Arrow Too many "heroes" now?

[Deltron3030]

I watch this show mainly to see Green Arrow go up against the villains. Are they ruining the show with a good percentage of the cast a vigilante/hero? It seems like if you aren't a cop you're a superhero or working for one.

I'm content with Green Arrow, Red Arrow and Diggle as the main heroes, but now we're getting another Black Canary, and soon Atom. This show needs to focus more on Arrow or are they just running out of ideas? I mean the show is called Arrow, not Arrow and friends.

This is by far my favorite TV show currently but it's losing steam with all these good guys now.

 

[zenith16]

I really wouldn 't worry about this . lol I happy you didn't do this when small ville did this with adding green arrow. they didn't take away from it still being clark kent superman's show . that was about the people city taking the arrows example defending their home i his absence . nothing more.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Green Arrow supporting character are just as important for his journey......their own journey are all connected to Oliver so yes they are important......they will still focus on the main character but it will get boring if focus him 100% you got to developed other characters

 

[Daltonio]

It seems we're in the minority but I agree with you.

I keep hearing it being referred to as them 'making their own Justice League for TV' and I really don't like that. I'm here to watch Arrow - not the Justice League.

As much as I like Laurel and some of the other characters, I do sometimes find myself missing the old simple days of just Oliver, Diggle, & Felicity.

 

[zenith16]

thing's change to help evolve the story, it's just a matter of execution. it's still his show, he still calls the shots. it's just good for him to know if he falls They will fallow his lead.

He inspired the city in a way.

 

[Micromind]

Urmm.. Black Canary and Red Arrow characters are a part of Green Arrow's stories...how can they leave them out ?


Flash and Atom are not needed.. but they are not regular "team" members either.

 

[chamber-music]

Atom isn't going to be a long term character on this show by the sounds of things as they want to keep Arrow more grounded.

Atom will either get his own show or be a semi recurring character on the Flash. Also Palmer hasn't done any superhero stuff yet so I don't feel there is much to complain about.

The show runners have said since day one that Black Canary will be a part of the show which is why we have the whole Lance family. Black Canary is a big part of Green Arrow's mythos.

Red Arrow/Arsenal is Oliver's sidekick and apprentice. Diggle is Oliver's friend, advisor and military contact. They serve a solid purpose on the show.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Exactly like others have said, Arsenal and Black Canary are key parts of the "Arrow-family", they're not going anywhere. Ray/Atom and Wildcat are just side characters. But personally, I'm just fine with Oliver getting less screen time, as he's one of my lest favorite parts of the show.

 

[Boy Scout]

I feel like I would find the show a bit crowded if I was a more casual viewer.

 

[The Shape]

I feel like I would find the show a bit crowded if I was a more casual viewer.

Completely agreed.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

I disagree. If Flash were a regular, then yeah, but even Atom probably won't be consistently on the show, helping. So it's basically Arrow, Arsenal, and Black Canary, with Diggle and Felicity providing backup. It's the same dynamic Batman, Robin, and Batgirl would have, really. No big deal.

 

[JOE]

If they keep the Flash cameos to one a season, they're fine. The more and more they keep adding will crowd the show though. What they have right now is pretty full, with the assumption ATOM will be assisting from time to time.

I find Arsenal and Black Canary fairly useless, I liked it better when it was Diggle, Smoak and Oliver, but to each their own.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, the show does feel a bit crowded right now. I liked Ray Palmer at first, but lately he's just been getting annoying. I guess I just don't find the Atom that interesting, and while they're trying to make him basically like a male version of Felicity, Routh isn't nearly as charming as Emily Bett Rickards.

 

[SpideyVille]

I don't see what the problem is, they essentially have all of the heroes from the comics, and from what I remember from the Legend of the Emerald Archer feature from Smallville, one of the things that they talked about was how important family was to Oliver, and how he was very close to Dinah, Roy and Mia.

If anything, I see Diggle being the next one to leave, since Felicity has been proven to be his Oracle, and Diggle is mostly just muscle and backup that he may not need anymore.

 

[Justin]

Yeah, the show does feel a bit crowded right now. I liked Ray Palmer at first, but lately he's just been getting annoying. I guess I just don't find the Atom that interesting, and while they're trying to make him basically like a male version of Felicity, Routh isn't nearly as charming as Emily Bett Rickards.

As a completely straight male I disagree. Aside from her cameo in the flash or the moments where she is with Routh, Felicity hasn't been charming since midway season two.

In fact, the moment the writers started catering to the fans who wanted to see Ollie hook up with the quirky, cute, genuinely funny IT girl, she stopped being that character and became just another emo mopey female CW stereotype.

Routh is a breath of fresh air to the show. Everytime he's on screen I can't help but smile. Felicity? Meh, i think maybe it's time they moved her on.

 

[Human Torch]

Black Canary & Arsenal are part of the Arrow-Family in the comics,so they are well at home in the show. The Atom (who isn't even going to be the Atom on this show) is just a guest character- probably for this season only. The Flash is probably going to cross over every season or so,but it's not really too big a deal.

