Transformers These Transformers LOOK way cooler.

[DarkMajin]

Well...

I still think a design like this, or something a lot like it would have worked perfectly.

 

[CConn]

I ended up having no problem with the Autobot designs.

It was the Decepticons that looked like ****.

 

[Warhammer]

I understand that. I just think that the writers could have found way for him to copy a vehicle. I mean, it's not like logic dictates the movie anyway.

But when he landed, modern tanks did not exist.

 

[ragdus]

But when he landed, modern tanks did not exist.

Even in a film lacking hard logic, a robot that's been frozen for thousands of years somehow assimilating himself into a tank just doesn't hold up...

But I don't think everyone quite grasps that.

 

[nosebleed.]

They could have explained that Megatron was aware of what was going on around him the whole time he was frozen. That while he was hooked up to these government supercomputers that he wasn't just putting out info but receiving it as well, albeit unintentionally. That he was aware of the weaponry and technology they were reverse engineering from him and that military weaponry is among that. Then when he was release...there goes his chance to asimilate.

No more illogical than a robot taking a leak on a human being.

 

[CFlash]

They could have explained that Megatron was aware of what was going on around him the whole time he was frozen. That while he was hooked up to these government supercomputers that he wasn't just putting out info but receiving it as well, albeit unintentionally. That he was aware of the weaponry and technology they were reverse engineering from him and that military weaponry is among that. Then when he was release...there goes his chance to asimilate.

No more illogical than a robot taking a leak on a human being.

It also explains why he knew English right off that bat.

 

[skruloos]

Even in a film lacking hard logic, a robot that's been frozen for thousands of years somehow assimilating himself into a tank just doesn't hold up...

But I don't think everyone quite grasps that.

i understand that. But if Bumblebee could switch to another form at whim, why couldn't Megatron? I'd understand your point if the only time transformers could copy a vehicle was right after it landed but that's not really the case in the film.

 

[ragdus]

i understand that. But if Bumblebee could switch to another form at whim, why couldn't Megatron? I'd understand your point if the only time transformers could copy a vehicle was right after it landed but that's not really the case in the film.

Who said he couldn't? I don't recall anyone ever doing that. The whole reason everyone else did was to LAY LOW.

Megatron woke up, busted up the joint and started kicking ass. What reason would he have to hide in an alt mode?

It's really not that complex or hard to discern.

 

[WalterKovacs]

i like the simplicity of the 80's version but i love the movie version of optimus' "ears" or whatever else you would call them. sue me if they look like bat-ears.

 

[nosebleed.]

i like the simplicity of the 80's version but i love the movie version of optimus' "ears" or whatever else you would call them. sue me if they look like bat-ears.

lol...I don't think anybody has complained about Prime's bat ears. If they have then point me in their direction so I can laugh at them and depants them in front of the whole class.

 

[Timstuff]

The robots in this movie are freaking hard core. The ones in the show were designed around being able to animate them quickly and cheaply. They had charm, but you'd be crazy to deny how awesome the ones in the movie looked.

 

[nosebleed.]

The robots in this movie are freaking hard core. The ones in the show were designed around being able to animate them quickly and cheaply. They had charm, but you'd be crazy to deny how awesome the ones in the movie looked.

I deny any awesomeness in Frenzy.

 

[WalterKovacs]

i think prime couldve looked like this

Shot at 2007-07-05

i dont take credit but ithink that is amazing

i think prime would've looked like this
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/pig_****/ass.jpg

 

[Timstuff]

i think prime couldve looked like this

Shot at 2007-07-05

i dont take credit but ithink that is amazing

Wow, that's just plain moronic looking. The movie one is 30x better.

 

[ragdus]

Wow, that's just plain moronic looking. The movie one is 30x better.

erm, you know that 90% of that is the exact movie version (color changes aside) right?

so by definition it's a maximum of 11% better, not 3000%

 

[skruloos]

Who said he couldn't? I don't recall anyone ever doing that. The whole reason everyone else did was to LAY LOW.

Megatron woke up, busted up the joint and started kicking ass. What reason would he have to hide in an alt mode?

It's really not that complex or hard to discern.

I'm not saying it was hard to discern. I stated a preference. I would have preferred if Megatron took the form of a tank. It wouldn't have to be explained. The movie has enough holes in it so what's one more?

The response I got from my statement was that Megatron was found in the Arctic Circle or that there were no tanks when he first landed. You even replied with:

Even in a film lacking hard logic, a robot that's been frozen for thousands of years somehow assimilating himself into a tank just doesn't hold up...

But I don't think everyone quite grasps that.

Why doesn't it hold up? Sure, it doesn't make sense that he would find an alt-mode but the movie doesn't bother explaining a lot. There was no real reason why Bumblebee changed to the newer Camaro. Even if he was offended it was pointless. And yet, there he was with a new body. There are many instances in the movie that were done for the sake of being cool or funny.

