Sequels The X-FORCE Official Thread

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After DOFP my updated team is:
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Take Blink out for Domino, if not then Cable. Then that's my dream team atm
 
Where did you hear that? They seem to have every option imaginable right now. Nothing seems set in stone.



Agreed.

Cable and Deadpool are pretty much a lock and the only ones who have been name dropped a few times by Liefeld as being attached to the script. If Cable is there then Neena's a given.

Betsy is a safe bet as well.

Although the anpucement of OT actors apart from Hugh Jackman will be In Apocalypse causes a monkey wench In assuminations I still think more than
likely X-Force would take place after the 1980's events of apocalypse.
If the mystery 2018 film Is X-force then X-force could be tied to going after Apocalypse.

While time travel does away with events of Origins Deadpool Is till In 1970's and 1980's only now he never becomes part of weapon X.With Psylocke i see another emma frost and Moira mactaggert situation where they totally ignore the last stand version as far as age goes.

The non-Wolverine OT cast In Apocalypse may simply be cameos more or less
and who knows if there will ever be a film totally around new 2023 or later.
 
Although the anpucement of OT actors apart from Hugh Jackman will be In Apocalypse causes a monkey wench In assuminations I still think more than
likely X-Force would take place after the 1980's events of apocalypse.
If the mystery 2018 film Is X-force then X-force could be tied to going after Apocalypse.

While time travel does away with events of Origins Deadpool Is till In 1970's and 1980's only now he never becomes part of weapon X.With Psylocke i see another emma frost and Moira mactaggert situation where they totally ignore the last stand version as far as age goes.

The non-Wolverine OT cast In Apocalypse may simply be cameos more or less
and who knows if there will ever be a film totally around new 2023 or later.
psylocke got no characterization and I don't think was even named in the film. They could easily introduce the character without contradicting or messing with anything from the TLS. For all we know she could introduced as a British telepath that falls into a coma at some point and wakes up in the body of a younger Asian girl which would serve as a throwback to Revanche and how she was handled in the Ultimate line. Apocalypse could even abduct her and turn her into a Horseman to explain the change. Or they could simply say that the girl in TLS was Kwannon, the younger relative of an adopted Asian Betsy Braddock which bypasses any possible confusion with the body switch angle. They'd have related yet different powers

Many routes that can be taken
 
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Save Betsy for an actual X-Men team rather than a splinter team which would perform less at the box-office. Anyway, the main X-Men team in the future would need a new face if they get a new film.
 
Cable, Domino, Deadpool, Psylocke, Archangel. I would put money on it, if I had any.
 
We already got an alternate counterpart of X-Force in Timeline Prime 2023:

Shadowcat (leader), Bishop, Sunspot, Blink, Warpath.
 
I know this would make some people unhappy, because it is very very different than the comics. But, based on the film universe we have and the actors that would more likely to come in for another film, I would have a story of espionage that takes place after DOFP's new ending (year 2023) and the team set up as:

Scott Summer/Cyclops: Director of the X-Force
Bobby Drake/Iceman: X-Force Field Lead
Warpath
Blink
Bishop/Colossus
Psylocke

Quick notes about my selections:
-The team would be a branch off of the X-Men family from the film universe. The would be the team called in for secret missions. I see them as a mutant swat team, designed to get in, get the job done and get out, leaving no trace of who was there. They are meant to handle the missions the X-Men proper team should not be involved in; missions that cannot be let out to the public.

-Cyclops was never done justice in these films. He is an ELITE tactician and leader, and one of the most trusted of the X-Men family. That is why I have him in the Director role. He would lead the team from the mansion, assign missions, develop tactics. Essentially he would be the General of the team.

-I know the Iceman choice will bother some people. But I think given his extensive time with the X-Men in this universe, I feel he has gained the trust and experience necessary to lead a team like this. Bobby proved in DOFP that he is very valuable to the X-Men and can hold his own in any battle. The team members respect him and can see him as a leader now.

-Given the films that have been made and will be made, I really doubt Hugh Jackman would return as Wolverine for this movie. The only way i see that happening is if it is the third Wolverine movie and this is his team.

