They sent the Cruiserweight Division out to get the Wrestling Thread!

[sweetre15]

I know it's a lot I posted there but I really want to know what you guys think of my "Two Year Plan" of changing the WWE and what you guys would do for a two year process of that nature?

 

[Darkness Falls]

Paige in a bikini contest

 

[runawayboulder]

I know it's a lot I posted there but I really want to know what you guys think of my "Two Year Plan" of changing the WWE and what you guys would do for a two year process of that nature?

Does it involve more ass shots from Paige?

If so, I support you 100%.

 

[sweetre15]

Does it involve more ass shots from Paige?

If so, I support you 100%.

Lol I'll be supplying those as they come along.

But on wrestlingforum someone already called me HHH and told me to email my plan to Vince

 

[Frico]

Paige in a bikini contest

 

[sweetre15]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

- Rey Mysterio was backstage at the September 27th AAA Lucha Underground tapings in Los Angeles. Someone tweeted a photo of Rey there but it was quickly taken down. JTG was also backstage.

- WWE is working on getting the lawsuits that were brought against them, based on the idea they violated SEC regulations with the new TV deal, dismissed.

- There has been more talk about putting Rusev in a feud with United States Champion Sheamus after the current feud with Big Show is over. The idea is that Rusev would win and brag about being US Champion to get heat.

Read more: http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news...ws-on-possible-plans-for-rusev/#ixzz3Exa4Ln3Z

 

[sweetre15]

- We noted before that there was talk of doing John Cena vs. Dean Ambrose on an upcoming RAW with the winner facing Seth Rollins in a Cell match at WWE Hell In a Cell. The loser would then face Randy Orton at the pay-per-view.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that the current plan is for Hell In a Cell to start with Cena vs. Ambrose. The winner of that would main event the show with Rollins in the Cell and the loser would face Orton, also in the Cell.

WWE is expected to finalize Hell In a Cell plans this weekend and make an announcement on RAW.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

 

[Hunter Rider]

- There has been more talk about putting Rusev in a feud with United States Champion Sheamus after the current feud with Big Show is over. The idea is that Rusev would win and brag about being US Champion to get heat.

AKA booking 101.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[sweetre15]

Hunter, you accepted defeat because my Paige pics were too awesome? Lol

 

[vantheman77]

Last night's Impact was main evented by the Knockouts title match between Gail Kim and Jessicka Havok that saw Havok becoming the new KO champion.

 

[sweetre15]

Last night's Impact was main evented by the Knockouts title match between Gail Kim and Jessicka Havok that saw Havok becoming the new KO champion.

How was the match?

 

[Wheels]

I know it's a lot I posted there but I really want to know what you guys think of my "Two Year Plan" of changing the WWE and what you guys would do for a two year process of that nature?

I like most of your ideas but the off-season thing is going to take longer than two years to accomplish in my opinion. WWE has to have stars in place and one year of good booking isn't guaranteed to put them in that position.

 

[JabarR]

Paige in a bikini contest

I know some who got Paige's ass beat by 100 miles!

 

[sweetre15]

I like most of your ideas but the off-season thing is going to take longer than two years to accomplish in my opinion. WWE has to have stars in place and one year of good booking isn't guaranteed to put them in that position.

Well I think that with the promising talent on the roster, if they gave them as much freedom as they have in NXT, they might just have that become a reality. People like Paige, Cesaro, Zayn, Emma, Neville, Charlotte etc etc whom can get over in a less toxic environment rather quickly can be potential huge stars in a year because of their own talent. It just requires Vince and Dunn backing the f--ck off. IMO

 

[vantheman77]

How was the match?

It was good actually and they did an angle early on where Gail Kim came out, but was attacked from behind by Havok where she injured Gail's shoulder using some kind of spinebuster move.

Later, the medics tended to Gail as she still wants to fight Havok and they have their match in the main event. They told a good story where Gail is nursing an injury while fighting the dominating Havok, but she was soundly defeated. Havok becomes the new KO Champion.

Actually, they revolved last night's Impact around Gail Kim and Havok. Also last night saw the return of EC3 and he and Spud are having their internal problems and there was tension between the tag teams that was needed in the series.

 

[H.U.S.T.L.E.]

I know it's a lot I posted there but I really want to know what you guys think of my "Two Year Plan" of changing the WWE and what you guys would do for a two year process of that nature?

There's a lot to unpack there, but I do agree with most of it.

The only one I disagree with in concept is an offseason - I understand the point of it, but I think a better solution would be to structure some storylines where at the end of it, you basically write a guy off TV for a couple months. One of the things you hear guys like JR talk about is how stale some performers get when they're on tv ALL THE DAMN TIME. In the territory days, when you finished a run in one place you'd move along to another territory to prevent you from becoming too stale in one place. I do think one of the successes of WWE is that it's presented year-round, but I fully support giving guys and gals time off. I just think that it's best to do it on a staggered basis and use storylines to do it. As a general rule, I'd say for every two years a performer should get at least three months off.