 

[SpideyVille]

I think it's also important to note, Arrow was used to launch the Flash show, and now both shows are contributing to do the same for Atom. If DC is thinking about giving some spotlight to any new heroes, they have 2-3 shows to do it, so at the very least, the only other person we should see suiting up on Arrow will be Thea.

 

[haephestus]

I'm not too worried.

I don't think Atom will be a permanent "superhero" addition. He'll either be spun-off to his own show or they'll come up with some reason for him to move to another city to be their hero with guest appearances on Arrow and The Flash from time to time.

I do think they need to clarify Diggle's role, especially with Black Canary now an active vigilante. I think it would make sense for Diggle to help Felicity with her responsibilities, especially now that he has a baby daughter. I know it was raised in the earlier episodes, but it makes sense for him to avoid placing himself in danger. Of course, the fact that Felicity seems to be awesome at everything makes it hard to find a role for Diggle back in the Arrow Cave/Quiver/Verdant Flooded Basement.

I'm also hopeful that Red Arrow and Black Canary will frequently be sent off-screen on various missions. That has happened a lot with Roy being sent off to follow someone or gather information, either in plain clothes or costume. I would guess that Laurel will soon reach a breaking point as well. Laurel has an incredibly high pressure job and if she's going to perform, then there will be times when she has to work long hours. Laurel is also going to have to take the time to train and recover from injuries suffered in the course of training. Realistically, that doesn't leave much time for action as Black Canary.

Oliver can do it all because he doesn't have a "day job", even though he is meant to be broke. Roy seems to work very few hours as Assistant Manager at Verdant, so he can manage it as well. And Felicity seems to be a powerhouse and basically works two jobs (with Palmer and with Arrow) nearly 24/7, but she does so from the comfort of a computer screen. It's not plausible for Laurel to continue working as the District Attorney (or is she the ADA) and do long hours at night as the Black Canary. Once Oliver is back on the scene, I'm guessing that her vigilantism may be reduced.

 

[Bathead]

I have no problem with it. the more the merrier, I say.

 

[Frodo]

It seems we're in the minority but I agree with you.

I keep hearing it being referred to as them 'making their own Justice League for TV' and I really don't like that. I'm here to watch Arrow - not the Justice League.

As much as I like Laurel and some of the other characters, I do sometimes find myself missing the old simple days of just Oliver, Diggle, & Felicity.

I agree with you. I think the problem is that once you start adding more heroes and ninjas, comicbook fan favorites, etc , the original grounded, gritty, and self contained aspect of the series, which made it a success , begins to fade. Oliver is no longer unique because he becomes just another ninja in a city in which all the main characters have ninja skills and training.

Yes , shows do evolve but the writers have to remember what it is that attracted audiences to the show and what made it unique. Now I don't mind having 5 heroes and fantastical stuff in The Flash because that character's story lends its self to more of place were you have several superpowered people.

 

[Human Torch]

I think they showed that Oliver is always going to be essential to the team. I mean, they might be able to get some things done without him,but he's still the drive behind the team.

 

[SpideyVille]

But now this is the whole discussion with Batman and his villains, something that Gotham is trying to switch up. The argument has always been that Batman dresses up to fight crimes and that forces villains to follow suit. Escalation.

 

[trd84]

There's not enough regular people to balance it out. Everyone is a hero/villain and can fight. We used to have Thea, Laural, Moria, Tommy, Walter and Felicity was just a regular IT girl. Now everyone is a bad ass or part of the team and it has lost its grounded feel to it.

 

[zenith16]

captain Lance will never suit up . lyla won't,

Diggle may be should cause I don't want him in the field if cause that leads to his kid being killed other wise or be in constant threat unless he does .

More so of that bad gag of them alway's having their backs to the main door of the arrow lair to be surprised by the villain of the week found the lair & broke that lame touch tone phone lock of theirs that they refuse remember to replace even now that Thea is making them money to live at all .

The more Diggle is noticed by the villain of the week that he hangs with the arrow the more of those people that want revenge will ether keep finding the arrow lair or if someone like brick come again knock's diggle out and a random cop find's Diggle maskless at the scene ...

which is way worse then those people fan base wise that don't him back at the lair watching it all. that ca oly o so far sorry that's let realist the the claim show like to push or what people here keep referring to .

oh and about that part with Thea hmm I don't think she should, well not often she has a club to run. It's Ollie's only source of income cause the writers were terrible with the "Oliver's is poor stores" it really wasn't thought for the show sorry to say way too all over the place. I'm happy that's over don't want them to go back if that's the case with the writers.

 

[Daltonio]

There's not enough regular people to balance it out. Everyone is a hero/villain and can fight. We used to have Thea, Laural, Moria, Tommy, Walter and Felicity was just a regular IT girl. Now everyone is a bad ass or part of the team and it has lost its grounded feel to it.

I never really thought about it in those terms, but that's actually a really good point. We really have almost no characters anymore who aren't a part of the team in some way or another.