Transformers This is how transformers should have been approached

[big D Evil]

This is an excerpt from an interview with Peter Jackson posted at Aint it cool news.They are dicussing the upcoming Halo movie. Wouldnt it have been great if Dreamworks would have approached Transformers the same way when looking for a director, script, etc?

We certainly didn't set out with HALO to find a first time filmmaker to do HALO. We wanted somebody on HALO that would have 3 qualities. One, a very important one, is that they wanted to do it really badly. They had to be absolute HALO fans. That was important because there are a lot of people who would be happy to do HALO for the paycheck, there's a lot of people who would be happy to do it for the publicity they're going to get from it and the kick it'll give to their career and all that and all of that sort of stuff. There's lots of reasons to do HALO that would be attractive if you're not a HALO fan, but we didn't want any of those people, we wanted somebody who was a real HALO fan.



Secondly, and this is sort of just as important, we wanted somebody who was going to bring a unique vision to it. It's so easy to shut your eyes and imagine a really bad version of HALO. That comes to you in a frightenly simple, quick way. You think, "Oh, my God! This could be so terrible!" I guess it's because so many other video game movies have been terrible and so much other sci-fi in that type of genre has been terrible.



It's like Fantasy was before LORD OF THE RINGS. Everybody was saying, "These films aren't any good." In a sense, everybody's saying "You can't make a good film out of a game." Well, that's all crap. Good films just need good characters, good storyline and a great director to bring it to life and make a film that you've never seen before. That's what it needs. It doesn't matter a damn whether it's based on a game, a book or a piece of chewing gum, you know? That's irrelevant. It's what actually ends up on the screen that's important.

Granted the Halo movie isn't out yet but at least they are TRYING to put some love into it with a director who cares about the franchise!

 

[DorkyFresh]

that's how ALL adaptations should be done...

edit: off topic...the more i hear about Halo: the movie the more i get excited about it. Peter Jackson watching over production, Neil Blomkamp (his shorts are awesome) directing with his unique eye for special effects, and D.B. Weiss (who supposedly dished out a script for "Kashmir" that gave whoever read it a hard-on) as the writer. the only thing this movie needs is Samuel L. Jackson fighting some alien snakes aboard a jet or something...

 

[big D Evil]

that's how ALL adaptations should be done...

edit: off topic...the more i hear about Halo: the movie the more i get excited about it. Peter Jackson watching over production, Neil Blomkamp (his shorts are awesome) directing with his unique eye for special effects, and D.B. Weiss (who supposedly dished out a script for "Kashmir" that gave whoever read it a hard-on) as the writer. the only thing this movie needs is Samuel L. Jackson fighting some alien snakes aboard a jet or something...

I agree. I don't own an X-box an I have only played Halo a few times but it looks like they are really going to go all out on this one.
I am looking forward to it.
Heres another excerpt from that Aintitcoolnews.com interview that I thought was cool.
Regarding the script:
"we're trying to give criticism and suggest ways in which we think things should be improved. That process is going along okay and we're getting there. The movie, as far as I'm concerned, as far as my involvement is concerned, is not going to go in front of the cameras until we have a really great script. We obviously know a lot of the world of HALO that the story's going to take part in. So, there's a lot of very productive work that's underway at the moment while the script takes whatever (amount of time). As far as I'm concerned it should take as long as it needs to take until it's a good script. We are slowly tugging away at it, getting it there."


very cool attitude

 

[DorkyFresh]

i take back what i said...


...that's how ALL movies should be done.

 

[GhostPoet]

I didn't like Halo (and i'm a fps fan) but I think i'll love the movie. =)

 

[CFlash]

I've never played Halo nor know what its about... but I hear fans take it as serious as some of us took Transformers 20 years ago. Sounds like they're doing the franchise justice.... I wish Michael Bay was doing the same.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

Hey, at least Uwe Boll isn't directing.

 

[Hotwire]

So, big D Evil, which director was chomping at the bit to make this movie?? I would assume that if there was a director with some clout, that really wanted to do Transformers, then the studio would have used them. I also find it amusing that based on some leaked pics and a 6 month old script to mean that there is no love in this projecct. I, for one, am gonna give this movie a chance. I'll buy my ticket, watch the movie, then decide if it was good or not.