I'll come up with some other thoughts, but I like a lot of the direction in your two-year plan.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I know some who got Paige's ass beat by 100 miles!

Did you see that she is on Amazing Race this season?

 

[sweetre15]

There's a lot to unpack there, but I do agree with most of it.

The only one I disagree with in concept is an offseason - I understand the point of it, but I think a better solution would be to structure some storylines where at the end of it, you basically write a guy off TV for a couple months. One of the things you hear guys like JR talk about is how stale some performers get when they're on tv ALL THE DAMN TIME. In the territory days, when you finished a run in one place you'd move along to another territory to prevent you from becoming too stale in one place. I do think one of the successes of WWE is that it's presented year-round, but I fully support giving guys and gals time off. I just think that it's best to do it on a staggered basis and use storylines to do it. As a general rule, I'd say for every two years a performer should get at least three months off.

I'll come up with some other thoughts, but I like a lot of the direction in your two-year plan.

Honestly my suggestion for "Offseason" is loosely defined to be honest. It's where I title division will take a duration of time off for the other title picture to take front and center then continue to rotate until Mania and Summerslam.

So it's more like being put on the bench lol.

 

[sweetre15]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


We've noted how Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling will present New Japan's WrestleKingdom pay-per-view from the Tokyo Dome on January 4th. Cable distributors have wanted a $24.95 price tag for the event but New Japan charged $35 this year for the same event on iPPV so the price should be somewhere between those two.

Regarding Jim Ross possibly doing commentary, Ross recently said he's had no talks with New Japan which is correct. However, Ross has had talks with people from Global Force Wrestling

TNA and Global Force Wrestling have been in talks with the same TV networks, because very few networks are interested in picking up pro wrestling.

TNA actually has the upper-hand over GFW as they are operational, have some history and have stars under contract. Spike TV not renewing TNA may have changed the landscape of the business by making it a lot harder for GFW to get a TV deal.

Another issue with TNA's potential network talks is that most of the stations they are rumored to be talking with don't air in Canada. Spike TV airs in most of Canada, which has always been strong for pro wrestling.

 

[Rincewind]

I know it's a lot I posted there but I really want to know what you guys think of my "Two Year Plan" of changing the WWE and what you guys would do for a two year process of that nature?

Here's my two cents, in case you're interested

- Make sure to demote Vince and Kevin Dunn from using their stroke by forcing them to retire
That's a no-brainer. Vince should just go. If you ask me, putting HHH and Steph permanently in charge would do only good to the business. Right now, from what I read here and there, it's a horrible situation in which HHH does, decides or says something and later Vince comes and unmakes everything leaving talent, creative and executives confused. Just let the old yeller go.

Unfortunately, this will never happen. Vince will not retire willingly.

- Cutting Down The Writing Team
Depends. Generally, the booking of old was done by small teams and that has its benefits. However, we must not forget how HUGE the WWE actually is, with all its shows. The old promotions just can't compare in size and scope. Cutting down the writing team to 2-3 guys would probably lead to many troubles.

What I would do is more like re-structure the team instead of shrinking it down.
The top wrestlers, in my opinion, should have writers who are dedicated to them, and them only. Like, one guy writing for Cena, one for Orton, one for Bryan etc. But, just to stress it out, that's for the top guys only. The selected few whose faces are on the posters and who actually sell out the arenas. The idea would be to get real creative force behind those characters. If you have to think about 50 characters, chances are that you won't come up with 50 great ideas every damn week. However, if you just focus on one character and collaborate with the guy who's focusing on the character your wrestler is feuding with, I believe that it will lead to better stories, more memorable moments and deeper characterization. Those "top star" writers would need to collaborate with their wrestlers on a regular basis and should pay attention to their strengths and talents.
Now, for the midcard and the tag teams, I'd put a small team of... say... 4-5 people who won't really bother with the main event unless a star begins to rise. Those 4-5 guys would actually do the bulk of the work in terms of material that has to be created, but the pressure would be lesser than that of the top guys' writers.
There should be a single guy who actually controls and manages the whole thing, and would be the liaison with both HHH and the agents.

- Giving More Freedom to The Wrestlers
Again, depends. I mean, sure, Austin never would have become such a megastar if he wasn't given the freedom to be himself, but... not every guy is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Some (most) wrestlers just don't have what it takes to become the next Austin.
I mean, sure, I'm all for giving them some freedom. Giving them bullet points rather than scripts is certainly something I agree with. But, still, some guys will always need more direction than others.

- Ring Time
Generally, yes. RAW, at least, has all the time it needs to afford it. By all means, longer and more dramatic matches are something that I can sign under.

- Taking more risks with the Format of the show
To a certain extent. Even if we freshen things for a while, you can't keep rediscovering the Americas each week. Wrestling is wrestling. To me the more important thing would be that the show is of good quality, that it makes people excited. If that's done, it's not crucial if the format is nothing new under the sun. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I mind if the format changes a bit, it's just that it would not be crucial for me.

