You always like to turn this into lets bash the Miz argument?
Im not even a Miz mark but I'll the guy credit. He's becoming a better wrestler. Their have been worse main-eventers than him.
Hey you talked about what the Miz was good at and what worked. You can praise the Miz but I can't criticize him?
When Sherri Martel can be a better wrestler, take better bumps, and be a more intimidating and a better talker on the mic you know there's a problem.
When did I say my friends were the only wrestling fans on earth?
I just gave a few of my friends opinions. Are your friends fans of ROH? If so maybe then, their just saying for what he did their.
Nope. I'm not even a big fan of ROH though I do enjoy it the few times I watch it. My point is just because you asked your friends that hardly qualifies as a scientific poll of what people will or won't accept. Theres a LOT of fans in the world to make a generalization on just what a few friends might think.
The trends of the business itself is at least something thats more reliable when making points like that.
The guys you keep trying to bring up, like Bret Hart and HBK failed as maineventer too you know. Also the big picture stuff is invalid.
And you keep failing to bring up WHY they failed. When The WWE surrounds them with a product with garbage men and pig farmers people started to tune out. WCW was offering a fresh modern product and people switched over.
AUSTIN worked because WWF began to change their approach and let him run with the ball in a more modern way. So of course the big picture is valid. just cause you say it isn't doesn't make it true.
Was Austin setting the world on fire in WCW as stunning Steve? If what you are saying is true he should have been. But he didn't because he never got the support, the creative platform, etc. NOBODY does it all by themselves. its a team effort.
Its the same reason Austin walked out when he thought the creative direction was turning to sh**. He didn't come up with every single idea. He had to execute the opportunities he was given.
Steve Austin got people to watch the show. He had the competition on his back. He still got people to watch and became the biggest superstar since Hogan. Even with all those challenges against them they shouldn't have kept losing viewers. This means people just didn't care. Also I could a whole bunch of main eventers challenges they face during their top reign. Your suppose to keep the company stable.
Like I said Austin did none of that by himself. Circumstances helped him along with his talent.
Alright, he stood out. So explain to me why he never gets pops. Explain to me why when he wrestles, the crowds are uber quiet. He stood out by having a great match. Great but it was one time.He's had some other pretty good matches. Yet he still gets **** reactions.
Because WWE doesn't book him in compelling storylines with the best opponents possible.
Its the same reason the IC title used to matter and now it really doesn't. Things become relevant if the time and effort is invested in them to make them so.
Bryan doesn't get pops? Most of the stuff in WWE PERIOD doesn't get the pops it once did. Not the midcard, not the womens division, not the tag titles...nothing. They don't matter to people because people know that stuff doesn't matter to WWE.
Ten years ago WWE could get stuff like Kaientie over. Now they can barely get their top programs over sometimes.
The larger picture IS relevant. Like i said you can't always say its so simple when there are so many X factors. Unless you're going to tell me it doesn't matter when Stephanie is head of creative vs Pat Patterson as head booker? Ten years ago a guy like Patterson probably could have gotten Bryan more over than he is now.
Is it just coincidence that WWE's creative direction began to suffer when Patterson stepped down and Stephanie took more and more control?
Presentation plays a HUGE part in people getting over. Why should Bryan matter to the people when WWE hasn't done enough to put him in situations that matter.
Perception is a huge deal. The people PERCEIVE that the only thing that matter in WWE is the main event and the quarter hour ratings reflect that. Thats because the only thing WWE gives the lions share of its attention to is the main event.
What COMPELLING storylines have creative given Bryan?
In the 80's and 90's everybody had something going on and even the midcard was given airtime doing INTERESTING things. To say its JUST Bryans fault that he's not getting bigger reactions is being shortsighted.