 

[CFlash]

So, big D Evil, which director was chomping at the bit to make this movie?? I would assume that if there was a director with some clout, that really wanted to do Transformers, then the studio would have used them. I also find it amusing that based on some leaked pics and a 6 month old script to mean that there is no love in this projecct. I, for one, am gonna give this movie a chance. I'll buy my ticket, watch the movie, then decide if it was good or not.

I think everyone is giving the a movie a chance. It's Transformers!

Having said that, I wouldn't go as far as to say "buy the ticket." If all indications stay the same on opening night (leaked pics, script seems to be the same, bad trailer and bad buzz not to mention bad reviews) I'll definately save my money for Spidey 3 and Pirates or TMNT.

 

[big D Evil]

So, big D Evil, which director was chomping at the bit to make this movie?? I would assume that if there was a director with some clout, that really wanted to do Transformers, then the studio would have used them. I also find it amusing that based on some leaked pics and a 6 month old script to mean that there is no love in this projecct. I, for one, am gonna give this movie a chance. I'll buy my ticket, watch the movie, then decide if it was good or not.

Your asking me something I can't possibly know. I don't work at dreamworks so I have no clue what directors were approached (or approached them).
Alot of the script ideas have either been admitted by bay or Murphy or confirmed by set pics etc.
Well, the Bot pics speak for themselves. The designs are WAY too busy.
Optimus is OK but too skinny IMO but i can live with it. Jazz looks pretty cool from the far away pic I have seen as well as ratchet.
The decepticons look like piles of scrap metal, starscreams head either looks like a bugface or a lightbulb depending on which pic is correct and In the bumblebee pic where the BB prop is on the truck it looks like a big junkpile of parts in a humanoid shape. Like if Cyrax from Mortal Kombat and a bionicle had sex and this was thier lovechild....

 

[Anti-Moderator]

If it looks like crap and smells like crap, I don't have to taste it to know it's crap.

 

[Hotwire]

Your asking me something I can't possibly know. I don't work at dreamworks so I have no clue what directors were approached (or approached them).
Alot of the script ideas have either been admitted by bay or Murphy or confirmed by set pics etc.
Well, the Bot pics speak for themselves. The designs are WAY too busy.
Optimus is OK but too skinny IMO but i can live with it. Jazz looks pretty cool from the far away pic I have seen as well as ratchet.
The decepticons look like piles of scrap metal, starscreams head either looks like a bugface or a lightbulb depending on which pic is correct and In the bumblebee pic where the BB prop is on the truck it looks like a big junkpile of parts in a humanoid shape. Like if Cyrax from Mortal Kombat and a bionicle had sex and this was thier lovechild....

OK. Now, let's use another subject and make assumtions about it. I clicked over to your website, looked at the pictures, read the names of your bandmates, and heard the music. Based on these three items, I will assume that your band is into satanic worship, is made up of older guys all 30+, and only wants to make music that sounds like as many other bands as possible so you can get signed with a major label and make a lot of money. Am I correct, or have I perhaps passed judgement a little too soon? Maybe I should give a better listen to the music, read the bios, etc. before I come to a conclussion??

 

[zer00]

There's lots of ways the TF movie should have been approached.

 

[CFlash]

There's lots of ways the TF movie should have been approached.

That true. And we'd all find something small we didn't like on a personal level. However, I don't think ANYBODY expected them to go the Gobots route (plot, look and feel, lameness). That wasn't ever a consideration. But it seems to be the case.

 

[DOG LIPS]

That true. And we'd all find something small we didn't like on a personal level. However, I don't think ANYBODY expected them to go the Gobots route (plot, look and feel, lameness). That wasn't ever a consideration. But it seems to be the case.

Dude, why you always gotta be hatin' on the Gobots?

 

[CFlash]

Dude, why you always gotta be hatin' on the Gobots?

I'm not.
I just think a Gobots movie should be called "Gobots." t:

 

[roach]

OK. Now, let's use another subject and make assumtions about it. I clicked over to your website, looked at the pictures, read the names of your bandmates, and heard the music. Based on these three items, I will assume that your band is into satanic worship, is made up of older guys all 30+, and only wants to make music that sounds like as many other bands as possible so you can get signed with a major label and make a lot of money. Am I correct, or have I perhaps passed judgement a little too soon? Maybe I should give a better listen to the music, read the bios, etc. before I come to a conclussion??

BURN

 

[CFlash]

<snip>Am I correct, or have I perhaps passed judgement a little too soon? Maybe I should give a better listen to the music, read the bios, etc. before I come to a conclussion??

