Thor vs donald blake?????

[bossman550]

well this forum will b closed. cuz donald blake unfortantly (i kno thats spelt wrong) will not be in thor movie

 

[TheCorpulent1]

According to...?

 

[Canis Sapiens]

Kevin Feige himself, in that UGO article that was taken down:

Q: Is Donald Blake going to be in the story and is he still going to be handicapped?

Feige: No.

 

[[A]]

Yup, read about it this morning. Blake is not gonna be in it.

 

[alexdunn]

Doesn't mean he won't be in the Avengers. Thor will take place completely in Asgard. But Averngers will be on Earth...which means Blake.

 

[Chewy]

Thor will take place completely in Asgard.

No it won't

 

[alexdunn]

No it won't

Oh...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm, no Blake after all. Assuming Feige wasn't being sly and referring to the handicapped question, anyway. I'm not gonna miss him or anything, but I'm kind of curious how they're gonna bridge the Thor and Avengers movies together if Thor doesn't wind up in his human form in the present at the end of his own movie.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I don't know what substitue we are getting for Blake... is there anything else from the comics that would work? I am sure they have something, but this is rather suprising.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Thor was put in the form of Siegfried and Siegmund from the Nibelung Saga before he was banished as Blake. Maybe they're going to bring him to Earth in the distant past as one of those earlier forms. Or they could use Jake Olson or Eric Masterson.

 

[protocida]

Maybe Odin banishes Thor to Earth in his God form, but with amnesia?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not a great way to learn humility, I would think...

 

[protocida]

Maybe they use the Ultimate version, where his powers come from the hammer? He is send here without it, and becomes mortal?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I very, very, very much hope not.

 

[Canis Sapiens]

Maybe he is sent here with all his memories, but none of his powers. Then people think he's a crazy dude claiming he's the God of Thunder and put him in an Asylum or something that incapacitates him for a while. Then comes that part on the summary of the plot: "Once here, Thor learns what it takes to be a true hero when the most dangerous villain of his world sends the darkest forces of Asgard to invade Earth."

But of course, I've been wrong before...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Geez, people are really intent on painting Thor as a crazy person. I guess that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I wouldn't particularly want to see it.

 

[Canis Sapiens]

I'm not saying that's what I'd like to see, but "he-must-be-crazy" powerless Thor would kind of make sense to me if they're making an amalgam of 616 and Ultimate Thor (as they did with Iron Man and Hulk). People doubting Thor's sanity is a big part of the Ultimate version, and since we won't have Blake...

 

[Anubis]

Eh, I think it could work. Just as long as we don't have to sit though a lot of Thor whining about how his All-Father could forsake him.

 

[Canis Sapiens]

If they preserve the way Thor reacts to things just as it was in the 1st draft, he won't be a whiner. He handles it all with a lot of bravery and dignity.Like, to show that he doesn't depend solely on his powers to be a true god.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not saying that's what I'd like to see, but "he-must-be-crazy" powerless Thor would kind of make sense to me if they're making an amalgam of 616 and Ultimate Thor (as they did with Iron Man and Hulk). People doubting Thor's sanity is a big part of the Ultimate version, and since we won't have Blake...

What Ultimate elements were in Hulk and Iron Man? Iron Man especially seemed all 616-eriffic to me.

 

[Anubis]

The Super Soldier Program was fit into the Incredible Hulk. What Banner was working on was a way to make a modern day Super Soldier, but he didn't know that at the time.

 

[Canis Sapiens]

What Ultimate elements were in Hulk and Iron Man? Iron Man especially seemed all 616-eriffic to me.

In Hulk, the fact that Hulk himself was a side effect of Banner trying to emulate Cap's super soldier serum. That scene with Bruce falling from the helicopter, too.

In Iron Man, apart from Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, the fact that everybody knows Stark is Iron Man right from the start. They even hint at 616 when the Shield guy wants Tony to tell the press Iron Man is his body guard.

Not exactly amalgam, I see, but you can spot some bits of the Ultimate-verse here and there...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, if Thor gets such tiny Ultimate elements, I wouldn't really mind. The vast majority of what I saw in the Hulk and Iron Man movies was true to the 616 versions, which is part of why I enjoyed them so much.

 

[Canis Sapiens]

Yeah, I really, really think (and hope) Thor's gonna be mostly 616 too.

People involved in the movie are always talking about Simonson and Kirby as main influences (although that writer talked about the Ultimates vol. 2's final battle last week).

But reading some forums and stuff I noticed that people doubting Thor's godly nature (and maybe his sanity, until he displays his powers) is an ultimate concept that the majority of fans accepted.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, people doubted his godly nature in the 616 universe too, but it wasn't taken to the extremes that the Ultimate universe took it to. You know, Thor was never actually locked up in a mental institution or anything in the 616-verse.