-The movie would have to either take place well into the future or involve time travel again if Cable was going to join, so I don't have him on the team.

-I have this taking place right after the new ending to DOFP, and the action sequences in the future were incredible. That's why I chose to use most of that team.

-Related to the note above, I wouldn't mind between Bishop or Colossus. Both would provide the muscle to the group, so both are good with me. If Bishop is chosen, Colossus would be seen as a member of X-Men proper. If Colossus is chose for X-Force, I see Bishop as still being a vigilante mutant on the run, with no affiliation to Xavier, the school or the X-Men at all.


Finally, the story piece. I'm still working the details of the idea out, but I imagine a futuristic espionage film. I'm thinking X-Force taking a mission in Russia to stop their experiments on mutants, that they believe is being done to try and create a group of evil mutant soldiers. Ultimately they wind up battling many mutants, headlined by the big bad, Omega Red. I think his abilities and story would make great focal points for a story like what I'm imagining for X-Force and great fight scenes with the team I've put together.
 
I know this would make some people unhappy, because it is very very different than the comics. But, based on the film universe we have and the actors that would more likely to come in for another film, I would have a story of espionage that takes place after DOFP's new ending (year 2023) and the team set up as:

Comic accuracy aside, if it's just the same characters then what's the point of a name change? They would be more profitable calling it X-Men, not changing the name even though it features the same cast. You don't wanna take the same members of the Avengers and give them the name Defenders. They need to be defined separately and hold on to their name for appeal.

Pretty much the whole point of putting out an X-Force film would be to introduce new characters who do not have a place on the X-Men, and are more on the violent/morally questionable side. Think there's a reason the film is said to feature mutants who have not made it to the mansion. They want to show an unexplored side of the universe and characters.
 
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I must admit after watching DOFP and how good Ashmore is as Iceman, I thought about him leading X-Force. He wouldn't have been in consideration for me before DOFP but they could use X-Force to develop his powers into how great he is in the comics.

However I agree with Def28. My problem would be that he is pretty centric in the normal X-Men and that might be why I would decide against it. Same with the other members, an X-Men spin off should be used to introduce some of the many mutants in the X-Men universe, not to only use the ones who have had smaller roles in main films.

As for the other members I would probably have Warpath from mutants already in films but I wouldn't have him alongside Blink and Colossus, he's too similar to Colossus for such a small team and I don't think Blink would fit either if Psylocke is in there. As long as they have Domino and Psylocke introduced if they do the film, I don't really mind who the other members are. I wouldn't even mind if they didn't use Deadpool/Cable, I would prefer if they used them but whatever it takes to make a good successful film
 
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Lifeld on if there was anything new on X-Force.

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Everything changed when X-Men Apocalypse was announced...
 
When asked if he thinks X-Force will go ahead Liefeld then replied 'Coin toss'.
 
That's weird. I don't see why Fox can't work on both movies at the same time (other studios do). Unless he's talking about the timeline change or something like that.
 
Wonder what he means when he says Apocalypse's announcement changed things. Hope that doesn't mean X-Force is off the table.

We really need to start exploring some other X-teams and characters.
 
I don't understand why they cant release multiple X-films the way Marvel releases movies. This sounds not good. They should use Apocalypse as a huge villain that spans multiple films including X-Force.
 
Wonder what he means when he says Apocalypse's announcement changed things. Hope that doesn't mean X-Force is off the table.

My guess is that X-Force was all Millar and Wadlow, and if Apocalypse has characters or plot lines that contradict Wadlow's script, it's gonna go down. Gonna be whatever Singer wants for his story.

X-Force and an X-men Apocalypse film are really the best scenario for a crossover so it's gonna be a shame if they pass that up and can't find a way to make it work.
I don't understand why they cant release multiple X-films the way Marvel releases movies. This sounds not good. They should use Apocalypse as a huge villain that spans multiple films including X-Force.

Yeah, expanding seems to be the big issue. You hear the way Singer talks about the characters and Spinn offs? There's little to no confidence or recognition in their popularity. Donner on the other hand keeps saying the Studio does realize what they have in other characters, but there is no proof of that yet.

