say is worse. Thats extremely hypocritical.
-Batman essentially robbed Superman off his powers and then sentenced him to the phantom zone. Considering the people that stay there, dude he ded. Hypocritical much Bruce?
-They take Superman's ideology to the extreme. You can believe some villains need to be killed, but you dont have to go full General Zod on Earth. Thats why I dont like Action Comic #775. They take the good argument of taking a life to save millions, and turn into a silly, strawman like "Oh I'll become evil if I kill one person" cliche. Its the common slippery slope fallacy. There's a middle path.

Anyway what do you guys think?

 

[TX85]

Are we allowed to talk Injustice 2 storymode spoilers here?

Anycase I will spoiler tag this. I just finished Injustice 2 storymode, the video from IGN.

Spoiler

I am conflicted on the whole Batman's "No Killing the villain" vs Supermans "Somepeople need to be killed" approach.

Somethings I have thought-

-For some of the villains who cant be captured and subdued, like say Zod, Braniac or Doomsday. They have to be killed, they cant be put into a prison(not talking about phantom zone here). Whats the alternative? They will attack again.
-Batman's torture : Damian raised this point. Batman does not kill, but he is okay with torturing people to the point of brain damage? Whats the point then? just to stay on his high horse? What he does one might say is worse. Thats extremely hypocritical.
-Batman essentially robbed Superman off his powers and then sentenced him to the phantom zone. Considering the people that stay there, dude he ded. Hypocritical much Bruce?
-They take Superman's ideology to the extreme. You can believe some villains need to be killed, but you dont have to go full General Zod on Earth. Thats why I dont like Action Comic #775. They take the good argument of taking a life to save millions, and turn into a silly, strawman like "Oh I'll become evil if I kill one person" cliche. Its the common slippery slope fallacy. There's a middle path.

Anyway what do you guys think?

Spoiler

At first I thought Batman should have let Supes kill Brainiac since he is such a massive threat to the world and the biggest besides Darkseid or maybe even more. But then Batman said Brainiac was needed alive to save all those people and Green Lantern said Superman couldn't be sure he could find a way and so I thought okay maybe Team Batman is right.

I hate Damian but he has a point. I respect that Bruce values life so much but maybe that code is fine for petty criminals, Villians like Joker and extremely powerful alien threats such as Brainiac and Darkseid..not so much.

Superman shouldn't have gone Zod/Emperor Clark but Bruce should have really understood the pov of Clark killing Joker and then wanting to kill Brainiac to avenge his homeworld . Batman doesn't have to like it or start overdoing it like in BvS but he needs to understand the exceptions.

I was fine with Batman sending Superman to the phantom zone but not powerless.

 

[idiot09]

Yeah I think we can both agree that both sides were "wrong", both took their ideals to an extreme, and were often hypocritical about it. A balance is required.

 

[X Knight]

is it possible through gear to give a character a different Super move?

I find Batman's "Batwing" Super a bit underwhelming.

 

[godisawesome]

The thing that still makes me clench my teeth about this series is that Superman's and Batman's roles should really be reversed. But since Superman is the powerhouse he gets put in the position of ruthless dictator.

Whatever. Still a good game. 9.5/10.

Ed Boon really hates Superman huh?

I was holding out some slim hope that Regime Superman would be freed by another alternate Batman who went a similar way. A fascist Batman really could work as an intimidating villain, someone on Doctor Doom's level but with a certain amount of creepy quiet. Especially since I think you could make his "start of darkness" contrast with Superman: instead of using one massive tragedy to shove Bruce over the edge like they did with Clark, just have Bruce break his rule one night, and prove that line in Under the Red Hood accurate that Bruce just can't stop, and slowly escalate in the shadows.

If you did Regime!Batman on his own world, you could have someone who exposes the weakness in Clark's argument to Clark himself on another world; just picture Regime! Supes visiting a world controlled by a fascist Batman and finding Lois being hunted- or killed, if you can't stop the fridge.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Darkseid tho. Someone wants to zone and trade projectiles: Omega Beams! Someone wants to rush you down and hit you with combo strings? Teleport and Omega Beams! Your opponent is being evasive and playing hit and run? Summon a Parademon, teleport, beat his ass, Omega Beams!!

Darkseid is too much fun.

By the way Supergirl is the most op character in the game... and I'm ok with that.

 

[Nathan]

Talking about the story, this Injustice reality is of course a different universe, where events play out differently and certain characters even have different personalities. Like Lex Luthor actually being a good guy and close friends with Superman. And since it's a different universe, events were probably supposed to play out the way they did. With Lois dying, and Superman turning into a tyrannical dictator.

But watching one specific cutscene made me wonder, could we actually already be dealing with some kind of "Flashpoint" scenario?

Spoiler

It's not even a subtle hint. When Flash fights Reverse Flash, Reverse Flash outright tells him that this timeline is all wrong. And he cannot return to his own time, because the Regime killed one of his ancestors, so now he's a living Paradox. Just like he became a Paradox, when Flash messed with the past and created Flashpoint. Though this time, it's obviously not Flash's fault.

Are there any time traveling villains that have a beef with Superman? Could that person, have leaked Superman's secret identity to the Joker, in the hopes that Joker would break him and Superman wouldn't be a threat in the future anymore? But instead of being broken, Superman would be driven to rule the world with an iron fist.

 

[TX85]

I didn't take it that way but maybe

 

[BlueLanternKal]

SAVAGE OLLIE

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One thing NRS got perfectly despite this being an Elseworld is Green Arrow's and Black Canary's back and forth. Kudos.

 

[The Shape]

I said this regarding the last Injustice game, but why couldn't they make more than one "Super" move for each character for Injustice 2? They are all awesome, but this does accelerate the "staleness" of the game since there's literally no variation in the Supers whatsoever and, as a player, you wind up knowing literally exactly what's going to happen in each match.

The Supers are meant to be the biggest and most overly cinematic/memorable moments within each fight. By including even just ONE additional Super per character, it would go a long way towards mixing things up a bit and and breaking up the eventual monotony of these games. As it stands now, we just see the same scene over and over again each time we either play as a certain character or against a certain character.

 

[Havok83]

are there no alternate costumes in this game? Or are gears the only way to change a person's look?

 

[Nathan]

I said this regarding the last Injustice game, but why couldn't they make more than one "Super" move for each character for Injustice 2? They are all awesome, but this does accelerate the "staleness" of the game since there's literally no variation in the Supers whatsoever and, as a player, you wind up knowing literally exactly what's going to happen in each match.

The Supers are meant to be the biggest and most overly cinematic/memorable moments within each fight. By including even just ONE additional Super per character, it would go a long way towards mixing things up a bit and and breaking up the eventual monotony of these games. As it stands now, we just see the same scene over and over again each time we either play as a certain character or against a certain character.

More Supers and maybe something similar to MKX's Brutalities. I'd love to have tons of variations to finish a match.

 

[The Shape]

There are alternate costumes and skins for certain characters.

 

[Nathan]

What kind of alternate costumes are there? I've only seen the premiere skins so far.

 

[zenith16]

are there no alternate costumes in this game? Or are gears the only way to change a person's look?

they said the gear the only way to do that . You earn them and you make them look how ever you want to with the special ability effect you get from the earned ones.

The bought gear is cosmetic only and that's changeable too.