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Arrow This real guy's better then green arrow

Not denying that what this guy has done is impressive. However, it's simply a form of trick shooting. Any claims to historical accuracy is highly suspect by virtue of the claim that this style is a 'forgotten' style - meaning, there is no way to verify the accuracy beyond the guy's claim and is not supported by primary sources of the era. The claim that drawings from the era depict half-drawn bows is proof doesn't work since if those drawings are completely accurate and reliable, they would have included having the archer hold arrows in his hand much like Mr Andersen.

Moreover, the idea that archery was "forgotten" for a period of time is also untrue. For starters, Mongols and various other nomadic tribes have continued using bows as part of their daily lives uninterrupted for centuries. In addition, there are records of the use of the bow as a weapon in warfare as late as World War II.

Lastly, the effectiveness of this arrow-in-the-hand technique in actual warfare is also questionable. For starters, the touted high rate of fire. Sure, he can shoot those ten or so arrows pretty quickly. But what happens once he runs out? The position of the arrows in his shooting hand looks very cumbersome and appear like they may require time to be positioned correctly. Meaning, any time saved by this technique could potentially be lost while reloading.

Moreover, how long can he sustain that rate of fire? Battles last hours. Would he be able to shoot like that continuously for that long? The main limiting factor for an archer's rate of fire were the number of arrows supplied to him and his muscles tiring out.

Lastly, the distance he shot - with the target in front of him and the arrow flying directly at it in a close to straight line -is pitiful compared to the actual distances medieval archers had to shoot. Remember, archers were placed behind the cavalry and swordsmen. Meaning, the archer has to shoot past the rest of the army in front of him, the gap between the two armies and into the enemy's army. Alternatively, they would be trying to flank the enemy forces and sniping at them from the surrounding hills. Either way, the range required is much, much longer than what he obtained.
Yeah, I agree. One, it is questionable whether anybody really forgot the "arrow-in-the-hand" technique or if it is just unnecessary for anything but trick-shooting. Two, this style would be most useful for short distances against multiple opponents--hitting a target far off would require a fuller bow-pull and much more arc than he is using in this video.

Anyway, he's still quite impressive and accurate.
I feel like this would be a good strategy for defence. You have a line of archers defending from within the walls surrounding a city, and two or three other lines ready to shoot while the other's reload.
At least it establishes some plausibility for Oliver being able to master archery during the span of time he was on the island.
Apart from all the other things people have pointed out about the inaccuracies or exaggerations in that video, I'm really bugged by the fact that the OP says this is way better than what Arrow does, yet there's one simple problem with that guys method...

How are you going to hold all those arrows while you're running, jumping, and otherwise not in combat? What about when you're set upon by surprise and can't get the five arrows in hand? Then this method will be completely useless. Not to mention the fact that Queen has to use his bow and mixed martial arts skills alternatively. Shoot, then close quarters combat with a guy, shoot some more, roll to avoid an axe. The archer in the video would never be able to hold onto his arrows while doing the stuff Queen has to do.

So while the method itself, in it's original context, is rather impressive... for sport or carefully planned military campaigns in the 16th century, to compare it to what a modern vigilante using a bow and arrow needs to be able to do is rather silly.

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