And really, was the condescension necessary?

 

[Riddick2009]

Wouldn't work for who? The mass audience who will swallow anything or you because you think it would look too blocky, even though crappy American made cars are very blocky? Personally, I rather have cool looking generation 1 inspired designs than ugly skeletal monsters.

Well the Transformers in the movie were designed to be able to actually turn into the vehicles they represent. They way the change is realistic, the body is designed to twist a certain way or compact a certain way. I have the G1 Movie and when they turn into there vehicles it doesn't make sense. They just fold real fast and they are that vehicle.

 

[ragdus]

Yes it was necessary because you're still not grasping it. The entire reason for alt modes is to stay hidden. What exactly did Megatron need to hide from once he thawed out? His sole mission was to acquire the Allspark, and he didn't give two ****s who knew he was an alien robot. One doesn't feel the need, or desire, to acquire a costume when one doesn't see any reason to disguise one's identity.

 

[Riddick2009]

I agree. When he thawed out he even told them his name ''I am Megatron'' He didn't care who seen him or who knew what. No reason to hide his idenity.

 

[Eternalzero]

erm, you know that 90% of that is the exact movie version (color changes aside) right?

so by definition it's a maximum of 11% better, not 3000%

not 90%, more like 40-60% at most, and that's would be only the color change at the feet.

That version doesn't even transform properly, and honestly, makes prime look like hes a kid. (and don't even start the "flames" arguement).

Everyone in the theatre thought the transformers looked kickass, and fought kickass. Loads of teamwork in the final fight scene (iron hide and ratchet covering Shia was pretty cool). Are they the big boxes that we have grown up with? No.

They are an ADVANCED machine alien race that could alter their structure at will. I believe they are more in order "futuristic looking" rather than the big boxes we were used to given their technological complexity. Were they a bit busy during the fight scenes? Sure. but that was because the shots were filled soley around the human characters with CGI robots flying around the edges of that character.

A great interpretation of the transformers and the transformers universe. That's all. Looked great on the screen, good solid action movie, good interpretation of characters (megatron was one evil SOB, more evil than I had ever seen him in the show).

 

[skruloos]

Yes it was necessary because you're still not grasping it. The entire reason for alt modes is to stay hidden. What exactly did Megatron need to hide from once he thawed out? His sole mission was to acquire the Allspark, and he didn't give two ****s who knew he was an alien robot. One doesn't feel the need, or desire, to acquire a costume when one doesn't see any reason to disguise one's identity.

I understand that point completely. As I stated in my post, it doesn't matter to me that it makes sense in the internal logic of the movie. Just as the scene where Bumblebee changing into a different model of Camaro had no effect on the plot of the film, or the *********ion scene, or the police guy giving Sam a hard time...these were all put into the film for their humor or "cool" factor. Knowing that this is a film where thing are put in simply because they are cool or humorous, I stated that I thought it would be cool for Megatron to take the form of a tank.

Would it have to make sense in the logic of the story? No, as many scenes of the movie didn't exactly adhere to the logic of the plot. So please, get off your high horse and actually read and respond accordingly instead of regurgitating the same argument even after I have stated multiple times that logic would not be a necessary restriction.

 

[ragdus]

So please, get off your high horse and actually read and respond accordingly instead of regurgitating the same argument even after I have stated multiple times that logic would not be a necessary restriction.

Again, there was no restriction whatsoever, logical or otherwise. He didn't change into a tank because he didn't want to. Bumblebee changed alts because he wanted to. End of story.

 

[Eternalzero]

I would actually go that in light of the robots being so technologically enhanced (human holograms and stuff) that they should just make their entire bodies holograms and conceal themselves from the humans. It would make more sense logically because it can already be done.

But it's not the transformers we know because otherwise they wouldn't transform. What we got in the movie was an updated look the transformers have been wanting to push for, for years, but have been limited to by the "boxes" because toys are not able to transform as complex.

In fact the only real transformer toy that can transform into a vehicle and not look like a box or have a "backpack" is the Ultimate bumblebee. Transformers needs a new look, and the movie has done that. Sadly, the toys have not. Barricade's arm is the entire side of his car......wow....neat and high tech...

 

[skruloos]

Again, there was no restriction whatsoever, logical or otherwise. He didn't change into a tank because he didn't want to. Bumblebee changed alts because he wanted to. End of story.

Wow. You don't say? Doesn't change the fact that I think it would have been cool if Megatron took the form of a tank. Yes it would have been pointless but then he might have a definite arm cannon and look much closer to his G1 and comic book counterpart. And that would have just been the icing on the cake for his dialogue and Weaving's great delivery.

 

[CFlash]

Dude, the guy got disoriented by Earth's magnetic field. Some freakin navigator- like he's never visited a planet before. Megs ain't very bright in this movie. The Queen from Aliens was smarter than him.