- Take the Divas more seriously
Sigh. I'll probably be in the minority here.

But I don't care about female wrestlers.

Don't get me wrong, I love them as much as anyone, but... just for example, looking at Paige's bikini contest pictures here... I'm looking and I'm not saying "Man, I want to see her wrestle in a 30 minute match!", I'm looking and I'm saying "Wow, that's a lovely ass." Same with Scarlett Bordeaux, Lana and so forth. It sounds chauvinistic, I know, but I'm just being honest.
So, if it were up to me, I'd probably leave the female division as is, with the exception that I'd focus on the girls I find to be hot. Which would mean more Paige and less Bellas, for example, but it would still be because of that lovely white ass.

Aside from that, though, I do feel that the art of the valet has been lost nowadays. A guy who seems stuck in the midcard could become hotter for the crowd if he's paired with a cool chick, provided, of course, that the whole thing is executed well. Heck, even HHH became in full the magnificent bastard-type character of the late Attitude Era once he was paired with Steph. So, I'd look in that direction. Lana and Rusev are a good start.

- Long term investment in developing an undercard
Sure. That's a no-brainer. However, this is a process that takes time. It's very important that the person in charge is aware of that and has a stable long-term plan (so that means no Vince).

- More "Grounded" interview segments
Depends. In some cases, sure. Heck, even in most. But look at the Wyatts, or even the Shield before they broke up. Those interviews, if they can even be called such, were not grounded or even realistic. They were over-the-top, dramatic and cool. And they worked.
I imagine that grounded segments and interviews would generally work well. But that has to match the overall tone of the show. If the show becomes more grounded as a whole, sure - no problem. Still, if a character (especially if he's a top star) is not fit for a grounded interview I'd rather change the interview than the character.

- Make Championship belt feuds revolve around the title
Yes.

But that's in regards to the midcard titles. The world title, in my opinion, should have meatier stories than "I'm better than yah, brah!". By all means, though, the midcard titles should be made relevant and should have feuds that revolve around them. And those feuds should get their own TV time and good matches.

- Let the Midcard titles headline PPVs
At this point, can't see it done. First we must restore the prestige of the midcard titles. And that's something that will take more than a year.

- OFFSEASON for Performers
This would be beneficial in many aspects. First off, it would be good for the health and the personal lives of the performers. Second, it would prevent their characters from becoming stale. It also prepares the ground for memorable moments when a hot star finally returns.

However, this is something that has to be executed carefully. Wrestling is very dependent on the fans and if a guy is white-hot, it may not be the best decision to pack him off for a 3-month holiday. So this is something that has to be done with the guys and the angles in mind.

- Have all Titles defended simultaneously only once a year
I don't know, honestly. Certainly, it has to be done at least once. But the year cannot hinge on WrestleMania alone. If it were up to me, I'd separate the year into four... seasons, for a lack of a better term, each centered around the iconic PPVs - Royal Rumble, Mania, Summer Slam and Survivor Series. Everything in between is simply... I don't want to say filler, but just the journey towards the destination. But since the Rumble and the Survivor Series have attractions of their own, I can consent that they don't need all the titles defended. I would however, do that for Summer Slam as well as Mania.

 

[sweetre15]

Thanks for the feedback Rincewind. In regards to the female wrestlers, keep in mind that there is a market for seeing women in a competitive environment hence why Dana White added a female division to UFC and this current season of Ultimate Fighter is treated like a big deal.

Present them in a serious competitive fashion and people will support that since seeing women be badass and good looking at the same time is appealing this day and age.

 

[sweetre15]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


- There have been talks of having Triple H's new "stooges" Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury wrestle a match.

- We noted before that indie wrestler Leva Bates worked the recent WWE NXT TV tapings, losing to Carmella. It's expected that WWE will bring Bates back for another look.

- It was said this past week that even if WWE decides not to do John Cena vs. Dean Ambrose on RAW with the winner facing Seth Rollins at Hell In a Cell, they will definitely be doing a Cena vs. Ambrose feud eventually, according to PWInsider. We noted yesterday that the Cena vs. Ambrose match may actually happen as the Hell In a Cell opener, instead of RAW.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Thanks for the feedback Rincewind. In regards to the female wrestlers, keep in mind that there is a market for seeing women in a competitive environment hence why Dana White added a female division to UFC and this current season of Ultimate Fighter is treated like a big deal.

Present them in a serious competitive fashion and people will support that become seeing women be badass and good looking at the same time is appealing this day and age.

Or actually go find women's feds that actually give a damn about women's wrestling like SHIMMER.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Thanks for the feedback Rincewind. In regards to the female wrestlers, keep in mind that there is a market for seeing women in a competitive environment hence why Dana White added a female division to UFC and this current season of Ultimate Fighter is treated like a big deal.

Present them in a serious competitive fashion and people will support that become seeing women be badass and good looking at the same time is appealing this day and age.

There are two divisions: The 120's and the Ronda Rousey Division