The Trump Thread!!!

[Leafar the Lost]

I really didn't expect Donald Trump to be #1 in the GOP polls, but then I guess I underestimated his effect. He speaks directly to their base very effectively. His years on TV and giving speeches have given him the ability to communicate well. He should do very well in the debates.

The problem is that he is an idiot and his ideas are wrong. The cost of securing the border between Mexico and America would cost many billions. Since he is a Republican, he is unwilling to raise taxes to do it, so where will the money come from? Also, it is illegal immigrants who work in the farms to give us cheap food, and also to build his golf courses.

As a Democrat, Trump is a gift that keeps on giving. He's taking all of the attention away from the other GOP candidates, and also away from Hillary. The Republicans could be hammering away at Hillary for her missing emails, but they are too preoccupied by Trump. I pray he doesn't talk himself out of getting nominated, because some of his statements are crazy. However, it doesn't seem to matter to the base of the GOP...

 

[SV Fan]

The problem is that he is an idiot and his ideas are wrong.

Trump isn't an idiot, he just knows how to pander to idiots

 

[Leafar the Lost]

Trump isn't an idiot, he just knows how to pander to idiots

I really think he's an idiot.

 

[Legendver2]

Trump is just being Trump, saying all types of things without any substance. So he wants to build a border down south, but have Mexico pay for it? Good luck with that. I can't figure out why he's so popular with statements like that. I mean any idiot should figure out how unrealistic ALL his statements are. But I guess that's who he's pandering to.

Another thing is he's turning this election into a gossip rag. Almost every interview he gives, half the time he states unrealistic things without any backing, and the other half he uses to talk smack against other candidates. How crass is that. And he doesn't even use sophisticated language. Other's would be more diplomatic saying "I'm disappointed in his/her actions etc etc", but he straight up calls other candidates losers. I don't know how people can think he can become president and not offend any other country with his unfiltered speak.

 

[SV Fan]

I can't figure out why he's so popular with statements like that. I mean any idiot should figure out how unrealistic ALL his statements are. But I guess that's who he's pandering to.

I think it's just a case they like his bluntness and how he isn't trying to use wording that tries to pander to the base but tries not to be offensive to everybody else.

Simple fact though is the GOP can blame themselves for the Trump monster, they were the one who let him blab his mouth years ago about Obama's birth certificate without telling him to zip it now it's coming back to bite them in the butt when he is basically using the Republican Primary as a publicity stunt and he will drag everybody on stage down to his level.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I really think Trump is a terrible thing for the Republican Party. His timing couldn't be worse. Republicans have a Latino problem which they need to address. I think they could have still done that, especially with a moderate like Jeb Bush, who actually speaks Spanish.

But Trump has brought out the worst in this party. When Mexicans see Trump calling them criminals and rapists, and the other Republicans mumble, they know where they stand.

Unless Jeb Bush really goes to town on Trump, this is going to really hurt them come 2016. Especially if he keeps up this nativist bent, which he has shown no signs of stopping.

 

[NYR94]

Trump is a clown, plain and simple. But I like what he's doing. He's making others around him and in his party uncomfortable and is forcing them to engage him and his ideas--if nothing else, this should shed some of the "politics as usual" rhetoric and force those running to say something original rather than what some focus group deemed important that week. Let him talk; he loves hearing himself speak.

 

[Taarna]

Trump is a clown, plain and simple. But I like what he's doing. He's making others around him and in his party uncomfortable and is forcing them to engage him and his ideas--if nothing else, this should shed some of the "politics as usual" rhetoric and force those running to say something original rather than what some focus group deemed important that week. Let him talk; he loves hearing himself speak.

Trump is a unicorn in politics. He is very famous, can speak his mind, and funds his own campaign. No company can buy his votes or promises. He’s worth 8 billion dollars. Donald also has a spine and stands for something in a day of flip-flops by both sides.

Trump needs a better speechwriter and campaign manager who can tell him no. Trump's ego is his greatest enemy.

Its not what you say, its how you say it!

If Trump simply said the illegals are costing the USA $100 billion a year ( I don’t know the real number, but he can use a moderate minded source ) and said he’d rather give the money back to the USA citizens and States going broke because of it, which Democrat in their right mind would argue?

If Trump factually pointed out how unfair the trade were internationally speaking, which Democrat would disagree?

If Trump said we can build a wall, and dig a ditch with one of those giant tunnel boaring machines he's right. If he says this would put people to work, securing the boarder from terrorism, drugs, and illegals who do not go through a background check, which Democrat would disagree with him?