Really hoping we hear a new X property date announced now that DOFP numbers are out.
 
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I think they just want to move forward with Xmen Apocalpse and Gambit right now.
 
Yeah but in order to even move forward with a Gambit movie, Channing Tatum has to be well-received in X-Men: Apocalypse. And we simply don't know if he will be or not yet. X-Force actually seems like a safer bet at this point.
 
I don't understand why they cant release multiple X-films the way Marvel releases movies. This sounds not good. They should use Apocalypse as a huge villain that spans multiple films including X-Force.

Fox doesn't operate like Marvel Studios. Obviously they have no confidence with X-Force. if Deadpool is taking so long, how about X-Force, most especially when they have other options right now like just continue with the FC cast, do another Wolverine film or just continue with the OT cast.
 
It might explain the unnamed FOX film. They might just have confidence in Apocalypse and Wolverine 3, then they're not sure what to do for 2018 but they booked it incase they choose to go ahead with Gambit, X-Force or even another FC or OT sequel
 
There Is talk going around that Fox has axed the X-FOrce film as according to Rob Liefeld
fox's plans changed with Apocalypse announced.
 
It's been posted and discussed above your post.

Lifeld said it's a coin toss, and to be patient on the characters.

Negativity? Be patient! RT @RyanRocca: So with the negativity around x-force film being made, do you feel DP has a chance? @robertliefeld
 
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Comic accuracy aside, if it's just the same characters then what's the point of a name change? They would be more profitable calling it X-Men, not changing the name even though it features the same cast. You don't wanna take the same members of the Avengers and give them the name Defenders. They need to be defined separately and hold on to their name for appeal.

Pretty much the whole point of putting out an X-Force film would be to introduce new characters who do not have a place on the X-Men, and are more on the violent/morally questionable side. Think there's a reason the film is said to feature mutants who have not made it to the mansion. They want to show an unexplored side of the universe and characters.

I must admit after watching DOFP and how good Ashmore is as Iceman, I thought about him leading X-Force. He wouldn't have been in consideration for me before DOFP but they could use X-Force to develop his powers into how great he is in the comics.

However I agree with Def28. My problem would be that he is pretty centric in the normal X-Men and that might be why I would decide against it. Same with the other members, an X-Men spin off should be used to introduce some of the many mutants in the X-Men universe, not to only use the ones who have had smaller roles in main films.

As for the other members I would probably have Warpath from mutants already in films but I wouldn't have him alongside Blink and Colossus, he's too similar to Colossus for such a small team and I don't think Blink would fit either if Psylocke is in there. As long as they have Domino and Psylocke introduced if they do the film, I don't really mind who the other members are. I wouldn't even mind if they didn't use Deadpool/Cable, I would prefer if they used them but whatever it takes to make a good successful film

Thank you guys for responding in a respectful, non-personal way. I understand your argument. The way I look at it, they never truly referred to them as X-Men, so we don't really know their place on the team.

Also, this future has been changed, so we don't know the dynamics of the X-Men, the teams as a whole, their missions, etc. for all we know, in this alternate future, the X-Force team already exists and was put into place in 2015.

I think comparing side characters of the X-Men like Warpath, Blink and Bishop to Captain America, Iron Man and Thor is a major stretch. It would be more like taking Avengers members like Hawkeye, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch after Age of Ultron and making them the... West Coast Avengers?

And I understand introducing new characters, which I'm all for. But I don't feel Warpath, Blink, Bishop or Colossus have been given any characterization or depth whatsoever. They haven't been explored at all. You got teases of the characters, 90% action sequences. Using them as the team for this movie would take characters the audience has seen before and expanding them, giving them real traits the audience can connect with. I think showing growth in a character like Bobby Drake would be nice for the audience. As for the team doing morally questionable things, I think it the characters chosen could understandably pull that off. Especially since, as I've said before, their characters haven't been truly explored or defined.

And finally, correct me if I'm wrong, but even though Warpath has superhuman strength and durability, was it really shown in the movie? All he really showed was great fighting skills and superhuman senses.

I'm just trying to put a different thought into it and do something using the universe we've already been given. Just thinking aloud.
 
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