Things that DC did that you think were wrong.

[Manic]

They're about to commit the ultimate mistake as far as I'm concerned.

Spoiler

Turning Kyle Rayner into a new Parallax.

Ugh. They'll undo it in 10 years, though.

 

[The Leaguer]

Kyle Rayner and Cassandra Cain. I'll never forgive them.

 

[Manic]

Well, if they're ever going to take DC back to the Silver Age, they'll have to get rid of all these characters created after 1985.

 

[fifthfiend]

Yeah but the part where they utterly descrate them first, that part we could maybe do without.

 

[BrianWilly]

I can't believe that my DC pull list is down to three books now. And then I look at this thread and think, wait, nevermind, I can totally believe that.

 

[fifthfiend]

There's 3 DC comics you can still read?

I call shennanigans.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

i read JSA,Batman,Green Lantern and superman.

 

[BrianWilly]

There's 3 DC comics you can still read?

I call shennanigans.

I'll still read a bunch, but the only ones I plan on buying are JSA, Blue Beetle, and GL Corps. And even that on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Varient]

Smile - I enjoy when sumbody types what I've been thinking,.. it saves on keystrokes and reassures me that I'm not the only one.
The following was edited to match how I woulda said it:

Things I've had a problem with at DC recently:

- Turning Batgirl
- Killing Conner Kent
- Resurrecting Kara Zor-El as an obnoxious *****ebag
- Turning Tim into an angsty, emo

(Meh)- Giving Johns, Waid, Morrison, and Meltzer free reign to resurrect the Silver Age in its entirety.

- Resurrecting Jason Todd.

- Getting rid of the rich, interesting cast of characters from DC

(Meh)- Putting the Silver Age Legion back in Superman's history.

- Turning Captain Atom into a catatonic ****** then slap him in the Monarch armor and take him out of play

Using Bart Allen with horrible writing - It was a disservice to Bart as a character and it made the people behind DC look like complete utter *****es who don't give a damn about their characters.

- Wonder Woman. I didn't like the secret agent angle, didn't like that Picoult has made Wonder Woman seem like a moron when it came to modern life, and I really don't like Amazons Attack (period)

- That Helmet of Fate - I bought the entire run,... with exception of detective chimp,... I could barely deal with it - yuck!

- Killing off Hector Hall, Pointless.

(Meh)- The way Johns has managed the characters of JSA.
I marveled quietly that a bunch of older heroes never insisted that Powergirl put on some clothes or at least a skirt. so the rest of the writing f
- Killing off the android Hourman and makierlt "out of step."

- Giving Wildcat a long-lost kid--absolutely never - just rejuve him or have him retire,.. this is the second "second" wildcat I've read.

- Having Kingdom Come crap bleed over into the mainstream DC universe more and more. The only good on that will be the upcoming death of Lois Lane.

- Killing off the Question and then cramming Rene Montoya into that role. I

(meh) - Making the JLA boring as all hell.

- Getting rid of Ray Palmer and replacing him with an Asian copy of himself. This may be nullified by the upcoming Search for Ray Palmer, which looks to be pretty awesome.
My issue of course was the JLA taking so long to even start.

(Meh)- Making Connor Hawke the pacifist monk a murderer.

(meh)- Allowing Adam Beechen to write anything.

I'm sure I have more problems with DC's current comics, but this is all I can remember at the moment and I've already spent half an hour at work coming up with this much.

(Still grining) Thanks corp,.. saved me about 45 minutes.
The "Meh's" were just topics I haven't sweated for different reasons.


V.

 

[Sloth7d]

made him part of the loop.)

Completely screwing up Superboy (what the hell's with that t-shirt costume? Am I to believe there's Superman merchandise in a world with Superman in it?)

Why wouldn't there be. He IS an icon in the DCuniverse.

 

[Spade]

Kyle Rayner. He has always been the best Green Lantern as far as I'm concerned, with Alan Scott as a close second (because I'm into the oldies like that). Parallax was that mope Jordan's thing, and it was such a great idea that they brought him back after much fan-complaining afterwards. But this...thing...they plan on turning Kyle into is just fugly. It's an all-around bad idea for the character, especially when his Ion upgrade finally gave him the sort of "contender" title I was hoping he would someday have.

Kyle Rayner and Cassandra Cain. I'll never forgive them.

I'm not a big X-Men fan, but if I may ask- why?

 

[LadyVader]

Cassandra Cain is the name of the newest Batgirl, for which Leaguer has always had a thing.

She's recently been turned evil for no apparent good reason, only to have the whole thing revoked because she was supposedly being drugged when she commited her evil deeds. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

 

[BrianWilly]

And now she's evil again or something.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The thing that galled me most was when they undid the villain stuff by having Deathstroke drug her all along, but then they ****ed it all up again by having Cassandra try to kill Deathstroke for revenge.

Oh. Well, the way you phrased it made it seem as though you blame those individual writers for embracing the silver age. Which you do, don't you?