Check below to what Saudi Arabia is doing:

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/01/233628-saudi-arabia-anti-isis-wall/

What if Trump can win the state of New York? Big time game changer. NY loves their own...

But Donald just makes it sound nasty and you can’t do that without offending an ethic group.

Having said that I think if he can change the tone of his message, he could be the next President as the election is going to come down to who brings out their base the best in 2016…I think. If Trump can win 65% or more of the white vote, he’ll win the White House. Republicans aren't going to get the Latino vote anyway, and Latino's really do not vote in numbers.

 

[BossNCM]

Trump is a unicorn in politics. He is very famous, can speak his mind, and funds his own campaign. No company can buy his votes or promises. He’s worth 8 billion dollars.

I agree. I may not be a Trump supporter but he exhibts what i would like out of all presidential candidates. That being blunt honesty about their views. Yes it could be tweaked but sometimes offensive is a way to get the subject talked about.

 

[Taarna]

I agree. I may not be a Trump supporter but he exhibts what i would like out of all presidential candidates. That being blunt honesty about their views. Yes it could be tweaked but sometimes offensive is a way to get the subject talked about.

This much is clear. Trump is not a clown. A clown could not quickly pass name senators and governors this quickly. He's a political heavyweight, but can he be the #1 man?

Very hard to tell in such as crowded field.

We’ll see if he can keep polling high. Three months on politics can seem like a year. By September if Trump is #1 or #2, he’s got a real shot.

 

[Smashlilman]

I really didn't expect Donald Trump to be #1 in the GOP polls, but then I guess I underestimated his effect. He speaks directly to their base very effectively. His years on TV and giving speeches have given him the ability to communicate well. He should do very well in the debates.

The problem is that he is an idiot and his ideas are wrong. The cost of securing the border between Mexico and America would cost many billions. Since he is a Republican, he is unwilling to raise taxes to do it, so where will the money come from? Also, it is illegal immigrants who work in the farms to give us cheap food, and also to build his golf courses.

As a Democrat, Trump is a gift that keeps on giving. He's taking all of the attention away from the other GOP candidates, and also away from Hillary. The Republicans could be hammering away at Hillary for her missing emails, but they are too preoccupied by Trump. I pray he doesn't talk himself out of getting nominated, because some of his statements are crazy. However, it doesn't seem to matter to the base of the GOP...

The sad thing for Republicans is that when the 3% candidates start dropping out most of their margins will go to Trump instead of Bush. He's going to dominate the primaries.

 

[Mechanix]

I agree. I may not be a Trump supporter but he exhibts what i would like out of all presidential candidates. That being blunt honesty about their views. Yes it could be tweaked but sometimes offensive is a way to get the subject talked about.

He's a hypocrite. He spews hatred for illegal Mexican immigrants and then "hires" them to build his towers.

Well, to be fair, he hired a contractor who subcontracted the work out. But I doubt a guy like Trump would want to pay more because the contractors were American and not illegal (and therefore cheaper).

He should have checked his own ***** out before making those statements. It's like a politician who preaches about the immorality of prostitution and then hires a hooker for the weekend.

 

[Leafar the Lost]

Yes, the Republican Party created a monster in Trump. Six years of repeated attacks on Obama. Six years of questioning his citizenship and religion. Six years of saying he is the worse president of all time. Now you have Trump. The GOP went to the far right to energize their base to win elections. It worked, as they control Congress. However, they can't gerrymander the whole country. They can't win the Presidency again when 70% of Americans do not agree with them. I love what Trump is doing, because he is exposing the Republican Party for it really is.

 

[Schlosser85]

He's a hypocrite. He spews hatred for illegal Mexican immigrants and then "hires" them to build his towers.

Well, to be fair, he hired a contractor who subcontracted the work out. But I doubt a guy like Trump would want to pay more because the contractors were American and not illegal (and therefore cheaper).

He should have checked his own ***** out before making those statements. It's like a politician who preaches about the immorality of prostitution and then hires a hooker for the weekend.

Or someone who rails about defending the sanctity of marriage while he's been married 3 times, including leaving his first wife for his mistress who became his second wife.

 

[batdude]

Well, I don't think you can win after offending an entire minority, but Trump certainly livened up the presidential race that's for sure. Wonder who his running mate is going to be

 

[Schlosser85]

Marcus Bachmann. He could give Donald a fabulous makeover.

 

[Leafar the Lost]

If a person has extreme Conservatism, it removes his/her ability to think clearly and rationally.

