The Wrestling Thread Can Wrestle MICHAEL COLE If It Wants To!! - Part 106

[Dr. Evil]

Punk being mistreated would have been: him losing the WWE Title to the Rock and then being left off the WM 29 card followed by him losing Money in the Bank because the WWE didn't like him and had no plans for him at Summerslam.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Update on the backstage heat on The Shield.

We reported yesterday that certain members of The Shield have backstage heat. Today we learn through Richard Gray of WrestlingNewsWorld.com, that the member who is said to have the heat is Roman Reigns.


According to the report Reigns rubbed Randy Orton the wrong way at a WWE live event. During the match, Orton had a wrongly timed move during the match that caused Reigns to botch a spot that he wasn’t expecting. Following the match, Reigns reportedly criticized Orton’s “sloppy work ethic” in front of the entire locker room.

WWE officials took the view that Reigns was very disrespectful.

And people wonder why I don't like Orton. Two words: Mr. Kennedy.

 

[chamber-music]

This duo is going to be gold going forward.

They look like they have just been told off by their parents.

 

[strikezone89]

Update on the backstage heat on The Shield.


And people wonder why I don't like Orton. Two words: Mr. Kennedy.

I don't agree with Ortons politics at all times but if I was a veteran and made a small mistake, to go in the locker room and be harassed and sassed about my mess up, especially from a rookie. I would be pissed and feel disrespected as well.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I laugh when people on other message boards say CM Punk has been mistreated by WWE. I am thinking "they can't be that stupid can they?" While I don't think losing the WWE Title to the Rock was the way to go, I would not call facing the Undertaker and losing to him at Wrestlemania 29, and then losing the Money in the Bank match because he has a bigger match upcoming at Summerslam against Brock Lesnar and then rumored to win the 2014 Royal Rumble and facing John Cena at Wrestlemania 30 mistreatment.

All following one of the longest WWE Championship reigns of all time.

So, I was looking at some older WWE videos for something else entirely, and came upon these.

And it makes me sad, cuz as good as some of the talent is these days, we just don't get promos or characters or moments like this anymore :

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[bullets]

I laugh when people on other message boards say CM Punk has been mistreated by WWE. I am thinking "they can't be that stupid can they?" While I don't think losing the WWE Title to the Rock was the way to go, I would not call facing the Undertaker and losing to him at Wrestlemania 29, and then losing the Money in the Bank match because he has a bigger match upcoming at Summerslam against Brock Lesnar and then rumored to win the 2014 Royal Rumble and facing John Cena at Wrestlemania 30 mistreatment.

They've been really good to Punk over the last year from a financial standpoint. There's not much to complain about. The loss to Rock could of been handled better , but so could the Cena redemption storyline. Punk and Undertaker stole the show at Wrestlemania. They didn't rush Punk back after his injury and he had a nice comeback which includes are good storyline and headline match at Summerslam. I'm more excited about Summerslam than I was for Wrestlemania 29. So Punk is doing well considering Cena is still the spotlight of the company. However Cena can't be that guy forever so Wrestlemania 30 could be very exciting.

 

[Lobo]

Update on the backstage heat on The Shield.


And people wonder why I don't like Orton. Two words: Mr. Kennedy.

Seeing as I hated Kennedy, and thought he sucked a big hairy one, I'm glad Randy ruined him. Also if I'm not mistaken, others complained about Ken being a sloppy worker, and Randy wasn't the only one he injured. If anything I was upset at Randy for having Kofi sent back to obscurity.


And while I know it's not a popular opinion, one of of my favorite things about Raw last might was no Curtis Axel. Yeah he has Heyman and they put the strap on him, but I get nothing form him. I find him a good in ring worker but that's it. No charisma, and comes off like an entitled *****e who is nowhere as good as he thinks he is. Nothing stands out for me, not his look, his in ring style, mothing I find him rather generic. Sorry McSillyputty, the only thing memorable about you is your manager. I'd rather see Fandango with the IC title

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Seeing as I hated Kennedy, and thought he sucked a big hairy one, I'm glad Randy ruined him. Also if I'm not mistaken, others complained about Ken being a sloppy worker, and Randy wasn't the only one he injured. If anything I was upset at Randy for having Kofi sent back to obscurity.


And while I know it's not a popular opinion, one of of my favorite things about Raw last might was no Curtis Axel. Yeah he has Heyman and they put the strap on him, but I get nothing form him. I find him a good in ring worker but that's it. No charisma, and comes off like an entitled *****e who is nowhere as good as he thinks he is. Sorry McSillyputty, the only thing memorable about you is your manager. I'd rather see Fandango with the IC title

Agreed with the Curtis Axel point.

A guy who sucks but gets a push and a good manager still sucks.

This is why I continue to argue that it's not booking who makes the guy, it's the guy who makes the guy and warrants the booking.

Curtis Axel is a yawn factory.

On your first part, Randy Orton burying Kofi back to obscurity might be the best thing he's ever done. Talk about another bore.

 

[Lobo]

I'd say it's both because when you get someoe who is good, and the booking helps him along, you have the making of a new star.

I'd be fine with Axel as part of a tag team.

Nell, about Kofi disagree, but lol

 

[sweetre15]

One thing that I'm worried about regarding Bryan/Cena at Summerslam is that McMahon might convince HHH to use this precious device here:

and stifle Bryan's push by making him win clean just for Orton to cash in and take the belt.

Anyone else worried about that?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

That's probably going to happen either way. It'll set up a Orton/Bryan program.

