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I don't think it would be valid for the earthquake since the earth quake was reported as being from a fault line. The show made the effort to show the Hand was controlling the story. What the audience knows is different from what people outside of the story know.Usually the "where was X during X" question is like a pesky fly but there have been two times that I felt it was truly valid during the MCU so far.
The first time was when the President was held hostage during Iron Man 3 and no one from SHIELD or Captain America was ever mentioned. The second time was during The Defenders when an "earthquake" occured and scientists were talking about the epicenter being a few hundred feet underground a few blocks away from Stark Tower. Just found it very unbelievable that no one from The Avengers would look into that.
Maybe it's better to think of it with real-world analogies. Like, the NYPD would tackle street-level crime, right? Not the army or the CIA. Sure, maybe the FBI would get involved, but it's unlikely that it would extend beyond that.
So, in the MCU, the Avengers are the army, S.H.I.E.L.D. are the CIA, and the Defenders are the police. The Avengers are busy globe-trotting and stopping global threat (alien invasions and so forth), S.H.I.E.L.D. are always one day away from crumbling apart from within these days (maybe, pre-Avengers, they would have gotten involved in the Netflix-level stuff but not now when they're always busy rounding up Inhumans or trying to not be disbanded...again), so it's up to the Defenders to take care of business in their own little corner.
It's not even that hard to believe; Spider-Man didn't run into the Avengers every single issue and the cross-over between all the many, many New York superheroes wasn't that common. They're all doing their own thing and, often, there's some overlap. Like, people moaned and *****ed about the lack of the Avengers in Iron man 3, Thor: The Dark World, and Captain America: The Winter Soldier but, when you watch those movies, it's pretty clear that the events from all three overlap with each other to explain why each character is kind of busy with their own stuff and can't just dash over to London at the drop of a hat.
While I don't necessarily like how the television stuff is never referenced in the movies, it's not that unbelievable that they're still all connected. Also, while it would be nice to see the Avengers tower, is it really that big a deal? I never found myself really looking out for it; being a Brit I just assumed that you can't see it from where they are in the series. It's not that uncommon; if I remember right, there's a scene in Spider-Man where Peter's sat on top of a building and, in the commentary, Sam Raimi talks about how they mashed together he skyline to create an impossible panoramic view for the audience. Or, how about the trains in Spider-Man 2; those aren't in new York but I don't recall anyone flipped out too hard over that.
I completely agree. Spider-man Homecoming does a great job at demonstrating the different jurisdictions (for lack of a better word) for these characters. He literally comes across people selling and using weapons made from alien technology and Iron Man does assemble the Avengers but notifies the FBI. Not every little incident catches the attention of Avengers, sometimes there are forces keeping them and others in the dark, or maybe they were busy doing something else.
During Iron Man 3 The Avengers were only a worst case scenario for SHIELD to call upon so the members were all scattered. Still we know AIM had influence with higher level officials at the government, we can also assume that maybe Hydra would want AIM to succeed not only to acquire the Extremist formula but the death of the President at the hands of a terrorist organization would only increase support for Project Insight. Banner probably though the Hulk would not be useful and Cap, Nat, and Clint could have all been on a mission. Similar for Thor 2 except the crisis only lasted so long, we know SHIELD was present for the clean up and we can guess that mobilizing takes a little wild so they could have shown up after the crisis was over. Also Tony had blown up his armor and had heart surgery which would require some recovery time.
Between Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron we Know the Avengers had officially reassembled and been going after Hydra after Age of Ultron CW indicated they were focusing on international terrorists like Crossbones. So we can assume they've been busy with either their own missions or training. Plus even heroes need vacation time. The point is it's implied they're busy and proactive. And after the Accords we can surmise that the Avengers cannot act unless it's an emergency or have the council's approval.
Now we don't know how the timeline matches up for the netflix shows, all we know for sure is that it starts sometime after the first Avengers movie. But throughout we can assume that some of it takes place before the Avengers were reassembled and doing their own things, and when they were assemble but having a busy schedule. Still neflix does a great job telling stories that wouldn't call for the Avengers to show up as most of it happens in the shadows:
In Daredevil - Gang violence and some bombings aren't big enough to require Avengers to investigate, that's a matter for the NYPD and FBI
Jessica Jones - The bulk of the show is just trying to prove a mind controller exists and highlights how difficult it is. There's probably millions of tips in this universe that gets ignored by people over reacting. Avengers would not take notice of it.
Luke Cage - Okay this is one of the few times I will say that Avengers should have been called in. When a super human is suspected of multiple murders and had assaulted officers while resisting arrest it's time to call in at least one of the Avengers (or SHIELD if it takes place before WS) to help in apprehension. The story line happens over a period of days so you couldn't quite justify that were on a mission for that long. They could have said the NYPD wanted to prove themselves effective or didn't want the Avengers to wreck the neighborhood (as Hulk had done). But they didn't indicate that so...
Iron Fist - The whole plot unfolds in the shadows, the only thing public was Danny evading police after being implication in a drug trafficking operation. No need for Avengers.
The Defenders - Earthquake did some damage but nothing earth shattering, would have been nice to hear report of Avengers helping during the quake and recovery.
The Punisher - Gang violence, matter for the FBI and Police (also CIA but that's covert and the Avengers wouldn't know about it)
Now the ABC series (AoS and Inhumans) don't do a great job about keeping it in the shadows even though both are suppose to be dealing with hidden organizations. The season 3 finale of AoS in particular was a "CALL THE AVENGERS!" kind of moment. Still they are a Non-official covert agency who don't have the authority to call in the Avengers only feed them info through back channels.
Inhumans suck.
For why the movies don't reference the shows, aside from them not being aware of everything going on, is scheduling. By the time a movie has wrapped production and entered post production a show could have just started pre-production, not to mention they are created by two entirely different departments. Trying to reference something that hasn't been created yet is pretty tough. Plus movies have much more limited screen time and you have to consider why would a character mention Luke Cage in this scene? What does saying Inhumans do for the themes of this movie. Would it go over too many people's heads? Is it worth devoting screen time to?
And also We don't know when The defenders takes place in the MCU all of their shows (even some future seasons) could have occurred before Civil War, meaning the movies can't reference stuff that not only just begun production but hasn't even thought of yet.
Personally I'm really glad most of these shows and movies are focused on building their own stories than relying solely on references and easter eggs.