 

[Marvolo]

I think it's just a case they like his bluntness and how he isn't trying to use wording that tries to pander to the base but tries not to be offensive to everybody else

Simple fact though is the GOP can blame themselves for the Trump monster, they were the one who let him blab his mouth years ago about Obama's birth certificate without telling him to zip it now it's coming back to bite them in the butt when he is basically using the Republican Primary as a publicity stunt and he will drag everybody on stage down to his level.

My dad likes Trump because of this. Dad sees Trump as someone who is finally telling the truth and cutting through the political BS. The problem is everything Trump spews from that open sewer drain that he calls a mouth is nothing but lies, misinformation, and just ignorant racist ****. Now if only I could get my dad to realize this. Unfortunately however I think my dad is going to vote for Trump in the primaries.

My mom on the other hand told him point blank that it would be a cold day in hell before she would vote for Trump.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

My dad likes Trump because of this. Dad sees Trump as someone who is finally telling the truth and cutting through the political BS. The problem is everything Trump spews from that open sewer drain that he calls a mouth is nothing but lies, misinformation, and just ignorant racist ****. Now if only I could get my dad to realize this. Unfortunately however I think my dad is going to vote for Trump in the primaries.

My mom on the other hand told him point blank that it would be a cold day in hell before she would vote for Trump.

Trump definitely seems to be cool with the conservative old school folk. It ****in irritates me how his campaign is basically him talking himself up and everybody else down. I know for a fact that many Mexicans are pissed (as a Mexican American living in a border town) about his comments and their hypocritical nature.

Spoiler

And then he plays victim when he loses his deals. Is that just a Donald thing? Sounds a lot like the other Donald, Sterling.

 

[TheBat812]

I kind of hope trump wins the republican primaries. That would be a cake walk for whoever wins the democratic primary (fingers crossed it's bernie sanders!!!).

Of course I don't see trump getting trough any debates. The guy knows how to make money but he's an idiot.

 

[SV Fan]

I kind of hope trump wins the republican primaries.

I don't think he has a chance. I think at most he gets 25% support which might help him win when there is 20 guys but when we down to final 3-4 25% gets him nowhere

All that being said I will enjoy him bringing down all the people he is up against in the meantime

 

[Evelisse]

It would be like if Biff Tannen were elected

 

[KevanG]

Trump would take a look at the debt once he's in office then sell Hawaii and Alaska to pay for it.

 

[Taarna]

I kind of hope trump wins the republican primaries. That would be a cake walk for whoever wins the democratic primary (fingers crossed it's bernie sanders!!!).

Of course I don't see trump getting trough any debates. The guy knows how to make money but he's an idiot.

Bat812,

Winning a debate has to do with standing out, underscoring your points / communicating them well, and not being exposed or put in a comprised position. Other things such as height, poise, and looks factor in as well.

Trump stands out, has a hammer for his points, speaks well enough, and because he isn't politician, can't be called out on a bad political record. Did I mention Trump has a lot of experience being on television and the radio?


I think he can do well in the debate; he only needs to control his tone, and use softer language at time.

 

[Taarna]

Trump definitely seems to be cool with the conservative old school folk. It ****in irritates me how his campaign is basically him talking himself up and everybody else down. I know for a fact that many Mexicans are pissed (as a Mexican American living in a border town) about his comments and their hypocritical nature.

Spoiler

And then he plays victim when he loses his deals. Is that just a Donald thing? Sounds a lot like the other Donald, Sterling.

While I agree Trump's tone on the topic was bad, was his message?

Are you for illegal immigration from any area of the world, arriving in the USA, and then costing the nation an estimated 100 billion dollars a year?

Suppose you live in Texas or New Mexico.

"In 2013, illegal immigration cost Texas taxpayers about $12.1 billion annually. That amounts to more than $1,197 for every Texas household headed by a native-born or naturalized U.S. citizen. The taxes paid by illegal aliens — estimated at $1.27 billion per year — do not come close to paying for those outlays, but we include an estimate of revenue from sales taxes, property taxes, alcohol taxes, and cigarette taxes."

"New Mexicans bear a fiscal burden of about $717 million per year in outlays due to an estimated 100,000 illegal alien residents and their U.S.-born children. Those outlays are in large part due to the education of an estimated 6,700 illegal alien students and an additional 30,170 U.S.-born children of illegal aliens. Their K-12 cost is about $438 million, and an additional $54 million is spent on their separate English instruction. Other costs relate to medical services, policing, courts and incarceration as well as some welfare programs for the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens. That fiscal burden has been growing as the size of the illegal alien population has grown. The annual outlay amounts to about $1,000 per household headed by a U.S. citizen."

>>>Wouldn't the money be better spent on USA citizens? What do you think? I think so.

Trump said nothing about legal immigration, where there is a process and
bad apples can be denied entrance.