The Amazing Spider-Man The Web Fluid: Stolen, or bought? Oscorp, or not?

[roach]

I am going off what evidence we were shown.
Is there a scene with Peter experimenting with the web cable and adding chemicals to it?
No so that means the webbing is the spider cable without Peter's alterations.
If he did make an alteration why didn't they show it.
They showed him making his suit, adding the lens, sewing
There were three scenes in the montage showing the web shooters:
The diagram, Peter shooting his face and Peter shooting the strand.
any one of theses scenes could have been replaced with a scene of him altering the webbing.
This leads me to believe that Peter was not being truthful with the car thief. Is it a theory? Yeah but a theory based on what we saw.

 

[S. Grundy]

Also, he lied about the algorithm to Conners, saying he came up with it when it was his father.

 

[Jexx]

My theory is based on what we saw too.. in fact, based on the same exact things you stated.

Also, they never showed him sewing the suit, they only really showed him popping the lenses in and painting on the logo.

 

[Jexx]

Also, he lied about the algorithm to Conners, saying he came up with it when it was his father.

That's not even related to this topic.

 

[roach]

That's not even related to this topic.

actually it goes towards the credibility of the witness as it shows a trend of not telling the truth in this movie.

 

[Jexx]

First of all, the formula was top secret and could of possibly gotten him killed, second of all, before he lied then, he paused, showing he was thinking about it.

He didn't pause when talking to the car thief.

And I'm the only one pulling 'mental gymnastics'?

 

[roach]

other than the line show me other evidence that he made the webbing?

 

[Jexx]

The design of the webshooter..

What other evidence is there to support that he didn't, beyond us not seeing him experimenting with chemicals?

We both know that he ordered Bio-Cable. My theory isn't that he made the bio-cable, just that he added a chemical to make it stickier and loosen the strands. We didn't see him experiment with cables, but he does say he made the webbing himself (with no indication of lying about it).

Seriously, I think that both theories are valid and possible, I just think this one is more likely.

 

[pickleweed]

I am going off what evidence we were shown.
Is there a scene with Peter experimenting with the web cable and adding chemicals to it?
No so that means the webbing is the spider cable without Peter's alterations.
If he did make an alteration why didn't they show it.
They showed him making his suit, adding the lens, sewing
There were three scenes in the montage showing the web shooters:
The diagram, Peter shooting his face and Peter shooting the strand.
any one of theses scenes could have been replaced with a scene of him altering the webbing.
This leads me to believe that Peter was not being truthful with the car thief. Is it a theory? Yeah but a theory based on what we saw.

Is there a scene with Peter experimenting with the web cable and adding chemicals to it?

no

No so that means the webbing is the spider cable without Peter's alterations.

thats not what that means. thats a false conclusion.

If he did make an alteration why didn't they show it.

same reason they didnt show what happened to ratha. there were numerous last minute cuts, either for pacing, running length, or subplot conflicts.

They showed him making his suit, adding the lens, sewing

ok

There were three scenes in the montage showing the web shooters:

ok.

The diagram, Peter shooting his face and Peter shooting the strand.

uh huh

any one of theses scenes could have been replaced with a scene of him altering the webbing.

couldve been, sure.

This leads me to believe that Peter was not being truthful with the car thief. Is it a theory? Yeah but a theory based on what we saw.

and thats fine that you want to believe that. but there is nothing directly leading to THAT conclusion shown in the film. and thats the point. it goes both ways in the realm of filling holes. there is seemingly a conflict, and neither you nor jexx are going to win this because there is no evidence to either theory. yet you try and discredit one over the other.

 

[Jexx]

Actually, I'm just defending my theory, not really trying to discredit his.

I think his theory is just as valid as mine, it's just that it looks like I'm trying to discredit his because we essentially have the same exact evidence, we just view it in different ways.

 

[pickleweed]

actually it goes towards the credibility of the witness as it shows a trend of not telling the truth in this movie.

he completes the formula. and, again, there was a much larger scene of him decoding the problem with conners. this is a matter of last minute switches honestly.

 

[Nathan]

I'm guess I'm ok with the fact he gets it from Oscorp. Apparently that stuff gets made in bulk and can be acquired by anyone. But he came up with the Web-shooters, to utilize the webbing in various ways. He may not have invented the webbing, but he's still portrayed way smarter than Peter in the Raimi Movies ever was.

 

[Jexx]

I still think that the web shooter design is solid evidence that it adds more than one substance to what I presume would be the webbing mixture.

