This generation's Star Wars

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don't think there's been another series like Star Wars, but Harry Potter is the closest thing there is to it.

But even then, it's not on par at this point (Well, IMO). You don't see business's closing down all over the world because of the release of a HP film (like with Episode I: The pantom Menace).

 

[Erzengel]

Look at it this way, did Star Wars have all of that in 1990?

Also, yes Star Wars has many books and things out every year, but every single Star Wars book published combined has sold less of a quarter of the number of copies that the 7 Harry Potter books have. I know its unfair do to inflation, but the Harry Potter movies are in fact the higest grossing series of all time.

Star Wars has a ride at MGM. Harry Potter has an entire themepark. (well maybe not entire park, but doesn't it have its own admission price?)

You can walk around Hogwarts. You can take a stroll through Echobase.

I agree that star wars is far more expansive, but I'm just saying as a singular cultural event of the past 20 years, the only thing I'd wager even aproaches a Star Wars level event is Harry Potter.

Star Tours opened in the 87? I think the start of the new Star Wars books was 91? And the video games that weren't just based on the movies started coming out around the early 90s as well.

But I understand what you are saying, but my point of a finite pool is still valid. Yes they won't be tearing down HP rides after the movies come out basically because of how expensive it is to do so. But remember, they have the Mummy and Jaws on the other side and how long have they been there. It's not necessarily because the Mummy was so popular but because places like Universal realize how popular something is and begin to capitalize on it.

LOTR is better than Star wars original trilogy but still, while the trilogy is remembered now as the best one of all time people will go more for the books.
And LOTR was already like star wars, star wars was the new LOTR, harry potter is coming very close, but Rowling simply doesn't want others to mess with her work in a tv series or a comic book series with different characters and pretending that it's officially set in her books universe.
Actually i think that harry potter would do very well as a tv show considering that each book takes place during one year, so each book could be one season.
Rowling could do everything George Lucas did with star wars, but she's not that interested, only time will tell if she'll write more about harry potter.

That's subjective. A lot of people don't thing LOTR is the best of all time.

And who knows if HP would do well as a TV show of if Rowling could do everything Lucas did. You can't possibly know unless it happened. And why would they do a TV show of a book that was already a movie? Especially drawing out a book into 23 episodes?

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Star Tours opened in the 87? I think the start of the new Star Wars books was 91? And the video games that weren't just based on the movies started coming out around the early 90s as well.

But I understand what you are saying, but my point of a finite pool is still valid. Yes they won't be tearing down HP rides after the movies come out basically because of how expensive it is to do so. But remember, they have the Mummy and Jaws on the other side and how long have they been there. It's not necessarily because the Mummy was so popular but because places like Universal realize how popular something is and begin to capitalize on it.


That's subjective. A lot of people don't thing LOTR is the best of all time.

And who knows if HP would do well as a TV show of if Rowling could do everything Lucas did. You can't possibly know unless it happened. And why would they do a TV show of a book that was already a movie? Especially drawing out a book into 23 episodes?

Funny thing is, I think the Mummy ride came about after the two initial movies came out anyway, so I think it may have been put out of everyone's mind by then anyway. Harry Potter has a pretty lasting effect so I see it staying a long time. As for Jaws, it's a classic, but I would have said the same thing about Back to the Future and yet its gone for The Simpsons. Hell, I love Men in Black but never would have thought it would have been ride worthy. I LOVE that ride too.

As a TV show goes, I'd go the True Blood/ next season of Walking Dead, and make it a 12 episode run. Lots of time for character development and enough time to tell the book.

 

[Erzengel]

I always make fun of Studios for running ideas into the ground but first let me state that I wouldn't mind seeing an Original Harry Potter or a show called Hogwarts that either predated the movies or were several years later.

What I do think would be running an idea into a ground would be to redo the movie series into seven seasons of a television show as Lord said.

 

[Doc Ock]

But even then, it's not on par at this point (Well, IMO). You don't see business's closing down all over the world because of the release of a HP film (like with Episode I: The pantom Menace).

Very true. We really don't have anything like Star Wars for this generation...besides Star Wars. But I do agree with people that Harry Potter may be as close as this generation will ever get to having its own Star Wars. It won't be the Star Wars of today...but its the next closest thing in terms of pop culture.

 

[Lord]

Star Tours opened in the 87? I think the start of the new Star Wars books was 91? And the video games that weren't just based on the movies started coming out around the early 90s as well.

But I understand what you are saying, but my point of a finite pool is still valid. Yes they won't be tearing down HP rides after the movies come out basically because of how expensive it is to do so. But remember, they have the Mummy and Jaws on the other side and how long have they been there. It's not necessarily because the Mummy was so popular but because places like Universal realize how popular something is and begin to capitalize on it.


That's subjective. A lot of people don't thing LOTR is the best of all time.

And who knows if HP would do well as a TV show of if Rowling could do everything Lucas did. You can't possibly know unless it happened. And why would they do a TV show of a book that was already a movie? Especially drawing out a book into 23 episodes?

She has enough money to do that, so yeah, she could definitelly do the same as Lucas, she's just not interested in doing it.
And when i say LOTR is the best trilogy of all time is because it is now regared as that.

 

[Erzengel]

She has enough money to do that, so yeah, she could definitelly do the same as Lucas, she's just not interested in doing it.

Money doesn't equate to being able to do it successfully.

And when i say LOTR is the best trilogy of all time is because it is now regared as that.

Really? I must have missed the committee deciding on that.

