The Wrestling Thread Is Grateful. Thank You Daniel Bryan - - - Part 218

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Everybody knows WWE isn't in favor of doing the right thing because as we all know they are so convinced that Reigns is their next big face of the company. Well IMO he's pretty much the next John Cena he will probably be the big face of the company but the guy will get booed day in and day out. IF WWE wants to do the right thing they have Dean win this SUnday and have Reigns turn heel at WM when Dean beats HHH.
 
Everybody knows WWE isn't in favor of doing the right thing because as we all know they are so convinced that Reigns is their next big face of the company. Well IMO he's pretty much the next John Cena he will probably be the big face of the company but the guy will get booed day in and day out. IF WWE wants to do the right thing they have Dean win this SUnday and have Reigns turn heel at WM when Dean beats HHH.
I still think there's going to be a Dusty finish, or some kind of tomfoolery, and the Main Event at Mania will be a Triple Threat with Dean, Reigns and Triple H.

And the way I see it, they want Reigns to be the next Cena, just like they wanted Luger to be the next Hogan. But then out came Bret and Shawn, who proved they could carry the company better and put on better matches that the fans actually wanted to see. That's basically what Seth and Dean's roles were.

But I just have to ask this: We all know Reigns is their guy, but at what point do they just give upon him as champ, or at least put him in the oven to cook a bit more?
 
I'm a Reigns fan, but at this point I want him to go heel, and run rampant over the roster. Let him go face again eventually down the line.
 
Not that I'm a regular watcher anymore but are they really going to have another triple threat to make up for **** booking? If I'm them I just have Ambrose win. He's the one he's over and who people want as champion. Give Reigns something else to do at Mania.
 
its daft because all wwe has done with reigns is repeat old story lines to get him over and the most obvious one was the dirty games, he should have went heel back at the tournament and repeated the whole corporate rock gimmick
 
Honestly, I believe the fact that Triple H is champion is clear evidence that even the WWE brass does not believe Reigns can carry the company, at least right now. I would be really, really surprised if he walks out of tomorrow with the title shot.
 
He can win and then be screwed over Monday. That would be a very WWE formula
 
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If I were booking, I'd have Dean win the match Sunday. Maybe have the Wyatt's come in and take out Brock. Have Dean roll up Regins for the win. We don't see Regins again until WM and he costs Ambrose the title match. Just have Trips vacate the title the following night. Or, even better, hand it off the Regins. The heat he'd get would be great. Then have Ambrose and him feud until Summerslam.
 
Honestly, I believe the fact that Triple H is champion is clear evidence that even the WWE brass does not believe Reigns can carry the company, at least right now. I would be really, really surprised if he walks out of tomorrow with the title shot.
Triple H is champ out of desperation, and also because they're kind of trying to force a "Wrestlemania moment". They want to have a fairy tale ending and they believe Reigns defeating a villain will do just that. The problem is, they didn't have any bankable villains, aside from maybe Lesnar.

Remember, they went half the year putting Reigns vs Big Show or Kane, before finally putting Sheamus as his foe, after Seth went down. And even then, they created the League of Nations, which has been the modern day version of what Nexus was to Cena, group of talented guys who could each be stars on their own, killed by the fact that they so desperately wanted to get one guy over.
 
I feel like watching an old WCW ppv like World War 3, I've only seen WW3 '96-'98 and so I dont know which one of them all is the best.
 
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Dude, Hacksaw was PISSED!

I feel like watching an old WCW ppv like World War 3, I've only seen WW3 '96-'98 and so I dont know which one of them all is the best.

1998 was the best one IMO. 1995 was good, but of course, Hogan ruined another moment in Savage's career by being a crybaby.
 
I feel like this is the last attempt/hurrah to get Reigns over

if it falls flat, who knows where things go from there
 
I feel like watching an old WCW ppv like World War 3, I've only seen WW3 '96-'98 and so I dont know which one of them all is the best.