I blame DC for giving them the power to embrace the Silver Age in their comics. I worry about the individual writers to different extents. Waid is the lowest end of the spectrum, while Johns is probably the highest.

 

[The Question]

As you all could probably guess, I wasn't entirely happy with The Question's death and replacement. But the thing is, that's a funny dislike on my part. You see, I always thought it would be pretty cool if they killed off Vic. They could have had him die fighting for the truth, or hell, even kill him with cancer. That would have been fine. 'Cause, y'see, I don't mind characters changing, or dying, or getting older or getting sick or getting married or having kids or changing careers or whatever. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. My big problem with most comics these days is that change is only superficial. Everyone's just kind of frozen, and any real change usually gets undone somehow. So, I welcome changes to the status quo. Keeps things interesting. But my problem with the way they killed Q off is simply that it seems they only brought him into the series for the sake of killing him off and replacing him. There was no point behind it besides making Montoya The Question. Which, I must say, is a fairly bad fit. If they had killed Vic off in a way that was a bit more creative or interesting, then that would have been fine. My problem is basically that they killed him off with no real respect for the character. Which is usually a mistake on the part of the writer.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The Question's death and replacement actually confused me more than annoyed me. Vic Sage was riding high off of his JLU appearances, and DC even gave him a mini-series that, from everything I've heard, was fantastic, boosting his status even more. What on Earth convinced the writers or editors or whoever made the decision to off Vic decide that the appropriate response to his recent surge in popularity was to kill him off and replace him with a mostly unknown supporting character?

 

[Dwarf lord]

I'll still read a bunch, but the only ones I plan on buying are JSA, Blue Beetle, and GL Corps. And even that on a case-by-case basis.

Yeah. My list has shrunk too. JSA, Detective Comics, The Flash (When Waid comes on), JLA (When the new guy comes on) and the new GA series.

 

[The Question]

The Question's death and replacement actually confused me more than annoyed me. Vic Sage was riding high off of his JLU appearances, and DC even gave him a mini-series that, from everything I've heard, was fantastic, boosting his status even more. What on Earth convinced the writers or editors or whoever made the decision to off Vic decide that the appropriate response to his recent surge in popularity was to kill him off and replace him with a mostly unknown supporting character?

That too. Although, the mini series was fairly confusing in of itself. He acted more like John Constantine with Rorschach's personality than himself. And they invented a bunch of fairly interesting villains that they subsiquently killed off.

 

[yenaled]

That Question mini-series sucked ass.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Okay, never mind. I'd heard it was great, but apparently that's not the consensus.

 

[The Question]

Okay, never mind. I'd heard it was great, but apparently that's not the consensus.

It had some good characters and a good premise. But like I said: John Constantine with Rorschach's personality.

 

[D Day]

Blue Superman
aQUAMAN'S LOST ARM
dEATH OF sUPERMAN

 

[King Ruler]

Spoiler

Killing Bart Allen after 13 issues of him being the Flash

I'm done with DC. The bastards.

 

[Anubis]

That's what finally did it for you? Okay, whatever.

 

[Batman]

Giving Batman an allegedly biological son, only to have him switch between good, evil, and annoying, before getting blown up on a yacht in the space of only a few issues. (And yes, I know he's coming back soon.)

The Energy Superman of the 90's. Not the fact that he was put in a new costume and rendered powerless, or anything... I just think it could've been done a hell of alot better.

Retconning, reconning, then re-retconning Birthright as Superman's official origin time and time again. For **** sake's, make up your mind, Didio.

Even attempting to touch the Hush character after Loeb's initial arc. They took a character with potential and initially drove him into the ground with crappy arcs and appearances following.

The fear demon crap of Green Lantern: Rebirth. I didn't mind bringing back Hal. Hell, I like the idea of having Hal as a Green Lantern again. But Jesus Christ, don't take away the only freaking thing that made him remotely interesting to do it.

Killing off Azrael. Yeah, he was, at best, a Batman-wannabe. But he was still a hell of alot more interesting than Jason Todd or Stephanie Brown.

Whatever the hell they've been doing with Superman for the past, what, year?

"Red Arrow". Arsenal was a hell of a better name, and it definately fit Roy alot more.

Bart Allen becoming The Flash. If he hadn't, he would've still been Kid Flash, which was the role he was born to be, and he would've never died pointlessly, and Wally would have never gone through such crap to get the role back.

Martian Manhunter becoming emo. Well... more emo than usual.

The Scarebeast.

Selina Kyle having a baby and giving her role as Catwoman up to Holly. The baby part was actually an interesting storyline, but Selina should still be Catwoman. Or, at the very least, retire the role so no one else could take it rightfully.

Oliver Queen and a highly mischaracterised Dinah Lance getting married.

Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon not getting married.

Turning Talia Head into a b****, after a good thirty years being an interesting character torn between the love for her father and Batman.

Turning Renee Montoya into The Question. I don't know whose idea that was, but they must've been smoking something real good. I mean, The Question having a successor isn't the worst idea ever. Just... there are better characters to do it with. Even Booster Gold is more fit to take Vic's place than Montoya.