 

[S. Grundy]

First of all, the formula was top secret and could of possibly gotten him killed, second of all, before he lied then, he paused, showing he was thinking about it.

He didn't pause when talking to the car thief.

And I'm the only one pulling 'mental gymnastics'?

But there's no difference in saying he found his father's old papers, because he's still giving Conners the info.

 

[Spider-Dude23]

Is there a scene with Peter experimenting with the web cable and adding chemicals to it?

no

No so that means the webbing is the spider cable without Peter's alterations.

thats not what that means. thats a false conclusion.

If he did make an alteration why didn't they show it.

same reason they didnt show what happened to ratha. there were numerous last minute cuts, either for pacing, running length, or subplot conflicts.

They showed him making his suit, adding the lens, sewing

ok

There were three scenes in the montage showing the web shooters:

ok.

The diagram, Peter shooting his face and Peter shooting the strand.

uh huh

any one of theses scenes could have been replaced with a scene of him altering the webbing.

couldve been, sure.

This leads me to believe that Peter was not being truthful with the car thief. Is it a theory? Yeah but a theory based on what we saw.

and thats fine that you want to believe that. but there is nothing directly leading to THAT conclusion shown in the film. and thats the point. it goes both ways in the realm of filling holes. there is seemingly a conflict, and neither you nor jexx are going to win this because there is no evidence to either theory. yet you try and discredit one over the other.

We never see Peter making his spider-man costume in raimis movies, yet he says to the guy in the lift in s-m2 that he made it himself but there is NO evidence that he did. For all we know he could've bought it off eBay. But we still believed that he made it, because he said it.

 

[roach]

We never see Peter making his spider-man costume in raimis movies, yet he says to the guy in the lift in s-m2 that he made it himself but there is NO evidence that he did. For all we know he could've bought it off eBay. But we still believed that he made it, because he said it.

if there was a scene where he opens a shipping box and pulls the suit out I would agree with your comparison.

although him looking as a suit design he made and then seeing him swinging around in the suit does led to the credibility that he made it...nothing in the movie contradicts his statement

 

[Spider-Dude23]

if there was a scene where he opens a shipping box and pulls the suit out I would agree with your comparison.

although him looking as a suit design he made and then seeing him swinging around in the suit does led to the credibility that he made it...nothing in the movie contradicts his statement

Just because he drew out the design doesn't mean he made it himself. There was no scene showing him making his costume. He could've brought his design into a costume maker and they could've made it for him for all we know.

 

[roach]

Just because he drew out the design doesn't mean he made it himself. There was no scene showing him making his costume. He could've brought his design into a costume maker and they could've made it for him for all we know.

true
however is there anything in the movies to contradict that he made it

 

[Nathan]

I don't understand why this seems to be so complicated.

1. Webbing acquired from Oscorp. Made combat usable through web-shooters.
2. Father's Formula. Lied about coming up with it, because he wants to keep the entire Folder a secret, but thinks helping Connor's is the right thing to do.

 

[roach]

I don't understand why this seems to be so complicated.

1. Webbing acquired from Oscorp. Made combat usable through web-shooters.
2. Father's Formula. Lied about coming up with it, because he wants to keep the entire Folder a secret, but thinks helping Connor's is the right thing to do.

because people are injecting conjecture into the situation

 

[Spider-Dude23]

I'm not saying that Peter made the webbing, nor am I saying he didnt. Just saying that both are possibilities. It's not definite that he didn't tamper with the webbing. But as far as I'm concerned, he got the webbing from oscorp. And I've no problem with that.

 

[MarvelFan1]

I found a website that actually sells the biocable: http://biothread.webstarts.com/ It's $900 a bottle(which I think is a rip off). Anyway, I think Peter made the webbing from scratch. I think he used Richard parker's notes, and used it to make them. Like in the ultimate spider man comics, richard was working on a molecular adhesive, aka, webbing. I think he uses his fathers notes on the biocable, the only modifications he made was making them into pellets and adding a chemical to loosen the fibers to shoot a mist. If I'm wrong, it was probably given to him as a gift from dr. Connors for helping him with lizard regeneration formula.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Um ...

 

[melvintwj]

Some say that it's not possible for Peter to create the webs because they are spun by the genetically altered spiders.. I beg to differ because there must be a way to synthesize it, no?

Man-made-leather-and-natural-leather kinda logic?

 

[chaseter]

At the end of the day, it's just a sloppy plot hole and not a thought provoking device meant for fans to ponder on.