Did they also mention the best singer of all time?

 

[Lord]

Money doesn't equate to being able to do it successfully.


Really? I must have missed the committee deciding on that.

Did they also mention the best singer of all time?

Well, you're not in the oscar comitee either so

 

[danoyse]

Star Wars has a ride at MGM. Harry Potter has an entire themepark. (well maybe not entire park, but doesn't it have its own admission price?)

No, it's the same admission as the rest of the park. The HP theme park is a section of Islands of Adventure. The "islands" at the park are currently:

Marvel Superhero Island
Lost Continent
Jurassic Park
Toon Lagoon
Suess Landing
Wizarding World of Harry Potter

Plus two of the three rides at WWoHP are rollercoasters that were already there as part of the original Lost Continent section, just re-themed Potter-style.

Harry Potter & the Forbidden Journey (the ride inside Hogwarts) is the major attraction. And it's amazingly awesome. I rode it 9 times when I was there.

Plus you can also have lunch at the Three Broomsticks, tour an astonishingly detailed Hogsmeade, take an even more astonishingly detaled tour of Hogwarts (complete with moving portraits and appearances by Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Dumbledore), try stuff like Butterbeer (I had 3 of them - love the frozen kind), pumpkin juice and candy from Hogsmeade, or go to Ollivanders and watch them do the whole wand-choosing thing. They pick a kid waiting in line to do it, but it's a neat little show.

They even have Moaning Myrtle's voice piped into the bathrooms.

By comparsion, Star Tours opened in Disneyland in 1987, and in Disney World in 1992. Both rides closed last year for a major renovation, which was long overdue, and will both reopen this summer.

Both parks have Jedi Training Academy shows for kids, where they can dress up in Jedi costumes and fight Darth Vader or Darth Maul with lightsabers.

Disney World has Star Wars Weekends every spring, which is basically a Star Wars-themed weekend with guest appearances (Jeremy Bulloch and Warwick Davis when I was there), parties and parades in the park.

Star Tours/Star Wars Weekends is fun, but I wouldn't plan a trip to Disney just for the event.

Wizarding World of Harry Potter, on the other hand, I would take another trip down just to see again in a heartbeat.

 

[Erzengel]

Well, you're not in the oscar comitee either so

And you are?

Like I said, a lot of people still view Star Wars as better than LOTR. I can show you polls, or critical analysis that argue both.

 

[Marx]

LOTR. Without question.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Very true. We really don't have anything like Star Wars for this generation...besides Star Wars. But I do agree with people that Harry Potter may be as close as this generation will ever get to having its own Star Wars. It won't be the Star Wars of today...but its the next closest thing in terms of pop culture.

I don't even really want to say that HP is all that close (I'm not bashing HP). The Phantom menace had people camping out 6 weeks in adavance. Ever see Star Wait?

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

It's Harry Potter. Harry Potter has sold a ton of books, has a theme park, and has movies that gross over 300+ million each time to build a billion dollar franchise. Even kids at college play Quidditch.

Yeah I agree with this....Lord Of The Rings being a close second I suppose

 

[CelticPredator]

I vote Halo.

It's like this...

Star Wars 1973- 1995 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo

Star Wars 1996-now <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< x a billion HALO.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ uhhhhh.....Halo? comparing a video game franchise to a massively popular film saga?

 

[redhawk23]

But even then, it's not on par at this point (Well, IMO). You don't see business's closing down all over the world because of the release of a HP film (like with Episode I: The pantom Menace).

JK Rowling purposely started released books 5-7 durring the summer to prevent huge numbers of kids from skipping school.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Well, you're not in the oscar comitee either so

According to the Oscar committee, Citizen Kane wasn't good enough to win Best Picture, despite the fact that it is now widely recognized as one of the best films ever made.

And I don't consider LOTR one of the best trilogies ever because I don't consider it a trilogy. LOTR is one story. It was written as such and filmed as such. It's really one big movie.

 

[redhawk23]

You can argue that Lotr is one big movie, but I'd argue that each one is watchable on its own as a complete film unlike things like Harry Potter 7 part 1 which really did just feel like half of a movie..

 

[CelticPredator]

^^ uhhhhh.....Halo? comparing a video game franchise to a massively popular film saga?

Halo as a whole has more depth, and heart then the entire ****** Prequel Trilogy. Plus, Halo is ****ing huge.

 

[BLACK-SPIDEY]

Halo as a whole has more depth, and heart then the entire ****** Prequel Trilogy. Plus, Halo is ****ing huge.

Now if Peter Jackson had only made the Halo movie...........if only.

 

[Lucifer Maranda]

Perhaps are culture is just too jaded to be completely wowed by anything, anymore.

Perhaps "the next Starwars" will be in a completely different medium then film.

 

[Erzengel]

As much as I'm looking forward to the next Batman movie, I know all the Bat geeks if it is anywhere near good, will be OMG, Batman Trilogy is the best!!!!

 

[Passdom]

This Generation's Star Wars...is Star Wars

There will never again be a film series that ingrains itself into culture like SW did.

Crazy merchandising, TV shows, etc, etc. The Prequels brought Star Wars to a whole new Generation and the brand is as strong as it ever was.

Also, Batman is ingrained into pop culture, but Chris Nolan had nothing to do it. The character was cemented already.

 

[CelticPredator]

^ So strong, that all the crap on the toy isles just sit there, warming the pegs.....

 

[Erzengel]

And yet toys have been selling since I think 1995.