It's funny you say that. Had Bay and the writers done the same maybe they wouldn't have made Bumblebee tower over Jazz like a giant and flipped around their alt-mode capacities and skills. Good point!

 

[Boiiinng]

It's funny you say that. Had Bay and the writers done the same maybe they wouldn't have made Bumblebee tower over Jazz like a giant and flipped around their alt-mode capacities and skills. Good point!

RE-BURN!!!

 

[bunk]

It's funny you say that. Had Bay and the writers done the same maybe they wouldn't have made Bumblebee tower over Jazz like a giant and flipped around their alt-mode capacities and skills. Good point!

Dude wtf. Yuns need to understand it was a cartoon and they took massive liberties when creating it. I realize BB should be the underdog and it's going to be most easily represented to kids as him being the smallest. Kids. You really have to make it obvious for kids. There are are ways to characterize BB. A racecar/porsche would not be that much bigger than a Bug, they knew that when making the cartoon, they just didn't give a s*** because its a CARTOON. You can't expect every corner that was cut in the cartoon to be cut in the movie. They might as well just show the autobots on Cybertron with robot modes that look like earth vehicles. I would hope they wouldn't make any of the same mistakes, they'll make enough new ones on their own. Who the f*** cares if BB is taller than Jazz. If you think BB's height is all that defines then it's good you didn't write the script. He wouldn't be the underdog, just the short one.

 

[NikeHead]

The steps that they are taking for this new movie sounds as if it will come out pretty good. They're standards for this movie are high up so I'm sure they'll get who they want to be involved with this movie to make it a good one. I, for one, am excited to see how this'll turn out.

 

[LennonBoy]

Can someone help me i dont know how to make my own thered

 

[CFlash]

Dude wtf. Yuns need to understand it was a cartoon and they took massive liberties when creating it. I realize BB should be the underdog and it's going to be most easily represented to kids as him being the smallest. Kids. You really have to make it obvious for kids. There are are ways to characterize BB. A racecar/porsche would not be that much bigger than a Bug, they knew that when making the cartoon, they just didn't give a s*** because its a CARTOON. You can't expect every corner that was cut in the cartoon to be cut in the movie. They might as well just show the autobots on Cybertron with robot modes that look like earth vehicles. I would hope they wouldn't make any of the same mistakes, they'll make enough new ones on their own. Who the f*** cares if BB is taller than Jazz. If you think BB's height is all that defines then it's good you didn't write the script. He wouldn't be the underdog, just the short one.

OK. Fine. If it doesn't matter that Bumblebee was the shortest of them all (by a lot) then it doesn't matter if Optimus Prime is shorter than him in the movie. Is that funny? Why? Like YOU SAID, it doesn't matter.... as long as Optimus is powerful (he can be supershort and stil be superpowerful can't he?) and his personality is intact. Who cares?

- Jazz is 13 feet tall in the movie (that was Bumblebee's former height classically). What does that mean? It means, for instance, that he can fit in my apartment....
- Bumblebee is now 17 feet tall. He can't.

As for the alt-modes... if you don't see the switcharoo there, there's not much I can say more. The whole thing is almost a parody.

 

[Hotwire]

OK. Fine. If it doesn't matter that Bumblebee was the shortest of them all (by a lot) then it doesn't matter if Optimus Prime is shorter than him in the movie. Is that funny? Why? Like YOU SAID, it doesn't matter.... as long as Optimus is powerful (he can be supershort and stil be superpowerful can't he?) and his personality is intact. Who cares?

- Jazz is 13 feet tall in the movie (that was Bumblebee's former height classically). What does that mean? It means, for instance, that he can fit in my apartment....
- Bumblebee is now 17 feet tall. He can't.

As for the alt-modes... if you don't see the switcharoo there, there's not much I can say more. The whole thing is almost a parody.

Well, I geuss we should all just boycot this movie. They've obivously decided that, even though Jazz is shorter than Bumbebee, he has a lower rank, can't kick as much ass, and definitely has to be an underdog since short people are always the underdog.

 

[Jimmy, GL]

Well, I geuss we should all just boycot this movie. They've obivously decided that, even though Jazz is shorter than Bumbebee, he has a lower rank, can't kick as much ass, and definitely has to be an underdog since short people are always the underdog.

Wat you talkin' 'bout Mal'Akai?