 

[Lobo]

A little. I'm more worried about Cena reversing the yes lock and making the submission master, Bryan tap out to his stf.

 

[sweetre15]

A little. I'm more worried about Cena reversing the yes lock and making the submission master, Bryan tap out to his stf.

Sadly this sounds like the most likely option at the moment unless someone convinces Vince to do the right thing and let Bryan come out victorious at either Summerslam or Night of Champions.

 

[Van Petrol]

This duo is going to be gold going forward.

I concur!

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I'd say it's both because when you get someoe who is good, and the booking helps him along, you have the making of a new star.

I'd be fine with Axel as part of a tag team.

Nell, about Kofi disagree, but lol

It's both in the sense that if a guy proves that he's worth it, at some point you have to pull the trigger and give him belts and big time matches and angles, otherwise you're just wasting opportunity.

But Curtis Axel is just one of many examples that booking is not going to get a guy over if he sucks, and guys like CM Punk, Ziggler, and Bryan prove the opposite, that if a guy is over, you can't job him out enough, he's going to remain over.

I believe that the star proves that he deserves wins and accomplishments, not that wins and accomplishments make a guy a star.

 

[TX85]

New Info:
-Strike Animations are now faster. Strikes are also harder to reverse but cause less damage than a normal move would

-Reversal System has been refined. "In the past games in the WWE series you would reverse a move into another reversal, it felt stiff and sometimes not as much fun. That old pacing has been changed to when you do a reversal, it's straight into a move. It looks and feels so much better than the old system and gives reversals a reward for pulling it off.

-Comebacks have been changed. "where last year they were a set of signature moves for a wrestler, this year they tie in the actual signature and finisher of the wrestler performing the comeback move. This new dynamic adds to the comeback series of moves."

-Catapult Finishers have been added this year. which are similar to the catch finishers of last year (which still also remain in the game) but now you can do them on offensive side instead of the defensive side.

-OMG Moves have been updated. 7 New OMG Moments have been added. Those include Ryback Shellshocking 2 Opponents, John Cena AA'ing 2 Opponents, A Double Chokeslam, DDT On Ring Apron, Ring Post Boot.

-Animation quality, match feel/speed, and the in game navigation system have been improved. The navigation system isn’t touched, but the actual navigation of the individual wrestlers was and it’s much improved.

-There is now a hesitation to running instead of immediately entering into a full sprint.
Animations look better, and wrestlers will now fidget (grab their wrist tape, mini-taunt, or motion to the opponent) through a match.

-2K are striving for a true to life presentation of a WWE event, but keeping it fun for the player as well.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I loved in the Summerslam promo last, when they were showing photos of wrestlers as kids, and then photos of them as adults. AJ's "childhood" photo looked like it could have been taken a week ago.

 

[Van Petrol]

I loved in the Summerslam promo last, when they were showing photos of wrestlers as kids, and then photos of them as adults. AJ's "childhood" photo looked like it could have been taken a week ago.

She even had a WWE Women's replica belt in it.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I loved in the Summerslam promo last, when they were showing photos of wrestlers as kids, and then photos of them as adults. AJ's "childhood" photo looked like it could have been taken a week ago.

Does that make us all pedophiles for fighting over her?

 

[Pink Ranger]

Does that make us all pedophiles for fighting over her?

In theory, no.

Just the guys who are really creepy about it.

Which is all of you.

But still, in theory, no.

 

[Wheels]

It's both in the sense that if a guy proves that he's worth it, at some point you have to pull the trigger and give him belts and big time matches and angles, otherwise you're just wasting opportunity.

But Curtis Axel is just one of many examples that booking is not going to get a guy over if he sucks, and guys like CM Punk, Ziggler, and Bryan prove the opposite, that if a guy is over, you can't job him out enough, he's going to remain over.

I believe that the star proves that he deserves wins and accomplishments, not that wins and accomplishments make a guy a star.

That's not always the case. Sometimes guys are always booked strong. What exactly did Hogan, Lesnar, Goldberg, and Angle do to earn their booking? Hogan has been booked strong since he came into the business. Some guys don't have to earn a thing.

 

[Specter313]

A cookie to whoever can tell who the current WWE superstar is on the left:

 

[Pink Ranger]

That's not always the case. Sometimes guys are always booked strong. What exactly did Hogan, Lesnar, Goldberg, and Angle do to earn their booking? Hogan has been booked strong since he came into the business. Some guys don't have to earn a thing.

Someone can be booked strong at the beginning, but if they don't have the "it" factor, if they don't connect with the audience, then they will go nowhere. See Lashley, Bobby.

If Hogan hadn't connected with the audience early on, he'd be nothing more than a footnote right now. And Angle, who was great, was not booked strongly from the beginning. He won a lot of matches, but was made to look like a buffoon in doing so, so I would not place him alongside Goldberg and Lesnar in terms of being treated like an invincible warrior.

 

[Wheels]

Someone can be booked strong at the beginning, but if they don't have the "it" factor, if they don't connect with the audience, then they will go nowhere. See Lashley, Bobby.

If Hogan hadn't connected with the audience early on, he'd be nothing more than a footnote right now. And Angle, who was great, was not booked strongly from the beginning. He won a lot of matches, but was made to look like a buffoon in doing so, so I would not place him alongside Goldberg and Lesnar in terms of being treated like an invincible warrior.

Angle was given all the major singles titles in his first year.

I'm just pointing out that there is more to it than just being good. I'm not bashing any of the men I listed but it's not like talent will always win out. A wrestler's fate is always up to the promoter in the end.