The thing i get the most out of WW3 is that they make me regret not becoming a fan sooner. The first couple events were held at the Norfolk Scope, right in my neck of the woods. Not really complaining, but missing out on seeing Savage win his first WCW title for the "I was there" factor, plus knowing now that I'll never get the chance to see him wrestle live. Could've seen Ultimo Dragon defend the J-crown against Mysterio.

Plus i haven't seen that many big time gimmick matches live. Most high profile was the JBL/Eddie bullrope match. My only cage match was Byran and Wyatt essentially doing the dress rehearsal for the raw angle.


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Triple H is champ out of desperation, and also because they're kind of trying to force a "Wrestlemania moment". They want to have a fairy tale ending and they believe Reigns defeating a villain will do just that. The problem is, they didn't have any bankable villains, aside from maybe Lesnar.

Remember, they went half the year putting Reigns vs Big Show or Kane, before finally putting Sheamus as his foe, after Seth went down. And even then, they created the League of Nations, which has been the modern day version of what Nexus was to Cena, group of talented guys who could each be stars on their own, killed by the fact that they so desperately wanted to get one guy over.

Lesnar isn't a villain to most of the audience I think. WWE is trying to get Reigns over against two fan favorites. The funny thing is Miz is probably the best heel on the roster, maybe Owens too but Miz is the best guy at getting booed right now in my opinion.
 
Lesnar isn't a villain to most of the audience I think. WWE is trying to get Reigns over against two fan favorites. The funny thing is Miz is probably the best heel on the roster, maybe Owens too but Miz is the best guy at getting booed right now in my opinion.
Lesnar is booked as a heel, but yeah, he's way over with the fans as well, despite being a part-timer

Owens and Bray are also solid heels that also get more cheers than boo's no matter what they do, and it's very telling of what it is that the audience wants. Reigns got the most cheers where he wasn't doing things typical of a face. Attacking you "boss" and an old man got him big pops, but they've completely reverted him back to what he was before TLC and the audience just isn't buying. Fans want guys with a little bit of an edge and while I wasn't following the Shield while they were active, it almost looks like he lost that edge that he had with them.
 
Reigns was over with the crowd when he was with Shield while being the mostly quiet badass muscle and when especially when they turned face. But once he got a single's push he was toned down and changed as expected.
 
I really wish they would book Reigns like they have Lesnar. He should be a powerhouse that does more than two moves, and definitely some more damaging looking moves than the Spear and Superman Punch.
 
I really wish they would book Reigns like they have Lesnar. He should be a powerhouse that does more than two moves, and definitely some more damaging looking moves than the Spear and Superman Punch.

The thing about Brock is that he's legitimately hard, we know that for a fact. It'd be hard to book someone like that regardless of size, that's why I always roll my eyes when Big Show does his KO punch.
 
Badass yes, but was Reigns ever convincingly portrayed as a powerhouse? He hasn't displayed the strength feats of Lesnar, Goldberg, Cena and Cesaro. He seems more like his cousin -- big and athletic. Although I feel Rock was the better mover in his prime (so far).
 
Rob Naylor who worked for NXT posted on his twitter a list he made back in 2012 of people they should sign.

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Badass yes, but was Reigns ever convincingly portrayed as a powerhouse? He hasn't displayed the strength feats of Lesnar, Goldberg, Cena and Cesaro. He seems more like his cousin -- big and athletic. Although I feel Rock was the better mover in his prime (so far).

They were trying to push him as a "powerhouse" in the same way they tried to do with HHH a few times over the years. They'd have Reigns do a few minor feats of strength here and there but have the announce team play it up as some impossible feat they'd never seen before.
 
They were trying to push him as a "powerhouse" in the same way they tried to do with HHH a few times over the years. They'd have Reigns do a few minor feats of strength here and there but have the announce team play it up as some impossible feat they'd never seen before.
Kind of like when he'd lift sheamus off the ground but it would take a very long time for him to do it and he wouldn't get him that high but the announcers would sell it like its the greatest thing ever, yet Brock could do it easily and better looking. I do wish his power moves were better, and i actually like the superman punch, but it comes off really stupid when he hits Brock with it and Brock sells it like Luke Cage being shotgunned in the face.
 
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